Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[FedPostalService]

then bullying streamers offline if they dare played Hogwarts Legacy

I keep on seeing this mentioned and I think this only really happened to the “alphabet ally” types.

A few (actual) female streamers I watch have streamed this game a few times from start to finish a few times and have had zero issues. None.

These are just normal woman streaming and don’t do the “we care about current thing” so don’t get the breadtube watching weirdos. No politics, zero sex chat, just fun slightly autistic gaming.

The clips I’ve seen of bullied streamers seem to be mongs who want a “safe and inclusive” community full of every colour of the rainbow and, hey guys, trans women are hecking woman.

What do you get when you create a community that appeals to the tranny mob? You get what you fucking deserve.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Isn't it funny how anytime your mind tries to doubt your thoughts, life comes in and reaffirms your suspicions? A few trans people I've met by chance ended up all being in poly relationships. I found out about a month ago and this shit still boggles my mind. There is such a high density of degenerates in this group of people. They always surround themselves with people as unstable as themselves.

It's probably because people with alternative lifestyles associate with people with alternative lifestyles. That is, everyone who has some belief that they're sticking it to the normies will probably find other people who engage in different flavors of sticking it to the normies and then adopt each others' dumb lifestyle choices.

I'm not saying we all have to conform to the same lifestyle. It's just that sometimes people who don't tend to act like they've discovered some profound truth in nonconformity, almost to the point of shunning anything normal.

TL;DR: if you choose the weirdo life, it ain't gonna stop at one version of weird.

 

[TruffleSpark]

It's probably because people with alternative lifestyles associate with people with alternative lifestyles. That is, everyone who has some belief that they're sticking it to the normies will probably find other people who engage in different flavors of sticking it to the normies and then adopt each others' dumb lifestyle choices.

Literally the goth kids from South Park. We are going to be non conformists by all dressing alike, acting alike, and listening to the same music as each other.

 

[instant]

Isn't it funny how anytime your mind tries to doubt your thoughts, life comes in and reaffirms your suspicions? A few trans people I've met by chance ended up all being in poly relationships. I found out about a month ago and this shit still boggles my mind. There is such a high density of degenerates in this group of people. They always surround themselves with people as unstable as themselves.

I remember a really long time ago, back when DeviantArt was still sorta mainstream, ended up joining a group with a tranny who I thought was normal. It was a non-porn, NES pallette art group and there was never really any discussion of anything remotely sex or fetish related.

Then one day I went to his profile and saw a journal post about how he wants to suck his little brother's cock.

 

[Hinttitroniikka]

It's probably because people with alternative lifestyles associate with people with alternative lifestyles. That is, everyone who has some belief that they're sticking it to the normies will probably find other people who engage in different flavors of sticking it to the normies and then adopt each others' dumb lifestyle choices.

I'm not saying we all have to conform to the same lifestyle. It's just that sometimes people who don't tend to act like they've discovered some profound truth in nonconformity, almost to the point of shunning anything normal.

TL;DR: if you choose the weirdo life, it ain't gonna stop at one version of weird.

The copium of "Everything I was told was a lie." It takes hundreds of forms and they're all so fascinating to me. But I wonder why it is that when one realises eight or ten things they "knew" turned out to be wrong, they dig out these rabbitholes themselves and then jump down them claiming that everything is a conspiracy. I would imagine that's why many people in this thread say that they don't really harbour transphobia as such, just that they don't hold every single current year queer theory tenet to be true anymore after giving it a little more thought and reading. Like, "A couple things I was told were wrong, but no, not EVERYTHING."

 

[Wurdulac]

Honestly? Just listening to trans women speak did it for me. It seems like there's more of them each month, and they're all weird furry sex pests. Every time I see a post about wanting to be a "puppygirl" or some weird depraved kink shit, the culprit is always a troon. Don't even get me started on the "not telling your partner you're trans isn't rape by deception" stuff. That's the thing that initially made me realize that something isn't right.

 

[popsoda]

How do you differentiate between a "woman-born-in-a-male-body" and "male-fetish-obsessed-sissy-bottom"?
Sure, people may say transgenderism is a real thing, and maybe they're right. But how can you tell a transgender person apart from a sex-pest?

Footnote: I don't mean to be rude, I'm 100% serious. How can you tell them apart?

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

How do you differentiate between a "woman-born-in-a-male-body" and "male-fetish-obsessed-sissy-bottom"?
Sure, people may say transgenderism is a real thing, and maybe they're right. But how can you tell a transgender person apart from a sex-pest?

Footnote: I don't mean to be rude, I'm 100% serious. How can you tell them apart?

Short answer: You don't.

Spoiler: Long Answer

Either way, it's a self-destructive livestyle that involves an impossible fantasy. The only reasonable thing to do in response to gender dysphoria is literally to get the fuck over it and accept what's irrevocably hardwired into every fibre of your being.

Transgenderism is unhealthy either way, it's not conducive to happiness either way. Even "real trans" will destroy themselves and drag everyone else down with them. If we truly cared about transgender individuals, and the people closest to them, we'd be looking for a cure to gender dysphoria.

 

[popsoda]

Short answer: You don't.

Spoiler: Long Answer

Either way, it's a self-destructive livestyle that involves an impossible fantasy. The only reasonable thing to do in response to gender dysphoria is literally to get the fuck over it and accept what's irrevocably hardwired into every fibre of your being.

Transgenderism is unhealthy either way, it's not conducive to happiness either way. Even "real trans" will destroy themselves and drag everyone else down with them. If we truly cared about transgender individuals, and the people closest to them, we'd be looking for a cure to gender dysphoria.

My understanding currently is that some people may be born with the "wrong body" compared to their sex. And that's fine - If you're a lady in a male body or a gentleman in a female body, I can understand the stress from this,

But where I stop my understanding is where these people are willing to permanently disfigure their bodies because of this. If you're born in a male body, if you're born in a female body, you have the parts you have. Any surgery is just going to leave you a mutilated freak of a person. I can't fathom wanting that.

 

[Nick Obre]

My understanding currently is that some people may be born with the "wrong body" compared to their sex.

No. There's no such thing.

At most someone may genuinely believe it due to some severe psychosis, mania, or trauma. But there's no separation of concepts that could mean someone is "in the wrong body". There's no male or female brains either, at least not in a way that could produce a male with a female brain, or the opposite.

So the only distinction to make is, is this person under a genuine misapprehension, or is this a degenerate seeking a fetish, or a predator seeking easier access to prey, or a combination of the above?

And then there's your other question, why the mutilation?
Those under a mania will do it because it's the object of their mania, they can't help it. Like an anorexic who compulsively tries to slim down despite being nothing but skin and bones, or a person who believes a limb doesn't belong to them and wants it amputated.
Those who are fetishist degenerates are, well, so far degenerated, so desensitized to normal stimuli, that they will seek that coom over the cliff and mangle themselves in the attempt. Like auto erotic asphyxiation, they risk their life and health for the sexual pleasure, and tell themselves "no, stalker child, I won't be the one to die or permanently injure myself from this, it will work for me".

 

[Jacques1194]

Either way, it's a self-destructive livestyle that involves an impossible fantasy. The only reasonable thing to do in response to gender dysphoria is literally to get the fuck over it and accept what's irrevocably hardwired into every fibre of your being.

Transgenderism is unhealthy either way, it's not conducive to happiness either way. Even "real trans" will destroy themselves and drag everyone else down with them. If we truly cared about transgender individuals, and the people closest to them, we'd be looking for a cure to gender dysphoria.

This!Even if you bought into the true trans narrative, gender or sex changes aren't possible.All you're left with are mutilated bodies and have to take drugs for the rest of your life to stay happy.I dont understand how self acceptance for who you're born as is seen as conversion therapy when the opposite is deluding yourself into believing these drugs, and surgery will turn you into the opposite gender/sex.

My understanding currently is that some people may be born with the "wrong body" compared to their sex. And that's fine - If you're a lady in a male body or a gentleman in a female body, I can understand the stress from this,

If such a concept was real then why dont we see that with anything else?Race is said to be a social construct like gender and yet trans people will tell you that trans racial is ridiculous and impossible.Same with trans species and trans age.Even setting aside those concepts, who's to say I wasn't born in the wrong body, because I would want someone else's life?The problem with trans and being born in the wrong sex's body is that it begs the question as to when someone is born wrong.Is it only when the person feels alienated from their sex and nothing else?If so,why?

 

[AnOminous]

The problem with trans and being born in the wrong sex's body is that it begs the question as to when someone is born wrong.Is it only when the person feels alienated from their sex and nothing else?If so,why?

Why does it take starting a tumblr account or joining a Discord and hundreds of hours of cajoling and grooming by adult perverts to realize you were born in the wrong body?

 

[majorplayer]

Why does it take starting a tumblr account or joining a Discord and hundreds of hours of cajoling and grooming by adult perverts to realize you were born in the wrong body?

Which also begs the question were people born in the wrong body before the internet suggested it?

 

[Standardized Profile]

There's no male or female brains either, at least not in a way that could produce a male with a female brain, or the opposite.

There are some aberrations in HSTS MTF and FTM transsexuals' brains that can be interpreted as feminizing and masculinizing, though not to the point of a "male brain" or "female brain." There's not much research on AGP brains, but they seem to be more masculine, suggesting they're just degenerate coomers.

The data in this paper predates ROGD and Reddit, so it may not be reflective of the average TS today.

Link | Archive

 

[Jacques1194]

At most someone may genuinely believe it due to some severe psychosis, mania, or trauma. But there's no separation of concepts that could mean someone is "in the wrong body". There's no male or female brains either, at least not in a way that could produce a male with a female brain, or the opposite.

There was a TRA who I had a discussion with online recently, and they admitted that "There is no male or female brains, but there are similarities in the brains commonly found in women that aren't commonly found in men, and vice versa. These studies linked are all using data from cis men/women vs transgender people to see if there are any differences from one group to the other."They go on to say that a trans woman's brain has similarities to cis woman's.The problems I have with these studies is that none of them explain what this means.There are brain studies which show a woman’s reading comprehension and writing ability consistently exceed that of men, on average.Whereas men, on average, can more easily juggle items in working memory.If a TIM had a brain similar to a "cis woman's" then wouldn't that just mean he has excellent reading comprehension skills?Yet that wouldn't mean he's a women deep down because some women dont have good reading comprehension skills and yet still are women.Other studies also say women are more prone to have certain mental health conditions, like depression.Whereas men are more likely to have certain neurodevelopmental conditions, such as autism spectrum disorder.(ironic considering autism is common in TIPs especially TIMs)But none of this is proof of transgenderism if a guy has a brain that's more prone to depression like a woman's.That's the problem I have with these studies.They dont really prove gender identity, and just claim what the average sex is more prone to doing.We know GNC people exist and still (at least before transgenderism confused everyone)are comfortable with their birth sex.So none of that proves "man trapped inside woman's body".Also by saying there's no male or female brains then TRAs are basically admitting that a TIM isn't really a woman, its just his brain makes him do things on average that a cis women would do, which wouldn't make him a woman either way.

 

[melty]

Which also begs the question were people born in the wrong body before the internet suggested it?

There were certainly some, but astronomically fewer. It's weird how many of them say they never thought of it until they found out being trans is a thing. So you would have just been fine forever if tranny surgeries didn't exist? No crushing dysphoria? They like to claim they "felt something was off," but that's extremely vague and common enough to apply to anything. People say the same things about religion, hobbies, fashion, etc. Mostly what you see is these people didn't have "dysphoria" until they get sucked into tranny spaces.

 

[majorplayer]

There were certainly some, but astronomically fewer. It's weird how many of them say they never thought of it until they found out being trans is a thing. So you would have just been fine forever if tranny surgeries didn't exist? No crushing dysphoria? They like to claim they "felt something was off," but that's extremely vague and common enough to apply to anything. People say the same things about religion, hobbies, fashion, etc. Mostly what you see is these people didn't have "dysphoria" until they get sucked into tranny spaces.

See, this is what bothers me about this incessant need to have the government become the parents. All this propaganda related to if someone doesn't accept their delusional fantasies they are transphobic.

Smart parents recognize the first time these cultists come up and where are they? On the Internet. Reduce their exposure to that and social media and you have a better shot at keeping your kid away from troons.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Which also begs the question were people born in the wrong body before the internet suggested it?

Sure. People come up with weird ideas independent of whether someone presented those ideas to them, or they got there in roundabout ways.

Ed Gein's mother undoubtedly fucked him up. And I'm sure he was far from the only person that was ever fucked over by a parent that were anywhere from subtle to overt about how the kid should have been born the opposite sex.

The vocabulary was probably different (there's nothing new under the sun), but the general conceptualization of not being born "correctly" has something that's likely been around as long as humans had self-awareness.

As if there's a way of knowing what the "right" body to be born into should be, but that's a different discussion.

 

[Thursday]

At this point I just want to know when everyone is going to collectively peak on this enough to make it okay to call them mentally ill sex pests publicly without getting canceled.

 

[Not A Bunny]

At this point I just want to know when everyone is going to collectively peak on this enough to make it okay to call them mentally ill sex pests publicly without getting canceled.

One one of my social media accounts, a friend posted about Trump just after the election in 2016. One of his friends posted that he knew of "someone" who got slapped on the ass while riding public transportation, and her assailant accompanied the slap with a boisterous "Welcome to Trump's America!"

That didn't happen. I God damn guarantee it didn't happen. That shit is Smollett territory right there, but if it did, we'd be living in the kind of society where if you ever did come across a genderspecial that decided they felt compelled to tell you how gender special they were, you'd be unbothered by anyone when you rightfully put these assholes in their place for not finding a better outlet for their lack of hugs they got as a child.

I don't even like Trump, but I have a half-hearted wish that he was the dictator that everyone said he was.