2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Apparently some hostages have been released including the woman who was taken with her two toddler daughters. No babies yet 💔 I am still hoping some of the infants survived although realistically I know it's unlikely.

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No Abigail Edan, age 3, turning 4 yrs old today (HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YOU CURSED MOTHERFUCKING KID). She's an American citizen and probably the most visible hostage from the USA. Her parents were both killed, and her older sisters survived by hiding in a closet.

Biden himself kind of hinted Abigail would be released soon, so I expected her in the first group. Bad sign.

No Emily Hand (Australian Jewish girl, age 9). Her poor devastated father was the one who thought she was dead for weeks until the burned body was identified as a different girl.

No Bibas family, Kfir (9 months at capture, youngest hostage) brother Ariel age 4 and their mother Shiri. The father is officially a hostage, but was last pictured with a bad bleeding headwound surrounded by Hamas...R.I.P.
Ariel Bibas might be one of the cutest preschoolers I've ever seen.

Ahead of the ceasefire, the IDF warned Gazans not to attempt to return to their homes in the north:
Didn't Hamas leave IEDs and booby traps everwhere in north Gaza? That's what the IDF said when they airstriked and bulldozed the whole place. Who knows, but you'd have to be an idiot to go back there.
The IDF is blowing up entire residential complexes (used by Hamas) in the areas it controls. Forty multi-story buildings were demolished in one operation in Tel Al-Hawa:
I'd bet money Israel's long term plan is to level north Gaza and never allow the Palestinians back there.
All those apartment buildings will be "damaged" until "unsafe". Oopsie!
 
I've seen a lot of circumstantial evidence. I've not seen any definitive proof of anything. The closest thing I saw to evidence of rape was a girl in sweatpants with blood all over the ass. It certainly implies rape, but isn't proof of it. The only thing I've really seen proven is shootings and kidnappings. The Israeli government and a bunch of journalists claim to have definitive proof but refuse to release it out of respect for the victims. This is a giant red flag and makes me think it's bullshit. If they want to make me look like an asshole, release the proof. A little pile of charred up bones isn't direct proof people are beheading babies.

Yes, I do want to hear about the conditions the hostages were subjected to from the actual hostages themselves. Just because those hostages were women and children doesn't make me inclined to believe the account of some government propaganda arm speaking in their stead. The Israeli government made a lot of pretty wild claims and swore they had definitive evidence of it. Just show it. If it's so bad that it justifies the indiscriminate bombing of civilians, then it's important enough for the public to see.
Your sister goes to a party in a house that's next to a prison. There's a prison break and the prisoners invade the neighborhood. Your sister claims to have been raped by prisoners and you know that in the prisoners culture, raping someone that looks like your sister is prized. In the commotion, she was not able to get a rape kit. People who don't know your sister but were at the same party testify that they saw someone matching your sisters description getting raped. Do you believe her that she got raped?

Now taking it a step further. The government says they have video evidence of your sister getting raped. If they release it, your sisters face and the worst moment in her life will be spread online for people to get off to and mock her. As her brother, would you want this to be publicized in order to show definitive proof despite the people who are willing to testify and be witnesses in the trial?
 
Some images and video from the hostage release:
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So who did these retards accidentally kill then?
Possibly no one. Unless I'm forgetting someone, all of the other hostages confirmed killed/to have died either had images of their corpse published by Hamas, or had their corpse recovered by Israeli forces. Claiming that someone specific died (whether or not they actually did) without providing evidence could just be another form of psychological warfare.

The Israeli government and a bunch of journalists claim to have definitive proof but refuse to release it out of respect for the victims. This is a giant red flag and makes me think it's bullshit. If they want to make me look like an asshole, release the proof.
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Yes, I do want to hear about the conditions the hostages were subjected to from the actual hostages themselves.
How is this a red flag? I'm not sure why this has to be explained, but the victims were actual, real-life people with actual, real-life surviving family members and friends who would no doubt be horrified (as all normal people would be) by the thought of videos of their loved ones getting raped being circulated, especially knowing that the main audience of these videos will inevitably be
-Sociopaths for whom no evidence will ever be enough, who will use them to manufacture conspiracy theories about how they're fake, in order to soothe the discomfort of their cognitive dissonance having to confront the fact that not all "PoCs" are inherently good, virtuous, non-violent people; and
-Garden-variety freaks who get off on gore and/or seeing women victimized, who will just use it to literally jerk off to.

Something else to keep in mind is that many of the returned hostages have family still being held by Hamas, so anything they say right now about their treatment in captivity should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
Some images and video from the hostage release:
The young people look very healthy. The mother of the girl is wearing some sort of medical drape, but maybe she was kidnapped in torn clothes or something. The girl is wearing ill-fitting clothes that probably don't belong to her.

The old ladies looks stiff and dazed, but that's to be expected. They seem to all be wearing clothes that fit them and aren't Muslim shit, so were they all dressed when they were kidnapped?

I find it interesting that Hamas cleaned up the hostages for the cameras. All clothes look freshly laundered and the hostages were able to wash their hair. Some of the old ladies look like they even styled their hair a bit.

I expected them to get dragged out to trucks looking like they'd been in a hole in the ground for weeks.
Let me get this straight: The Spanish and Belgian PMs came to Rafah crossing on the Egyptian side to do a press conference in condemnation of Israel stating that this cease fire isn't enough, in the moments where we should be getting Israeli hostages released? What kind of bullshit are they trying to pull off?

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Dear Niggerfaggot Prime Ministers of Belgium and Spain:

No one has given a shit about your pathetic countries since about the year 1650. Sure Hemingway went to fight in Spain, but that was mainly for the pussy and the adventure. Belgium was just some ground important countries stomped over in World Wars.

Try developing a modern reputation for something other than chocolate, torturing bulls for sport, and/or faggotry. If you want to help people in Gaza, airdrop some chocolate and cheese or whatever you have.
Thanks.
 
These aren't wild claims. Sand niggers rape and murder for no reason at all and we know these particular savages kidnapped and murdered women, infants, the elderly and children.

This kind of pathetic grasping at rhetorical straws isn't going to convince anyone. It only makes your claims look worse.
During World War 2 there was a Free French division of sandniggers that were stationed in occupied Italy that would mass rape the women of the villages:
 
No Emily Hand (Australian Jewish girl, age 9). Her poor devastated father was the one who thought she was dead for weeks until the burned body was identified as a different girl.

I remember a few times the official hostage count went up, and the Hamas Twitter Brigade declared it proof that the Israelis were lying and inventing hostages out of thin air.

When actually it was the result of gradually sorting out body parts for DNA testing and doing scans on fused chunks of carbonized flesh, and discovering that particular house here and there was one body short.

It's fucking grim stuff.

I've seen a lot of circumstantial evidence. I've not seen any definitive proof of anything. The closest thing I saw to evidence of rape was a girl in sweatpants with blood all over the ass. It certainly implies rape, but isn't proof of it.

And if you heard hostages talking about it, you would just say that they're lying as well. Why believe the hostages when the testimony of all the other Israeli witnesses isn't good enough?

It almost makes one suspect that you have an ulterior motive for wanting to hear women/children discuss seeing or experiencing rape. There are probably some good Reddit subs for that, you don't need to look for it here.

During World War 2 there was a Free French division of sandniggers that were stationed in occupied Italy that would mass rape the women of the villages:

"Even the parish priest, Don Alberto Terrilli, in an attempt to defend two girls, was tied to a tree and raped for a whole night. He died two days later from internal lacerations reported."​

Weird that I've never heard this kind of thing mentioned any time someone brings up the "colonial troops fought in European wars!" argument.
 
Weird that I've never heard this kind of thing mentioned any time someone brings up the "colonial troops fought in European wars!" argument.
Incidents like this were the rationale for why the British never deployed colonial troops in substantial quantities in Europe, the Frenchies didn’t give a fuck tho.

Also, interesting fact, the father of famous African-American lynching victim Emmet Till was a member of the U.S. Army during WW2 and was executed for raping two Italian women.
 
DAS RITE!
I prefer the more colloquial "Hillbilly Heebs".
Mountain Jews will forever be Melinda Scott and crew.
New gold rare.
That one might be a misprint, his hand's going the wrong way! :story:
All that did was refill McDonalds meat inventory for the day.
I'm gonna be real leery if the McRib comes back all of a sudden.
I hate the fact they put the creepy music over the top of it, just let it speak for itself for fucks sake.
The backing track may have been an attempt to fudge the audio enough to try and prevent any content ID matching.
What, are they finally releasing the prismatic rare collection?
The new Hezbollah gen 2 booster packs?! Decent!
protestor gets a papercut courtesy of some crafty jew.
I'm pretty sure they stole the idea from skinheads. They used to put razors on the back of their flyers or put them up with a mix of glue and ground up lightbulbs. At least in my neck of the woods in the 90's and early 2000's.
Does this person even exist or is this more AI shit? :stress:
Nigga's got a penisthumb! :stress:
Everywhere, and always, we have crotch rocket douchebags wrecking videos. Got vid of Israel airstrikes? Let's drive our fucking ricer crotch rockets back and forth in front of the footage. "bbbrrrrraaaaaaa...."
Only one type of douche end buys a rice rocket. Doesn't matter where in the world they're from.
All these fake conservatives all have one thing in common
Yeah, no foreskin!
Biden himself kind of hinted Abigail would be released soon, so I expected her in the first group. Bad sign.
Yeah, something strikes me as odd. Weren't they quoting 50 getting released today? All the articles I've found are saying only 24 hostages got released? Was that just the first batch? Could they only wrangle up 24 people without missing limbs or eyes?
 
Yeah, something strikes me as odd. Weren't they quoting 50 getting released today? All the articles I've found are saying only 24 hostages got released? Was that just the first batch? Could they only wrangle up 24 people without missing limbs or eyes?
The 12 Thai hostages were released separate from the Israeli deal today, although they were released at the same time in the same convoy. There were no conditions to the release. Hamas was silently admitting they shouldn't have taken them in the first place.

Basically Iran was pissed that Hamas killed a handful of Thai farm workers (BRUTALLY) on video for no damn reason, then took another dozen back to Gaza. Hamas also killed 10 Nepalese students, kidnapped one Nepalese and two Bedouin Arabs and a couple Africans. Bunch of fucking retards.

As for Israeli hostages, including dual-citizens with US and Western countries, Hamas has agreed to release 50 children and civilian women in batches over either four or five days (can't remember). Today was 13 people, mainly old women and kids.

Captured IDF soldiers (men and women), plus men over age 18 aren't included in the 50 person deal. In exchange, Israel has agreed to release 150 women and teen (at time of conviction) Palestinian prisoners from prisons, and maintain the five day temporary ceasefire.
 
grasping at rhetorical straws isn't going to convince anyone
Trying to convince savages that peace is a better alternative to war is huge waste of time, and has been for millennia. Everyone on both teams is in the middle of a blood lust. Tens of thousands will die, millions will be displaced, and it will only further exacerbate regional conflicts going forward. Total extermination isn't an achievable goal for either side. Every dead Arab will radicalize 10 Islamists, and every dead Jew will radicalize 10 Zionists. Every country on the planet is forced to have an opinion, creating greater global division. Nothing of value will be gained for anyone and the world will be a little bit shittier for everyone than it was the day before. At least we'll all get our dopamine hit when "one of theirs" dies and vindication when "one of ours" does something heroic and of propagandist benefit.

It's almost like the West didn't just leave the Middle East after taking 20 years to realize it was fucking pointless.
 
I've seen a lot of circumstantial evidence. I've not seen any definitive proof of anything. The closest thing I saw to evidence of rape was a girl in sweatpants with blood all over the ass. It certainly implies rape, but isn't proof of it. The only thing I've really seen proven is shootings and kidnappings. The Israeli government and a bunch of journalists claim to have definitive proof but refuse to release it out of respect for the victims. This is a giant red flag and makes me think it's bullshit. If they want to make me look like an asshole, release the proof. A little pile of charred up bones isn't direct proof people are beheading babies.

There are some more graphic photos that appear to show murdered and raped women. The only problem is they were fact-checked as to not being from Oct 7. They were from Isis and Kurdistan. Yet official sources were claiming they were Oct 7.

While I would not be shocked if some Hamas did some rape. Even US soldiers do the rape in combat. One reason for not releasing the "proof" may very well be that they don't want the evidence fact-checked. We have seen how blatantly official sources for Israelis are willing to lie in public for their propaganda effort. Why would we expect anything different from what is done secretly behind closed doors?
 
There are some more graphic photos that appear to show murdered and raped women. The only problem is they were fact-checked as to not being from Oct 7. They were from Isis and Kurdistan. Yet official sources were claiming they were Oct 7.

Almost all of the stuff from Syria or other conflicts have come from sandnigger Twitter accounts, portraying it as being a result from the IDF bombing of Gaza, from what I've seen. When did official IDF/Israel accounts show pictures from ISIS/Kurdistan?
 
Hamas can scoop up a handful of kids, uglier mothers and the living middle-aged women. Seems like most of the old people are long dead. They'll be hard pressed to actually hand over 50 people.
This turned out to be mostly true, except a lot of the hostages were in fact elderly women. However, not a single young (read: hot) woman among them. It will be interesting to see who gets released tomorrow.
 
I've seen a lot of circumstantial evidence. I've not seen any definitive proof of anything. The closest thing I saw to evidence of rape was a girl in sweatpants with blood all over the ass. It certainly implies rape, but isn't proof of it. The only thing I've really seen proven is shootings and kidnappings. The Israeli government and a bunch of journalists claim to have definitive proof but refuse to release it out of respect for the victims. This is a giant red flag and makes me think it's bullshit. If they want to make me look like an asshole, release the proof. A little pile of charred up bones isn't direct proof people are beheading babies.

Yes, I do want to hear about the conditions the hostages were subjected to from the actual hostages themselves. Just because those hostages were women and children doesn't make me inclined to believe the account of some government propaganda arm speaking in their stead. The Israeli government made a lot of pretty wild claims and swore they had definitive evidence of it. Just show it. If it's so bad that it justifies the indiscriminate bombing of civilians, then it's important enough for the public to see.
A half-conscious Thai orderly at a nursing home beheaded with a garden hoe:

As another survivor hid under a tank, he heard terrorists talking about rape & executing the girls not attractive enough to take back to Gaza as war bounty (“Sabiya”).

So, is it ALL bullshit, or is there fire where there’s smoke? We’re not yet at the phase of societal decay where rape victims & rapists film their rapes for your Tiktok viewing pleasure.
 
While I would not be shocked if some Hamas did some rape. Even US soldiers do the rape in combat. One reason for not releasing the "proof" may very well be that they don't want the evidence fact-checked. We have seen how blatantly official sources for Israelis are willing to lie in public for their propaganda effort. Why would we expect anything different from what is done secretly behind closed doors?
I've seen a lot of circumstantial evidence. I've not seen any definitive proof of anything. The closest thing I saw to evidence of rape was a girl in sweatpants with blood all over the ass. It certainly implies rape, but isn't proof of it. The only thing I've really seen proven is shootings and kidnappings. The Israeli government and a bunch of journalists claim to have definitive proof but refuse to release it out of respect for the victims. This is a giant red flag and makes me think it's bullshit. If they want to make me look like an asshole, release the proof. A little pile of charred up bones isn't direct proof people are beheading babies.

Yes, I do want to hear about the conditions the hostages were subjected to from the actual hostages themselves. Just because those hostages were women and children doesn't make me inclined to believe the account of some government propaganda arm speaking in their stead. The Israeli government made a lot of pretty wild claims and swore they had definitive evidence of it. Just show it. If it's so bad that it justifies the indiscriminate bombing of civilians, then it's important enough for the public to see.
To add to what others have said, there is more evidence out there of rape but I'm not going to deign to provide it for your pleasure.

One video from October 7 that I can't unsee is of a woman's body, badly burned. There is a wooden handle or some tool that is protruding out of the body's pelvis.
 
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