Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

[Shidoen]

This is like telling a man to stick a gun in his mouth.

But it's a hell of a lot of fun.

 

[Love Machine]

The problems with ideas of the "female tell all" or "Dudes let girls what they actually want" is that the general populace can't articulate or don't even know what they actually want. Then they just end up giving advice that sounds good, but can be ultimately more detrimental.

Telling a man to be "open about his emotions" is telling him to play Russian roulette. Especially a man who doesn't know better will be particularly negatively impacted. Most woman don't even know what a man actually opening up looks like, it's not good or pretty. It's something that a dude does when he is at the point of getting ready to marry something IF you're lucky. Hell he might be married for years before it happens. This is not to say a man should be stoic, but he shouldn't be opening up to his lady. The place for that is among close male friends that can truly empathize. The fact that close masculine bonds has been labeled "le gay dey fuckin" is a major reason why men are so emotionally constipated now. If a woman EVER takes what man shares with her in confidence and throws it in his face in a dumb spat or something. That's it, he is done. Buddy is never truly gonna open up again, or if he does it will be literal years.

Advice like "hey boy, here is how you get easy poon" isn't good. Just because being a whore isn't seen as bad for men doesn't mean it's good. It's soul poision to be whore regardless of gender. Dudes don't get real ego boosts from just fucking woman. It's not much more different to jerking to porn. It's a cope. It's only an ego boost when he fucks someone that truly has self respect, or someone he can respect. The only way he will ever be able to do that is getting some self respect. The worst thing for him is fucking some blown out wine mom he dragged from the bar.

This isn't to shit on woman trying to give advice, but I just find some of the most common stuff said to be completely silly and harmful. I'm sure if guys gave dating advice to woman there would be lots of retarded shit too.

But it's a hell of a lot of fun.

So is eating potato chips, doesn't make it good for you.

 

[macrodegenerate]

To you guys reading this; what can we as women do to ensure that you continue to know and realize the worth you have?

Nothing, you are incapable of solving this issue. Because like all issues which plague and lead to the downfall of societies, its origin is purely economic. A person's potential is significantly tied to their resources. Men hold themselves to different standards than women irregardless of their potential. The issue is that the potential of a significant number of men has decreased as their access to resources has. This is due to the increasing size of the wealth gap. Men refuse to lower the standards for themselves which they were instilled with by their parents. Parents who always had more potential to meet those standards than their children. A phoenoma only present in a nation in decline.

 

[dick brain]

Telling a man to be "open about his emotions" is telling him to play Russian roulette. Especially a man who doesn't know better will be particularly negatively impacted. Most woman don't even know what a man actually opening up looks like, it's not good or pretty. It's something that a dude does when he is at the point of getting ready to marry something IF you're lucky. Hell he might be married for years before it happens. This is not to say a man should be stoic, but he shouldn't be opening up to his lady. The place for that is among close male friends that can truly empathize. The fact that close masculine bonds has been labeled "le gay dey fuckin" is a major reason why men are so emotionally constipated now. If a woman EVER takes what man shares with her in confidence and throws it in his face in a dumb spat or something. That's it, he is done. Buddy is never truly gonna open up again, or if he does it will be literal years.

Choosing not to be vulnerable because it might hurt is cowardice. If you can't trust your partner, you shouldn't be with them. Follow your own advice and don't waste your time on people you don't respect.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

So you admit you like dudes, I knew you were gay.

Yes, I like dudes. I am girl, mane. A woman, even.

Would you dump a man if he was dying of cancer and the head cook for a multi-million dollar drug empire and was personally responsible for dozens of deaths?

Yes.

See, this is why I can't hate men. Because my sex does shit that makes me want to kick them in their throat.

Why does how you feel about one sex impact how you feel about the other?

...scratch that. This has had turned into a good thread and at least one person has heard things that have made him examine some assumptions that were wearing on him, which is a positive in my book. Nice if this can be a convo about individuals and also some generalities without becoming political, so I retract!

(But I left in my initial comment bc I'm transparent like that and also bc it's maybe a useful discussion elsewhere..but here, I am was loving some seemingly actual info-sharing.) I love when people are inspired, encouraged, or at least chewing on potentially new perspectives. Warms my Mary Poppins x Dorothy Parker heart.

head stand

Nice

But the thing is, the principles work just as well on more attractive women, just at a lower rate of success because they're more likely to have something else going on. My last monogamous relationship was the result of my intentionally using his method on a woman I was actually interested in. It's a lot easier to pivot from a sexual relationship to a romantic one than from a romantic one to a sexual one.

End game is...? If it's sex or power, that's really not been the vibe of the thread. And if you had to work a semi-con on a woman to get close to her, well, kind of sad, though glad it worked out for a time. Hope your next one is more organic and good.

Not advice anyone is looking for but I feel compelled:

Find a popular bar or venue that has B-grade live music. There will be a bunch of middle aged and older ladies on drugs dancing. After years of observing these scenes, it looks like these women are DTF. So have at it fellas.

If that's your play, they are using you as much as you are using them. Enjoy, but don't be fooled into thinking that you're getting over.

 

[Love Machine]

Nothing, you are incapable of solving this issue. Because like all issues which plague and lead to the downfall of societies, its origin is purely economic. A person's potential is significantly tied to their resources. Men hold themselves to different standards than women irregardless of their potential. The issue is that the potential of a significant number of men has decreased as their access to resources has. This is due to the increasing size of the wealth gap. Men refuse to lower the standards for themselves which they were instilled with by their parents. Parents who always had more potential to meet those standards than their children. A phoenoma only present in a nation in decline.

Kinda half way agree with this. There is still plenty of opportunity in America. Most young men don't know how to deal with adversity or properly make use of resources available to them. This is partly due to boomer gen fathers not being an adequate role model for the scenario because they for the most part had it easy. A boomer father only had to (maybe) go to college, walk in and easily get a job, and just essentially show up and they'll have enough money to provide for their family easily. It has recently shifted to if they want to be successful and get ahead, it's skilled technical labor like being a plumber, electrician, welder, nurse etc. So it takes most of a man's 20s to figure things out, that's were a lot of our generation is at now. It's sink or swim.

Choosing not to be vulnerable because it might hurt is cowardice. If you can't trust your partner, you shouldn't be with them. Follow your own advice and don't waste your time on people you don't respect.

You see, this sounds good written out but its worthless in practice. "Just find the right heckin woman" is really easy to say, but to make that happen you need to play a numbers game. Men are more guarded with their feeling because, while generally more stoic in general sense, the things that they are sensitive about, they are hyper sensitive. Exposing it is like exposing a massive weak point eyeball on a resident evil monster. It will only massively hurt them and the only recourse once the damage is done is unfortunately "toughen up".

Homo homini lupus.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

You know, better question, what's an immediate dealbreaker for most women?

Like not being able to take care of yourself, or being messy or dirty, or being a jerk or something.

-People that are dicks to service workers.
-Anyone who thinks they're owed anything for spending money (this goes both ways)
-Has high standards they themselves do not uphold by. I.e, want a fit gym bunny but are fat themselves. Or want a girl that can cook and clean and want to have a ton of children, but they themselves won't offer to help with said chores, or work, for that matter. Nevermind interacting with those children.
-this ones a little more divisive I've noticed; people who are so ridged in their thinking, that they aren't willing to accept other views. This sounds simple and reasonable enough... until you meet a hard leftie or righty and hold an opposing view point.
Lastly- people that don't take care of their own things. It's a very early indicator of either thoughtlessness or lack of care, which can transfer to themselves in some areas or to pets/partners.
If your car is a fucking mess and can't run due to your own negligence, somethins up.

 

[Mister Uno]

I don't know how to flirt

I feel you there man. During my teenage years I was a fatboi and had zero confidence that came with it, so I never bothered. I'm skinny now and confident in my looks, however I feel most women can sense the autism (not literal) on me and lose interest. Had moments where friends questioned why I didn't make a move on a women that was flirting with me, but it's because I don't notice lmao. Can't tell really without them being blantant, which almost never happens.

Cooking healthy yet tasty food is an incredibly sexy trait to have. I feel like this would solve all the world's dating problems if everyone advertised they cooked like this.

Learning to cook no matter what is always a good thing dating or no. Wish I did it sooner.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

ETA: OP, if you'd like me to make a new thread I will.

If you think you can make better write me entry i can just copy paste so we don't make double work for nothing i have zero issues to re-edit the thread

I know you're doing a shit post but this reminds me of that woman who left her husband when he was diagnosed with terminal cancer. While whining about how no one was asking how SHE was doing.

See, this is why I can't hate men. Because my sex does shit that makes me want to kick them in their throat.

Not this pick me bs again, its a ragebait so incels spread and click the article someone posted its other way around but nobody mentions it because well women aren't as agressive until recently to stomp and shout on male shittiness, i have no idea why but if someone getting abandoned is always a mother, wife and a decent human being if you are a man or insufferable narc of a woman you always get visitors i worked few months in assisted living facilities it changed my opinion forever on dating and family.

Having lived with a friend who's slept with on the order of 40 women in the last few years, I've gathered three things.

Thats actually working but is serious energy drain and i have seen where it leads to a) you eventually hit the wall the older the women are the more wise are to these tricks, your looks betray you once you are middle aged looking and single you are looked with suspicion regardless b ) you hit the wall with energy levels very few men want to spend partying all the way to their 40s your energy levels fall, your interests in partying and swiping and going to dates also falls. Its also a money pit for many so eventually your interests in retirement overtakes that one in getting pootang. Not to mention you don't learn how to keep a woman around you, so you won't get fwbs who are happy with just the d while they work through their divorce because in all honesty you will suck with fucking part, you won't get relationship because women will smell the 10 different strains of herpes and hpv on you no matter how hard you try to hide it.

Eventually it fall down to the towns bycicle there were several honest to god posts from fuckbois regretting wasting their 20s and 30s in just getting their dick wet and now they can't get into proper dating because normal mentally sane women see through their bs.

Either way choose wisely

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Okay, Ive seen most of the women here say socializing is the only way and its been pretty informative. Heres the catch and Im gonna power level a bit here

Spoiler: Power Leveling

I dont like going to public gatherings, I dont like loud noises and all the young stupid shit (drinking, lounging around, gossip (KF isnt completely gossip), hanging out at food places, window shopping etc etc), the only going outside I do is to purchase groceries or my everyday cycling regiment of 5 km. Im very strict with my diet and habits, I dont eat junk food or fast food almost ever, Im arguably a very old fashioned person in almost everything. My idea of hanging out is movies and video games, sometimes a walk in the neighborhood, little to nothing else. I also like to talk about stuff but that can be too one sided to be done actively in the presence of another, so this one is for fun text chats. Most of my hobbies are done at home and at my desk, I enjoy doing them at my desk and I have little to no desire to leave the house. Basically a shut in with some familial contact and almost nil friends cause Ive lost contact with most of them. I dont make friends with people at work cause I dont trust corporate puppets and I wfh. I dont reveal anything about myself to anybody who I suspect could be a potential point of compromise and make myself actively uninteresting/unspecial to throw people off me. Im also not funny, like intelligent funny.

What are the recommendations for me?

I've been perusing through this thread, reading the guy's chatting and it genuinely hurts my heart to see how many of you think so low of yourselves, to a point where you primarily choose to shut yourself in. -- I've looked into the post history of some you guys and you're genuinely incredibly funny and well spoken on several other topics, even pertaining to lore on lolcows.

When I was chatting with some of the guys in the shared Woman/Man hate thread, I noted that the primary issues they ran into were us women. We had killed your self-esteem or feeling of self-worth. So to flip it around for a moment if I may: To you guys reading this; what can we as women do to ensure that you continue to know and realize the worth you have?

I would be down for a ATOGA thread for men, I wouldnt have much to add to it though. Dead self esteem cause of competition in everything from primary school I guess and its very demoralizing when there are people who are extremely skilled or talented in X and achieved Y in Z time/age, even more demoralizing when its your neighbor classmate best friend or cousin.

 

[dick brain]

You see, this sounds good written out but its worthless in practice. "Just find the right heckin woman" is really easy to say, but to make that happen you need to play a numbers game. Men are more guarded with their feeling because, while generally more stoic in general sense, the things that they are sensitive about, they are hyper sensitive. Exposing it is like exposing a massive weak point eyeball on a resident evil monster. It will only massively hurt them and the only recourse once the damage is done is unfortunately "toughen up".

Homo homini lupus.

Retarded. I've lived the way you're advocating and it's pathetic. If you're carrying around something you're so vulnerable and insecure about that it's comparable to "a massive weak point", that's something you need to nut up and address. The fact that you're apparently walking through life viewing potential partners as threats you have to guard yourself against because they might cause you emotional pain -- which isn't fucking real -- should speak for itself. A mentally healthy man should be able to open up to anyone, you're just a coward with demons you're not facing. Do the work or shut up, stop trying to drag people down with you.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

What are the recommendations for me?

i have particular type of men which are akward as hell and quiet guys I am the loud one, however they always sucked with dates the easiest way to make a good date is to do something usually board games in game shops are good place, they arent that loud and everyone there are weird so it will be easy for you to entertain the person. In summer i would drag them at the beach and play with sand, Keep in mind there are many women who are ok with silence as long as you get to do something interesting that takes away the attention also list the stupid hobbies so we can give you ideas, some women are fine with baking bread, cooking , looking at mushrooms or foraging ( that can be interesting and less stressfull also) even tasting brews etc .

 

[Love Machine]

Retarded. I've lived the way you're advocating and it's pathetic. If you're carrying around something you're so vulnerable and insecure about that it's comparable to "a massive weak point", that's something you need to nut up and address. The fact that you're apparently walking through life viewing potential partners as threats you have to guard yourself against because they might cause you emotional pain -- which isn't fucking real -- should speak for itself. A mentally healthy man should be able to open up to anyone, you're just a coward with demons you're not facing. Do the work or shut up, stop trying to drag people down with you.

If you're opening up to "anyone" then you simply are naive or you actually have nothing to deal with. You see? "Just heckin man up". Sounds good written out but is actually worthless advice. Why do you think the most important part of a therapist or doctor is that they are legally obligated not to tell anyone anything about you? The lack of empathy these days is simply outstanding.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

i have particular type of men which are akward as hell and quiet guys I am the loud one, however they always sucked with dates the easiest way to make a good date is to do something usually board games in game shops are good place, they arent that loud and everyone there are weird so it will be easy for you to entertain the person. In summer i would drag them at the beach and play with sand, Keep in mind there are many women who are ok with silence as long as you get to do something interesting that takes away the attention also list the stupid hobbies so we can give you ideas, some women are fine with baking bread, cooking , looking at mushrooms or foraging ( that can be interesting and less stressfull also) even tasting brews etc .

Hobbies would be writing, drawing, cycling, video games, movies, very basic cooking, basic music composition. Mind you no TV shows, so no Korean drama stuff, I don't have the patience for shows.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Hobbies would be writing, drawing, cycling, video games, movies, very basic cooking, basic music composition. Mind you no TV shows, so no Korean drama stuff, I don't have the patience for shows.

cycling can be done together or in groups , plenty of people do it . As for tv shows, most of the popular ones dont have more than 8-13 episodes per season and more than few seasons and dont have to be korean dramas lol, there are also plenty og anime normie shows that a season ammounts to 4-5 hrs watch time though the people who are watching them are 90 % nuts and not marriage material. Video games if you manage to find a game you can have fun with together i am completely retarded with consoles and multiplayer but plenty of women play something like animal crossing or you can use it as conversation topic .
Say your niche interests about emulators most women detest video games as hobby unless is some niche thing like emulators and games from the 90s and early 2000 bro .
I gotta say there is serious demand among women of romatic erotica writing and letter exchanging but thread litgly and you want to avoid shipping characters again they are also crazy 90% of the time

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

If you're opening up to "anyone" then you simply are naive or you actually have nothing to deal with. You see? "Just heckin man up". Sounds good written out but is actually worthless advice. Why do you think the most important part of a therapist or doctor is that they are legally obligated not to tell anyone anything about you? The lack of empathy these days is simply outstanding.

They were incredibly harsh but somewhat right.
I understand there are shitty people who take advantage of weaknesses, do you think women don't go through the same thing? The real question is- what are you doing to attract that kind of person. Do you have low self esteem, depression, etc? If so, they do need to be addressed. You're right that you don't go to just trust anybody, but you SHOULD be able to open up to your partner. My partner and I go to each other first before anyone else, even his friends told me this. They actually asked me what my secret was to get him to open up because he's so private.
Finding the right person is hard in general, it's even harder to find your true other half like I did, but I did. Work on yourself first, dating while having issues that maybe aren't worked through will only attract bad actors. This isn't blaming you btw, predators sniff out weakness like it's their job. I went 8 years without any interest in dating, worked on myself, and then found him.

@Georgio Cocklord, try board gaming groups or something that a lot of people gather for. Get to know people and make friends first, you'll have an easier time dating if it's someone you befriend first.

 

[Love Machine]

They were incredibly harsh but somewhat right.
I understand there are shitty people who take advantage of weaknesses, do you think women don't go through the same thing? The real question is- what are you doing to attract that kind of person. Do you have low self esteem, depression, etc? If so, they do need to be addressed. You're right that you don't go to just trust anybody, but you SHOULD be able to open up to your partner. My partner and I go to each other first before anyone else, even his friends told me this. They actually asked me what my secret was to get him to open up because he's so private.
Finding the right person is hard in general, it's even harder to find your true other half like I did, but I did. Work on yourself first, dating while having issues that maybe aren't worked through will only attract bad actors. This isn't blaming you btw, predators sniff out weakness like it's their job. I went 8 years without any interest in dating, worked on myself, and then found him.

If you have depression, self esteem issues, etc. The last thing you need, and the biggest waste of time you could possibly engage in is a relationship. It's not gonna be a cure all. You need to go to a therapist, or simply just make sure your life sucks less before you can move to that. Imagine the type of person you can pull is you're a depressed loser with no self esteem, probably not someone well adjusted. In fact it will probably be someone as broken and as fucked up as you. Turning your girl into your therapist is a poisioned chalice. Am I saying to just emotionally stone walled to the point were she can't even tell if she is making you happy or sad? Obviously not. But telling some chick you date for 6 months about the things that keep you up at night is a complete joke of an idea and helps nothing.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

If you have depression, self esteem issues, etc. The last thing you need, and the biggest waste of time you could possibly engage in is a relationship. It's not gonna be a cure all. You need to go to a therapist, or simply just make sure your life sucks less before you can move to that. Imagine the type of person you can pull is you're a depressed loser with no self esteem, probably not someone well adjusted. In fact it will probably be someone as broken and as fucked up as you. Turning your girl into your therapist is a poisioned chalice. Am I saying to just emotionally stone walled to the point were she can't even tell if she is making you happy or sad? Obviously not. But telling some chick you date for 6 months about the things that keep you up at night is a complete joke of an idea and helps nothing.

Are you actually looking for how to date/find love, or want to shoot down every last piece of advice so you can justify never dating? Because it really sounds like the second.
Not only have you been confrontational, you've straight up basically attacked people trying to help or offer advice. If other people want the advice, let them take it instead of arguing to drag them down to be as miserable as you seem to feel.

 

[CoolFool]

You know, better question, what's an immediate dealbreaker for most women?

Like not being able to take care of yourself, or being messy or dirty, or being a jerk or something.

I have a few immediate deal breakers, in no particular order:

1. Fat
2. Unclean/sloppy dressed
3. Porn sick
4. Jobless, or has trouble keeping a job
5. Hates animals/mean to animals
6. Rude/cruel to other people
7. Hates kids or isn't interested in having any (I want kids some day)
8. Says all his ex girlfriends were crazy/bad
9. Criminal record

10. Shorter than me.... Look, I know this one upsets some guys but I've dated a few guys that were my height or shorter than me and they were all annoying. All of them had a complex about their height that was so unattractive. Especially whenever I wore high heels, they would get so insecure. Just no.

11. Support transgender shit. This was recently added. I don't trust guys that support troonery since that tells me they either don't think outside of mainstream/leftist opinions, or they're going to troon out themselves down the road.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

Support transgender shit. This was recently added. I don't trust guys that support troonery since that tells me they either don't think outside of mainstream/leftist opinions, or they're going to troon out themselves down the road.

I have to admit maybe it’s showing my status as a stinkditch regular to focus on this, but the amount of women who take a more vested interest in, at least conversing with, or as a trusted acquaintence/friend with me once I dropped my anti-troon views in a “hey… can we keep this between us?” is astounding.