Science One in four who had Pfizer Covid jabs experienced unintended immune response - lol

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More than a quarter of people injected with mRNA Covid jabs suffered an unintended immune response created by a glitch in the way the vaccine was read by the body, a study has found.

No adverse effects were created by the error, data show, but Cambridge scientists found such vaccines were not perfect and sometimes led to nonsense proteins being made instead of the desired Covid “spike”, which mimics infection and leads to antibody production.

mRNA jabs, such as the ones created by Moderna and Pfizer, use a string of genetic material to tell the body to create a specific protein that safely imitates an infection.

Research in the field, spanning decades, had been slow work. It often stalled because RNA itself is often attacked by the body as a foreign invader.

But in 2023, the Nobel Prize for Medicine went to the pair of scientists who had spent years working to fix the problem. It was done by taking one of the RNA bases, uridine, and swapping in a very similar synthetic alternative.

This breakthrough allowed scientists to create proteins in the body without the immune system attacking the jab.

It allows for quick and precise vaccines that are highly effective and was the backbone of the Covid vaccine response.

Not a perfect fit​

It was thought the minor tweak to uridine caused no problems in cells, but a team of researchers at the University of Cambridge’s Medical Research Council (MRC) Toxicology Unit have now found when this partially synthetic code is read, the protein-making machine in the body sometimes struggles with the uridine analogues.

Because it is not a perfect fit for what is expected, there can be a momentary pause which causes the process to stutter and a letter in the code can get skipped, much like a bike slipping a gear.

This process, called frameshifting, throws out the way the code is interpreted as it relies on groups of three bases, known as codons, being read in the right order.

This issue, caused by the jab’s code, throws the process completely out of sync and the entire subsequent code becomes garbled.

In the case of the Covid jabs, the end result is a nonsensical and harmless protein, the team found, which the body attacks and leads to an immune system flare-up. The new study, published in Nature, found this occurred in around 25-30 per cent of people.

Rogue protein fear​

The vaccine is read well enough to create the strong protection against the coronavirus, the scientists say, but the frameshifting issue creates what was, until now, an unknown off-target effect.

The code relating to the Covid vaccines was harmless and no issues were created. However the team say that subsequent mRNA vaccines used for other diseases or infections could, in theory, lead to viable proteins being created that are active in the body.

In this scenario not only is the vaccine not making the right protein, it could lead to a rogue protein being produced.

There is no evidence of this occurring in the Covid jabs, the authors stress, and they say any trials on other mRNA therapeutics would detect any such problems in early stages.

Dr James Thaventhiran, senior author of the report, said: “Research has shown beyond doubt that mRNA vaccination against COVID-19 is safe. Billions of doses of the Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines have been safely delivered, saving lives worldwide.”

The authors also found that there is an easy way to eradicate the frameshifting events which relies on changing the code of the mRNA drug to minimise the use of the problematic pseudo-uridine.

Replacing it with a natural base that when read as a trio still makes the correct amino acid is enough to stop the unwanted skips and therefore improve safety without sacrificing efficacy.

These findings were shared with medicines regulator MHRA around a year ago, the scientists say, and updated vaccines that use the improved form of mRNA are in the works for cancer jabs, and other therapeutics.

‘Revolutionary technology’​

“This technology is amazing and it’s going to be revolutionary as a new medicine platform for all sorts of things, but we’ve just made it a whole lot safer going forward,” Professor Anne Willis, co-senior study author and director of the MRC Toxicology Unit told reporters.

“Ribosomes are somehow sensing the modified RNAs, but the Covid vaccines are very, very safe and very, very efficacious.

“But there are decoding issues with this technology that can cause stalling and frameshifting and we can get cellular immunity to these peptides after vaccination.”

However, she adds it is very exciting that there is a way to fix the issue, which “massively de-risks this platform going forward”.

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Whatever discussions one may or may not have engaged in have no relevance to this current discussion. I am here, discussing this topic now. I am not responsible for what anyone else says or said, that's not my problem. People should choose the greater valor of not wallowing in the filth if they have nothing intelligent to say, discuss, or contribute, because all it does is remove all doubt of their ignorance and their inability to discuss something intelligently. There is nothing to get, I am discussing the merits of the article in the OP and the study behind it using facts and information. People are more than welcome to discuss that with me as intelligent individuals, or they can chose to be stupid, ignorant, filthy pigs that are incapable of doing so. That's it, no more and no less.
We are citing sources:
cf. @Drain Todger

What because we don't argue on our own authority, we're stupid, have nothing to contribute, and are wallowing in filth? Why can't we argue on an authority's authority? What, do we all have to get doctorates in experimental gene therapy before we get to have an opinion on the jab? Just because we can't or don't want to play king of shit hill with you, we're wrong, ignorant morons?
 
people are more than welcome to discuss that with me as intelligent individuals, or they can chose to be stupid, ignorant, filthy pigs that are incapable of doing so. That's it, no more and no less.
All goes out the window when you posture like that, man. That's the point I'm making.

Tone down the reddit-tier flavoring a bit and you'll find people are more likely to engage the science talk more rationally.
 
My father in law started collapsing within a few weeks of his second
It's been known for a while now that the vaccine stays in your tissues indefinitely. I don't remember if it was the MRNA delivery vector or the synthesized spike from your body's cells processing it, though. I didn't keep track of the study link when it was shared here in the covid thread.
I'll try to find it a bit later.
 
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People need to discuss science on its own merits, the rest of it is of no concern to me. If people want to counter science with nonsense and garbage, that's fine with me, I'll just laugh at them because it just proves they are incapable of properly discussing a scientific topic in a rational manner. It makes them no better than the mindless bugmen that follow Xi. They are welcome to wallow in their ignorance and stupidity. They only makes fools of themselves, and anyone that agrees with their method of discussion need to take a long hard look in the mirror and decide if those are the people they want to associate themselves with, or would they rather discuss subjects like a thinking human being. Sure, it's easier to wallow in the mud, but is that what one really wants for themselves, to associate with the filth and mindless pigs that just parrot nonsense without critical thought, but I would hope most people would choose to reject that.

This would be nice if there had been free and rational inquiries. Science and medicine have been irreparably damaged over the last couple years.

Anyone or any publication or any organization that even thought to dispute the many pseudoscientific crap spewed out were silenced and deplatformed.

We now know there are propaganda arms of big gov and big tech colluding to force narratives and ban any actual inquiries.

Mask - don't work
Lockdowns - don't work
Hospital protocols - actually deadly
Remdesvir - deadly causes renal failure.
Paxlovid - pointless
Vaccines - don't work and are actually dangerous

The above is and was the "scientific consensus" and any study can be designed to show the right results

HCQ and ivermectin actually beneficial along with a litany of other vitamins and antioxidants
Herd immunity - should have been the target.

You going ummm actually muh soyence isn't the gotcha you think it is. It just makes you look like a reddit fag midwit.
 
Off topic, but mRNA was pushed in NY and in other states, and other states had some other covid shot pushed onto them.
Why were some states mRNA-only and others weren't?
 
Whatever discussions one may or may not have engaged in have no relevance to this current discussion. I am here, discussing this topic now. I am not responsible for what anyone else says or said, that's not my problem. People should choose the greater valor of not wallowing in the filth if they have nothing intelligent to say, discuss, or contribute, because all it does is remove all doubt of their ignorance and their inability to discuss something intelligently. There is nothing to get, I am discussing the merits of the article in the OP and the study behind it using facts and information. People are more than welcome to discuss that with me as intelligent individuals, or they can chose to be stupid, ignorant, filthy pigs that are incapable of doing so. That's it, no more and no less.
Just skip to the part where you admit to being a pedophile tranny.
 
Feel free to provide facts with peer-reviewed, reasonable sources to refute what I have posted, retard.
yo i know it can get frustrating to see rightoids keep making crazy claims about everyone who took the vax dropping over dead in just two more weeks for real this time but are you really going to tell people their opinions are dumb if they're not sucking the cock of academia? this site is basically a forbidden archive of how many scientific studies and scientists themselves have political brain rot and continuously lie about covid, trannies, guns, "misinformation", trump, etc

are you really going to say unless someone gives you a study done on the dangers of mRNA or vaccines, which would never get published in the first place or get taken down like we've seen with other covid/mask related studies, that they don't have a valid opinion? you're basically arguing over the existence of god at this point because science has been corrupted and is completely untrustworthy

your inability to understand this only gives the crazy people more authority. imagine asking for a scientific paper as evidence in 2023. lol. lmao even
 
You realize that the VAERS database is literally worthless, right? It's filled to the brim with garbage that has absolutely no use. Anyone can put in a report that say anything. You can do it yourself. There is no reason they had to do it for you when anyone can do it. You can still do it. Knock yourself out. Maybe it would make you feel better.

It is the purview of the medical examiner to determine cause of death and all relevant factors that were contributory. If you have a problem with the outcome of that procedure, you have every right to contest it and even have your own expert examine the remains and reach a conclusion. You also say "as far as you know" so you don't actually know for a fact that it wasn't included on the long form death certificate? Seems like that would be an important thing to know for sure.
I’m in Canada you condescending nitwit, I never said anything about VAERS.

Please, explain to me more about how medical examiners work in my jurisdiction. You seem to have global legal expertise, in addition to omnipotent medical knowledge.

FYI, we asked for an autopsy, this was rejected. Again, there was intense political pressure to not see what was happening. His “cause of death” was a officially a heart attack. He should have had an autopsy, and that he didn’t was suspicious.

”Heart attack” obviously does not fully capture what actually happened, and what I am saying is: this is just one non-extraordinary example and that there was a concerted effort not to see what was happening, and that your data is unreliable.
 
Proof for any of this? Doubtful
Would it even matter if they showed you proof? I highly doubt it. This tactic you’re employing is incredibly lazy at best, pretending that you were living under a rock for the last several years and didn’t see people being deplatformed from multiple social media sites at the very least for giving their input on the coof that conflicted with the government.

I’m willing to bet if you were shown evidence of these claims you’d simply counter with “Oh, but that was only one or two examples so you see it didn’t really happen it was just a fringe incident.” And this would continue with more demands of evidence that can never satisfy you because you simply aren’t arguing in good faith.

You’re not the first to try this and you won’t be the last. You’re just the latest retard.
 
RE: The vaccine not being cleared in a few days like @Manul Otocolobus states:
I found the post with the study posted. Basically we don't know how long the vaccine lasts in your system because the only test (at least at the time) showed it's still there for the entirety of the sample window (8 weeks) and they didn't continue the test to see how long it took to be gone completely.
Edit: mind you this was back when the claim was "it's broken down and flushed from your body in a few days"
 
No, you haven't cited sources. You are just putting a name. That isn't a reasoned position. It's just a name. You didn't even bother to link or quote anything he has said.
Sure it is. It's shorthand for I've read what DT's reasoned posts have to say, and I believe them over what you've said, and I believe him over you.
Also, no, attacking people without any substantive discussion that provides anything of any value to the conversation is what makes people filthy idiots.
Calling you a liar is a self-evident, cogent argument. It's self-evident from your posts that you're ideologically captured and you're just here to bully people for telling you no.
Anyone can have an uninformed opinion, that's how they work. If people want to discuss actual science, that's a different matter. If you don't or can't discuss something then why respond with invective? Why not just shut up? Because you are incapable of doing so?
You're not the arbiter of science. You sitting like a judge in a courtroom isn't doing "science" either. It's just you being an arrogant asshat on the Internet, but with a science topic.
 
It's your country, don't you know? Plus, I believe you were the one that was using the "as far as I know" indicating you don't even know what you are talking about.
Of course I know, you idiot, I live here and and have to fight this retarded system. You’re the one claiming I have a bunch of rights to bring in my own medical examiner, and sneering that I didn’t.

When I said “as far as I know” I was talking about whether or not his death was linked to his vaccine injury, they tried hard enough not to, as far as I know he is just listed in the stats as a heart attack and not related to covid vaccines.

What is wrong with you?
 
Thank you for proving me right, you contributed nothing of interest or value to this conversation and are incapable of stopping yourself from demonstrating that you are a retard.
I linked you to a poster with probably hundreds of posts on this topic. If you can't be assed to go read them that's on you.

We don't have to play king of the mountain with you just because we won't restate a case better made by others. You refuse to read your opposition.
 
Thank you for proving me right, you contributed nothing of interest or value to this conversation and are incapable of stopping yourself from demonstrating that you are a retard.
I don't know what you want besides an argument: I do the hard work of ctrl+f'ing a published study like you wanted, that demonstrates the vaccine stays in you indefinitely, and you just ignore it to catfight in the thread like a hypocrite.
 
I wasn't trying to give a fully accurate, scientific breakdown, just a general rundown. So there are plenty of inaccuracies, I'm sure. Including mixing in bacterial infections. But it's close enough.

Basically, if the Vax didn't fuck you up within 6 months, you're probably fine. But I'd avoid any boosters or you're just gambling again.
 
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