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You misunderstand me, I think, or perhaps I should have been more clear.

I continue to be appalled by the unconstitutional Patriot Act and our use of secret prisons and torture, I still think that our invasion of Iraq is the most evil thing my nation has done during my lifetime, and that Bush and co are war criminals who should be prosecuted and punished.

What I now regard as cringe is the fact that I became a breathless hysterical twerp about it, online and off, more or less continuously for a period of several years.

This period was followed by my enthusiastic support for Barack Obama - who, I firmly believed, was going to right all the wrongs of the vile Bush administration. By 2012 it had become clear to me he was basically A-OK with all the rank shit Bush had done, at which point smoke poured out my ears and several gears and springs came loose from me in comical fashion. I've never quite been the same.
I didn't give as much of a shit until 2014 where Edward Snowden dropped his details and everyone went out of their way to shun him. Considering Obama had been sold to people on the diet of HOPE AND CHANGE (I was working nights in 2012 and bouncing between states so I couldn't be assed to vote) there was a dearth of both.
Are... are all of you millennials so mad because you voted for Obama and are trying to justify your vote by making Bush Hitler because the way you guys describe Iraq, it's worse than WW2, the Civil War, 1812, and the revolution COMBINED
Bush Jr caused a lot of problems that we're still dealing with to this very day. I was there. I saw it. People were more or less eager to go to Afghanistan because of bin Laden. The public justification for Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo was 'they have WMDs' and even then there were some people that were saying 'what the fuck does that have to do with Osama bin Laden?' There was never a justification and when they publicly turned it into a nation building exercise at the expense of more and more troops people were done with it. Bush barely skated by in 2004 because Kerry was the democratic candidate and he would have been worse.

You are too young to remember any of this. Stop sucking Bush Jr's dick on this when he absolutely deserves to eat shit on Iraq.
The worst part is the simple fact that we could have been out of there by mid-2003.

THREE FUCKING TIMES normal fucking grunts found bin Laden.

THREE FUCKING TIMES!

One of them, he had like 4 guys with him with a broken down vehicle after the other vehicle left to get help.

Every time, when they radioed back, Delta, the SEALs, and the Green Weenies threw a bitch fit and demanded they be the ones to do it.

Three times regular Army guys had to watch bin Liden drive off while the snake eaters all screeched and had themselves a faggoty little slap fight over who was supposed to take him down.

Which is why, in Iraq, when they found Saddam and radioed back, they were then told to wait for the snake eaters, the SSG said "FUCK THIS!" and they dragged him out of the hole.

Reading those fucking reports was goddamn embarrassing.

Fucking Afghanistan was so the CIA and the snake eaters could all stroke each others dicks.
Don't forget the poppy fields that American soldiers were told to protect during the time that the opiod crisis was slowly taking root back home. That opium was of enough strategic importance that we wasted American lives to save them.
He'll take the people who sign on to his platform across because people will notice it.

Nobody's going to vote for McCuckery anymore.
I'm still half convinced that a batshit leftist will make an attempt on Trump's life if he wins, and it is a damn good thing that he has shown his Secret Service detail that he values their protection and loyalty.
 
Reading the past few pages about the views of a war from a bunch of kids, makes me feel really fucking old that I was one of the dumbfucks who went to Afghanistan.

Whatever you are told, whatever you have read, whatever you saw about that war, it's all fucking lies. Afghan was a massive MIC glow-op.
I was seriously injured in Iraq and some of my friends died, for bullshit reasons. My hatred for the United States government is eternal. I have dreams about cracking open a beer and watching DC get annihilated by a nuke. I'd die with a smile on my face.
 
They did that during his campaign in 2020.
He squared up and was ready to personally body that guy who charged him with a knife.
He stepped IN FRONT of his detail, not behind them.
Video? I've not heard of that and with respect, it sounds dubious. Not even necessarily on a moral front but the SS I presume to be very on the ball.
 
The God Emperor memes I miss more than Trump's actual presidential term if I'm to be honest. The Dark Biden memes are the equal and opposite reaction to the God Emperor Trump memes. Pathetic unfunny and cringey as hell.
I miss The Centipede, with it's nimble body and two curved, hollow fangs. ☹️
 
Video? I've not heard of that and with respect, it sounds dubious. Not even necessarily on a moral front but the SS I presume to be very on the ball.
I can't find good footage because of pozzed search engines front-loading "criminal charges" whenever you search for his name.
The footage made him look good and I wouldn't be surprised if it was memory-holed.
 
This.
We didn't want the fucking patriot act and dubya basically created a proto-totalitarian state.
The GOP defended him to the balls and it resulted in us voting in a democrat supermajority, then Obama was promising to roll back and they instead just took control of it and suped it up even more.
American history intentionally skipped over that part of history of where FDR ran opposite of Hoover during the election. And after FDR won he done the bait-and-switch on the American voters and fucked them hard with it.
When he didn't, the only thing that saved Obama's ass was the GOP running fucking Romney against him in 2012. I view it as deliberately throwing the election.
GOP had been fucked prior to 1996 election season as it was running on seniority first, his turn first in selecting their presidential nominations. 08 had that and Manchurian Candidate McCain tard raging ever since the American choose bush over him in 00 just gotta have his turn an being presidential nominate.
 
I'm gonna tell you something: dad was in the Gulf War. I know about Iraq. It's a mess. But we won it. Acting like Bush is worse than Obama is fucking ridiculous. And if I hear "war criminal" without seeing Japanese labor camps- gitmo don't count, get fucked- I'm going to break something
Take your meds sperg.
 
It used to be so easy to decide where to go if you wanted cheap food while on a road trip. The insane prices now have me considering a sit in restaurant as alternatives since the price delta isn't be much greater.
I just experienced this the other day - I took my girlfriend to a diner. Two deluxe burgers, some soda, and sharing a fudge brownie for dessert and they handed me a $60 bill. Seriously? For diner food? If I'm gonna drop $60, I'd rather go to a restaurant and have two $30 entrees.
 
Are... are all of you millennials so mad
Says the millennial who was two years old when we went into Baghdad. Sit down, be quiet and pay attention:

Jet Fuel Johnny is right that the whole Afghanistan/Iraq adventure was for spooks and crooks to get theirs. And it goes back to the Soviet Union leaving Afghanistan after our spooks radicalized the Afghans, arming and using the locals to push them out, and helped precipitate the dissolution of the USSR. leading to:
Fukuyama's "End of History" theory. The basic idea was that socialism and communism were now Officially Discredited in the eyes of the whole world, and that American or Western European style representative democracy + welfare-state capitalism were THE final political and economic models for the world, and all that was left to do was wait for the more backwards nations of the earth to commit to the plan, under the technocratic governance of experts from the UN and other globalized organizations, all backed up by NATO as the UN's strong right arm, with America being the big meaty bicep of that arm.
and the wholesale adoption of Trotskyite influenced neocons by the government who have all declared due to "American Exceptionalism" we should rule the world, and use all our resources to that end, using Democracy as a cover. This is a joint effort with Israel and the UK and if you ever bother to look closely you can see them in places only an American should be. Like this bong cunt telling us we're paying a discount to get Ukrainians to die for American security:


Bitch, its an ocean and a thousand miles away from us, what security does it provide for America?
Protip: none
 
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I just experienced this the other day - I took my girlfriend to a diner. Two deluxe burgers, some soda, and sharing a fudge brownie for dessert and they handed me a $60 bill. Seriously? For diner food? If I'm gonna drop $60, I'd rather go to a restaurant and have two $30 entrees.
Yeah. Prices are stupid.

And because the price increase is only hitting places like that you’d get much better food, more of it with better service, for the same price if you just went to a nice resturant.

It’s nuts.
 
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Elizabeth Warren even though she lied about being a fucking Indian so she could get ahead at Harvard
look part of my family is from MO, and honestly before DNA testing it not common for there to be rumors about have native american or a nigger in the wood pile.

Years ago I listened to a speech by warren and she made alot of sense about how moving from a 1 income house hold to a 2 income house holds basically doubled the chance of economic failure.

Anyway its a weird thing to pick on her for, she took the DNA test and renouced having red man blood
 
And it goes back to the Soviet Union leaving Afghanistan after our spooks radicalized the Afghans
You're glossing over why the soviets invaded Afghanistan to begin with. The new communist Afghan government had refused to become a Soviet puppet regime and was pursuing its own foreign policy objectives, which led to the Soviets attempting to do to Afghanistan what they had done to Czechoslovakia a decade earlier: Overthrow an allied, but independent government and replace it with a obedient vassal. The Afghan president believed that he was being invaded by the Americans until he was arrested. The Soviets overthrew him and installed their puppet regime, which led to the mujahideen rebelling against the new Soviet rule. Then the Americans stepped in, seeing an opportunity to destabilise a geopolitical enemy. They wouldn't have had that opportunity if not for the Soviets attempting to gain total control over the country first.
 
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