Culture I am Gen Z. Men in my generation are not dating. Why should we?

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All across America, marriage, sexuality and relationships are on the steady decline among young people. According to a new Pew Research study, 63% percent of men aged 18 to 29 report being single. That means the number of single young men is nearly twice that of single young women, indicating a large breakdown in the social, romantic and sexual lives of American men. The big question is: Why?

One would think that making romantic connections would be easier than ever in our digital world, but the opposite is true. Our culture of convenience has paradoxically made dating more difficult for men as they are forced into a hyper-competitive, superficial environment that emphasizes instant gratification over true human connection. While there are several potential culprits causing this relationship breakdown, nothing has done more damage to the dating landscape than dating apps, social media and pornography.

Let’s start with dating apps. The advent of relationship websites started with Match.com in 1995 and evolved into the swipe-based platforms we know today with Tinder and Hinge releasing in 2012, and Bumble in 2014.

According to a survey of 6,034 adults, 53% of adults ages 18-29 have found someone to date through an app or site. However, new Census data shows that the U.S. marriage rate hit an all-time low in 2019. For every 1,000 unmarried adults, only 33 got married. This number was 35 a decade ago in 2010 and much higher at 86% in 1970. So, what gives?

It’s easier for men to date, thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.

With the abundance of choices on dating apps, young men are finding it difficult to build deeper connections with a single person due to that sense of constant availability. When a minor red flag appears in a relationship that is otherwise going smoothly, why stick around and work it out when thousands of other choices are right at your fingertips? Young men are making that calculation every day on dating apps and are siding with the latter. How can you blame them with the constant programming coming from social media?

With social media today, men can scroll through their feeds and popular pages to view more beautiful women in one sitting than most men would see in their lifetime a hundred years ago.
Social media vies for people's attention leading women to commercialize themselves, which gives men an unrealistic expectation of the dating pool. On social media, people are encouraged to only show their best, even if it’s fake! With the advancements in facial-recognition technology, many times men are looking at women through heavily filtered and airbrushed lenses.

While women reap the benefit of the online attention, men are left wondering how the dating pool has gotten so far out of reach. Consequently, those same women who are marketing themselves as something they’re not are left without a partner and wondering where all the good men have gone. Through social media, both sexes are conditioned to treat themselves as a number instead of embracing true human connection and partnership.

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but to me, flirting face-to-face leaves a bigger impression on the potential for a relationship than reacting to girls’ Instagram Stories with the flame emoji. Coupled with the barrage of women on dating apps, the culture of constant comparison fostered by social media makes it hard for men to commit to a relationship and settle down. If that wasn’t enough, now even men’s greatest source of dating motivation has been co-opted by pornography.

There is no doubt that lust, which is carnal in nature, is the strongest driving motivation for men when it comes to dating. It sparks initial attraction and passion and draws people together. Ultimately though, lust may fade, but the emotional connection typically built upon that initial sense of attraction is what can determine a relationship’s success.

Pornography, however, completely destroys this dynamic, because it shifts men’s reward system to simply being carnal and physical in nature but lacking the emotional connection necessary for healthy relationships. Today, pornography is easier than ever to consume. Forty million U.S. adults regularly visit pornography websites, and 10% of U.S. adults admit to having an addiction to Internet pornography.
It’s easier for men to date thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.
Research shows that about 67% of 13-year-old boys have seen at least one pornographic image on some sort of digital device in the past year, and by the age of 18, that number rises to 90%.

In porn, finding a "relationship" is effortless. With porn, this digital partner has nothing else to do but wait for you, please you and give you exactly what you think you want. If this partner ever fails to keep you entertained, they can be exchanged with a single click. Why waste your time dating, flirting and putting in effort when men can have their deepest sexual desires met online?

Today, men in their 20s are more likely than women to be romantically uninvolved, sexually dormant and friendless. Studies have shown that men are more likely to engage in risky and violent behaviors when they lack a stable relationship, leading to higher crime rates, substance abuse and social unrest. Single men may also be less invested in building strong social networks, leading to isolation and a lack of community engagement.

Simply put, the breakdown of relationships between men and women is startling, and it is detrimental to a healthy society. The good news is that men can fix this, and the remedy is easier than we think. Leave dating apps, stop watching porn, and go talk to girls in real life.
 
They all say men their age are like 12 year old boys. All still live at home, play video games all day, get stoned and have zero drive.
This also means you can't be a piece of shit living at your mothers/brothers/boys house. You need to have a drive and goals.
Guess what? This requires an economy that isn't obviously a scam, an economy in which a man's meagre savings won't be obliterated by the next once-in-a-lifetime financial disaster.
 
Women should ask out men if they want a quality guy. They would be far more successful than the other way around. Men get virtually no compliments from women, especially on their attractiveness, so if a woman does ask out a man, that's a massive compliment to him, and he is probably really going to appreciate that and like her for it. I know I would.
I hope one day you realize how pathetic and stupid the statement you posted here is.
 
Foreveralone middle-aged male cat ladies are just as miserable and awful as foreveralone middle aged female cat ladies, as Gen Z is going to discover in 20 years
I'm curious to see what doomer incels are going to be like in 20 years, assuming they haven't killed themselves by then. They've spent a good few years smugly posting about a collapse that's never happened.
 
Never been so happy to be an old, married fuck. To be fair to this generation, dating wasn't much better in the 90's. But, at least we left the house, and there were more places to socialize than the sad locals bar.
Late but I don't think dating has ever been perfect and frankly that's just life. My problem as a younger millenial is that this is more than just "life kinda sucks". This is a genuine crisis in terms of how the two sexes relate to one another and the continuation of culture and of civilization.

Also, even if you didn't get a date in the past, at the very least like you said, you would leave your house and have a good time either with friends or have a nice conversation. Social spaces like that just don't exist anymore really and that was happening for awhile before COVID. Shit has only gotten exponentially more dire.

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I don't see how this is a threat to worry about.
I've tried to explain in depth elsewhere just how much of an achille's heel this is but the TL;DR is that if you had this same problem in say, a medieval village of ~2,000 people, the local fuedal lord would be screaming at his advisors to fucking fix it immediately with whatever amounts they'd have to drag out of the treasury. In a society as complex and populous as the U.S. let alone the west in its entirety, we're going to see some serious shit as a result of this in the next few years revolving around having a severe lack of people to begin with let alone compounded by the competency crisis, meaning that of those left there will be a shrinking number of which who are even suitable for any job more complex than toilet scrubbing.
Look up police response times in your area sometime, if you can. Note it down, check again a year later.

Shortages of firefighters, doctors, nurses, teachers, airline pilots, skilled and unskilled laborers as well are going on right now and getting worse by the month/year. A lot of shit is going down the drain and will continue to get worse as culture decays. The replacement rate tanking ever downward effects everything in society as well, given that all of the professions that make society work both need an amount of staff proportional to the demand, and that there's only a certain percentage of people who are ever interested in any of these keystone careers.

Not going to bother explaining the taxation/government services side of this equation as I've talked about it ad nauseam to the point I'm sick of explaining it. The ongoing competency crisis ties directly into this and effectively acts as a multiplier on top of this already dire issue.

Sure, you don't feel affected perhaps right now, but once it hits a certain threshold QoL will drop precipitously. For everyone.

And no, for the record, anyone incel or no who's fucking smug about this happening is as retarded as anyone who earnestly believes it's not a problem nor a concern.
 
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Women are so utterly solipsistic today they are incapable of experiencing gratitude for what men do to create the stability they crave.
This is how they end up leaving because "he doesn't give me enough attention" (e.g. every second of his waking hours).


LOL all these years you guys laughed at me and called me a faggot well WHOS THE FAGGOT NOW?! wait still me? damn.... but you gotta deal with women LOL


I really would like an actual woman who insists the problems with dating and marriage today are wholly men's fault believes that men in 1890 were simply much better marriage material then the men of today. After all, nearly all those men got married and had kids.

Would she rather be an 1890 man's wife?

Does she, deep in her heart, find the kinds men who wouldn't let her kind have any power over them more attractive than the weak men of post-feminism America?

Because of course she does. There's a reason the most broken sluts on the dating apps want a man to choke them and slap them around during sex. There's a reason in the BDSM world, the women are nearly always "subs" looking for a man to completely control them. There's a reason murderers get love letters. Women are attracted to power & status. They're not attracted to equality & submission. You want a woman's vagina to shrivel up and die in your presence? Ask her for permission to do something.

You know, like we do every four years in the voting booth.



look up the movie "dog day afternoon" the guy robs a bank to get his boyfriend a sex change to gf, and she fuckin leaves him. even when born guys these hoes arent loyal!!!
 
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Agree 100% I think it's 4-6 different articles all compiled together. Too long but relevant and accurate to my eyes.
Don't get me wrong. This is great
Cope is confused with causation. Porn numbs men from romantic failure. But porn is blamed for their loneliness. Opioids numb men from unemployment. But drugs are blamed for the deindustrialization of small towns. Underemployed NEETs and Incels must “respect women”. Abandoned Americans must “Learn to Code”.

Impractical advice is given to globalism’s economic victims, as a pretext for elites to ignore their suffering — and continue offloading externalities. None of this advice is sincere, or useful. Young American men have been emasculated by convergent macroeconomic trends (specifically inflation, automation, mass immigration, the Cantillon effect, petrodollar hegemony — Triffin’s dilemma, global labor arbitrage, and deindustrialization).

Eventually, repeating this strategy dipped into diminishing returns. The imperial economy began to devour itself.

GloboHomo remains addicted to expansion. The bestial demands of empire are relentless… and merciless.
but this after paragraphs and images stacked on top of each other
The beautiful theory of Meritocracy (government by the best, brightest, kindest), when applied, has been sociopathic.

The flipside of this aspirational logic is obvious (in hindsight).

If anyone can be a winner, hard work is always rewarded, and you always get what you deserve, then losers deserve to lose. Suffering is earned. Poverty is justice. Failure is a form of karmic retribution, perhaps for laziness, or a cowardly aversion to risk-taking.

ZeroHPLovecraft explains in his book review of Sadly, Porn:

“There’s a trap where if you play the victim, you’re a loser, and if you make an honest accounting of your grievances with “the system”, you’re “playing the victim,” so you’re never allowed to complain. That’s why it takes someone like Donald Trump, someone who everyone knows isn’t a loser, who has wealth, women, fame, and property, to stand up and talk about these things. Even then they try to paint him as a loser…”
This attitude creates a lack of curiosity among transnational, managerial decisionmakers. Personal incompetence is never separated from aggregate, communal stagnation.
all it needs is to be cut up or at the very least reorganized: this is an article/internet page not a book
 
I wonder what happens to a lot of these mismatches in 5-10 years.
I agree with your post. Additionally these women have a bad case of FOMO and as their man loses his hair, gets more gray, balls get saggier, etc. while these zoomer girls are in their 30s and want to ~find themselves~. She’s going to want to still feel tingles and live her life as the main character in her own movie while he just wants to relax for his final few hours of the day. I will be real surprised if these big age gap relationships hold up over the course of several years. I’m going to guess that not playing video games isn’t as big of a deal if he just wants to rest for the day instead of going out into the late hours. He’s going to have to keep the relationship fresh and exciting for the rest of their lives if they get married and in many instances that still is not going to be enough. Good for him if he can keep the interest going in the long term but I suspect most won’t be able to.
 
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