Amazon Studios to develop series based on Fallout

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

The female ghoul is sad and lonely and repeating her name but plot twist she's actually a feral maniac ghoul who wants to eat people.

To be fair this was set up earlier with the Ghoul in the Medical Clinic that Cooper and Lucy talk to, so I didn't come out of nowhere.

 

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To be fair this was set up earlier with the Ghoul in the Medical Clinic that Cooper and Lucy talk to, so I didn't come out of nowhere.

That was actually kind of dumb because right before that Lucy clearly saw ghouls can be insane/zombies.

And that wasnt a plot twist either, could see that from a mile away.

 

[Captain Manning]

The first Fallout movie script from 1998 literally had its main plot twist be that the creator of the vaults launched a nuke at one of them to test the results. And the nuke launch was detected and misinterpreted by other countries as being hostile and it inadvertently caused the Great War. All other countries began launching their nukes in response and it escalated into a full fledged worldwide apocalyptic event.

There are dozens of Cold War era movies, comics, and books, with the exact same plot. Of a test or training exercise from the military accidentally triggering a real response and it going into full nuclear war. But the original Fallout story and Fallout Bible were pretty clear that the Great War's beginning was always meant to be deliberately unknown to keep the mystery in the minds of the players.

That's correct. Though I presume the aborted '98 script isn't canon and they could have ignored it with no penalty. In general, the canonicity of Tim Cain's stuff has been pretty iffy since Fallout 3 was released.

No, the reason why I always thought Vault Tec might be complicit in the Great War is it makes little sense for them to set up all those experiments (and control vaults), with no desire for the experiments to be actually run. I don't know if you can really say nobody wanted the Great War to happen.

I think Bethesda was always inching in this direction, and they just let Amazon finally pull the trigger. From what I'm reading, they might have done it in a ham fisted manner though. Rather than this "fiduciary duty" crap, I always envisioned it more as the U.S. Government (later Enclave), contracting an unethical Vault Tec to do this shit so they could bring about a new world order.

 

[Miller]

Is there really a troon BoS? Microsoft can't leave the console market soon enough and Bethesda needs to go bankrupt.

Putin please harden your heart and start a nuclear war please

Going third-party will do more damages to the industry.

In retrospect it's very remarkable that New Vegas got made in the first place.

It is what they want. The normalfag masses have always been groundzero of the lowest common denominator, and trying to rationalize with them is a futile effort.
And it always ends in a response similar to that of Pete Hines;
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Was that the real Pete Hines or Jim/Metokur?

 

[Absolutego]

Fallout is not post apocalyptic. It's post post apocalyptic. Two centuries beyond the actual fallout of the Great Wars. Where humanity has been rebuilding civilization and surviving and sustaining itself. It's not the same as other series that often get referenced as being similar 'post apocalyptic' franchises. As those are usually set mere months or years after the apocalypse. Or sometimes actually during which would make them just apocalyptic.

Bethesda never understood this. Hence Fallout 3 and beyond having their entire cities littered with trash and no one having any sources of food or clean water. The premise of Fallout 3 is that the entire Capital Wasteland hasn't had potable water for two-hundred straight years. Fallout 76 was even more absurd with people battling raider groups, deathclaws, and supermutants under the atomic clouds like those existed mere seconds after the bombs dropped. Because for them this franchise is apocalyptic. Like 28 Days later or Dawn of the Dead. Their brains cannot understand that the first game takes place twenty decades after the bombs dropped.

Building off of this, another thing Bethesda never understands is that Fallout wasn't the 1950's during an apocalypse, it's the 1950's idea of the future, if it had an apocalypse, and then another 200 years went by. People shouldn't be wandering around in single family homes pre-war that look like the set of Leave it to Beaver, it should look more like a less airborne Jetsons. They won't still be obsessed with Jello molds. Goggins shouldn't be apologizing for fucking up the oil change in his wife's car, it should be a nuclear engine. Newsies, greasers, pompadours, letter jackets, people in pinstripes, and snarky DJs endlessly playing doo wop songs are all examples of this mistake. The Vault Dwellers weren't wearing jumpsuits because it was something unique to the vaults at the time, it's because the 1950's vision of the future had everyone wearing jumpsuits.

One thing in the show that didn't bother me was how racially integrated Goggin's scenes in the before times were, because it's set 120 years after the 50's, until the show kept bringing up 50's racial issues like that one black dude getting punched out in the first episode to keep him from entering the bunker or that Indian actor only getting cast in racist parts (I mean, the diversity still makes it stupid that the vault dwelling population so inbred they're worried about incest is also a rainbow of diversity instead of generically brown, but whatever, I assume that order came down from on high).

What's weird is sometimes Bethesda gets right, but then simultaneously fucks it up. Diamond City being a city built in Fenway Park works, mostly. That one baseball-obsessed dude, in a 50's uniform, speaking in a 50's accent, and somehow making a living selling the related equipment for the game does not. Compare him to Caesar's Legionaries wearing football pads as armor.

It also feels like turning Vault-Tech into a Machiavellian organization who started the apocalypse intentionally, and keep nuking any attempts to establish a civilization not led by them, is Bethesda just trying to set up a reason for it always to look like the bombs dropped twenty minutes ago for all future installments of the series. But, then again, they probably aren't that clever either.

 

[Captain Manning]

It also feels like turning Vault-Tech into a Machiavellian organization who started the apocalypse intentionally, and keep nuking any attempts to establish a civilization not led by them, is Bethesda just trying to set up a reason for it always to look like the bombs dropped twenty minutes ago for all future installments of the series. But, then again, they probably aren't that clever either.

I think they're setting up for a big bad behind the big bad reveal in season two (if it happens) in which they reveal Vault-Tec is and was acting under orders from the deep-state Enclave. The "shadowy figure" seems to suggest that.

What I don't understand is why they feel Vault-Tec needs to be around at all post 2077. I always assumed the were a pre-war defense contractor that did the Enclave's dirty work, and then they got fucked like most of the rest of the world.

 

[Dick Mason]

Sorry, chuds, you lose. Even microceleb nazi whisperers are onboard. Hollywood is eternal.

 

[Bunny Wigglesworth]

No troon (as far as I know) in the BoS, just an enby - which might be worse. Someone said there was a tranny character in the show, and I don't plan on going through it again to just practice my troondar.

The one whose boots are sabotaged w/ razors is a pooner.

Xelia Uses He/Him and They/Them Pronouns, in that Preference Order​

Mendes-Jones has been very vocal about what pronouns he uses, making sure their fans can always refer to him correctly.

He had once posted that he used, in preference order, he/him, they/them, and she/her, but said that "the she/her is only there because [he is] non-confrontational lol.

In early 2024, though, he told Instagram that he "only really uses he/they now," and that "if you still refer to [him] as female, that's on you at this stage."

However, he made it clear that if he is playing a character who uses different pronouns, he "always totally [understands] confusion/learning" if people accidentally misgender them.

It’s easy to miss in the show, but when the Elder is interrogating Maximilian about the sabotage, he refers to Aspirant Dane (the pooner) as “they” and ”their injury”. It’s a bit subtle & per IMDB the character is only in 2 episodes, but that’s always how this starts isn’t it. Went from “we just want to get married”, to normalizing troonage, demanding access to your children and their medical treatment & cancelling figures who push back against trannies in schools, sports clubs & women’s bathrooms. Once they’ve normalized & legitimized Gender Dysphoria, what‘ll be the next thing...because they’ll never stop until they’re stopped.

Whoever said this show will appeal to people whose only concept of Fallout is FO4 & 76 had it right. It’s going to make hardcore Fallout fans cringe and will confuse normies.

 

[LGHDR+]

I just came to say

 

[CHARizard]

Watched episode 3 before turning off for the night, I have some thoughts.

Show is not great, I still am enjoying Goggins everytime hes on screen but the other side plots kinda suck.

-The Vault 33 residents have a meeting to discuss their prisoners and I did laugh when they started to suggest teaching the raiders Shakespeare and the brother character says, "why dont we just kill them?"

-I hate the BoS plot. Maximus actor is atrocious, and his stuff feels the most "Marvel" out of the entire show. They turned T-60 power armor into an Iron Man suit and it just bothers me. Jetpacks were in 4 and 76, but in those games they were more like jump packs, letting you traverse vertically easier but thats about it. They are clearly setting him up to be the love interest all from him just seeing pretty lady doing nice thing. Give us a Paladin Danse character next time, guy with a weird past but stoic in the horrors of the wastes.

-Also it shows this western brotherhood taking orders from the Commonwealth, wasnt there a schism? Why take orders from the Lyons chapter at all? I know lore doesnt really matter in the show to the writers but why include that line?

-The Gulper is not accurate and I hate it. Ive killed a million of these things in 76, why is this one part human.

-The constant environment jumps are really annoying. Lush forest -> shanty town -> desert -> swamp. Theres no sense of scale or distance in anything. The characters just jump around as the plot dictates.

-The brand new 2x4 wood will always bug me, some of the sets look decent, others look out of place in a Fallout universe

-Junk jet has shown up multiple times, maybe show us a Fat Man, Plasma Caster, or any iconic weapon thats not FO4 slop.

Rambling aside I think its a pretty middling show, just glad copies were available online day one so I didnt have to buy it. Cut the Brotherhood out and I think it would be a whole lot better.

 

[Gorby-Chan]

I watched it all yesterday, the only good part was Walton Goggins, honestly the whole show should have been just him. The brotherhood stuff was gay nigger Ironman and the vault dweller plot was somehow a more retarded fallout 3

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

tl;dr: Tim Cain liked the first two episodes but hasn't watched the whole series yet. Todd Howard reached out to him personally about going to the premiere. Apparently the Showrunner/Writer specifically wanted to talk to him. Tim believes he really was a fan of Fallout.

 

[Pope Urban II]

 

[TVB]

the only good part was Walton Goggins

It's should be noted that he was also in Tomb Raider 2018, also written by Genneva Dworvet-Robertson, who also wrote and showran the new Fallout series. He really loves to say yes to anything bad he's in, doesn't he?

 

[General Emílio Médici]

It's should be noted that he was also in Tomb Raider 2018, also written by Genneva Dworvet-Robertson, who also wrote and showran the new Fallout series. He really loves to say yes to anything bad he's in, doesn't he?

That new house ain't gonna pay itself and he gets to do fun stuff I can't blame him.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Watched episode 3 before turning off for the night, I have some thoughts.

Show is not great, I still am enjoying Goggins everytime hes on screen but the other side plots kinda suck.

-The Vault 33 residents have a meeting to discuss their prisoners and I did laugh when they started to suggest teaching the raiders Shakespeare and the brother character says, "why dont we just kill them?"

-I hate the BoS plot. Maximus actor is atrocious, and his stuff feels the most "Marvel" out of the entire show. They turned T-60 power armor into an Iron Man suit and it just bothers me. Jetpacks were in 4 and 76, but in those games they were more like jump packs, letting you traverse vertically easier but thats about it. They are clearly setting him up to be the love interest all from him just seeing pretty lady doing nice thing. Give us a Paladin Danse character next time, guy with a weird past but stoic in the horrors of the wastes.

-Also it shows this western brotherhood taking orders from the Commonwealth, wasnt there a schism? Why take orders from the Lyons chapter at all? I know lore doesnt really matter in the show to the writers but why include that line?

-The Gulper is not accurate and I hate it. Ive killed a million of these things in 76, why is this one part human.

-The constant environment jumps are really annoying. Lush forest -> shanty town -> desert -> swamp. Theres no sense of scale or distance in anything. The characters just jump around as the plot dictates.

-The brand new 2x4 wood will always bug me, some of the sets look decent, others look out of place in a Fallout universe

-Junk jet has shown up multiple times, maybe show us a Fat Man, Plasma Caster, or any iconic weapon thats not FO4 slop.

Rambling aside I think its a pretty middling show, just glad copies were available online day one so I didnt have to buy it. Cut the Brotherhood out and I think it would be a whole lot better.

the BOS in 4 are explicitly said to have gotten into contact with the west coast again, and Arthur Maxson is the High Elder, by technicality. if they're done pacifying the commonwealth, it could be that the journey west just isn't worth it, even with the prydwen.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

The virgin Amazon Fallout dialogue

Vs

The Chad gay porno

What an embarrassing show.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

until the show kept bringing up 50's racial issues like that one black dude getting punched out in the first episode to keep him from entering the bunker or that Indian actor only getting cast in racist parts

The black dude getting punched was due to him trying to enter that family’s bunker. It wasn’t racist but rather selfish, meant to highlight how friends immediately become enemies when the world is ending.

The Indian typecast thing has always been an issue with Westerns. We saw what happened when Johnny Depp played Tanto.

It also feels like turning Vault-Tech into a Machiavellian organization who started the apocalypse intentionally, and keep nuking any attempts to establish a civilization not led by them, is Bethesda just trying to set up a reason for it always to look like the bombs dropped twenty minutes ago for all future installments of the series. But, then again, they probably aren't that clever either.

I think an easy way to retcon Vault-Tex’s nuking of Shady Sands is to make it a policy exclusive to Bud’s Buds experiment and the Los Angeles area.

A friend of mine pointed out that the nuclear detentions in the first episode were ground detentions, meaning that they were rigged to explode. Also recall that the Master somehow had an atomic bomb underground in the Cathedral.

The bomb that destroyed Shady Sands could have been a leftover bomb that Vault-Tec planned to detonate.

 

[Willie B. Hardigan]

The first Fallout movie script from 1998 literally had its main plot twist be that the creator of the vaults launched a nuke at one of them to test the results. And the nuke launch was detected and misinterpreted by other countries as being hostile and it inadvertently caused the Great War. All other countries began launching their nukes in response and it escalated into a full fledged worldwide apocalyptic event.

Now that's actually a good explanation for how the Great War happened which implicates Vault Tek but without making them brain-dead evil. I might have to steal that as my personal lore reasoning.

No, the reason why I always thought Vault Tec might be complicit in the Great War is it makes little sense for them to set up all those experiments (and control vaults), with no desire for the experiments to be actually run. I don't know if you can really say nobody wanted the Great War to happen.

That's the thing though, the Vaults and "Project Safehouse, even if they were initially created to serve as bunkers to preserve humanity after the Resource Wars started to engulf the planet, were quickly co-opted to serve as platforms for large-scale human experimentation by the Enclave to collect data so that they could create a multi-generational starship to leave Earth. A majority of their funding was put towards furthering this goal rather than constructing real sustainable nuclear bunkers as shown by the high number of failed Vaults in the games. There was never the idea of "getting a return on their investment" since their real purpose was never to actually preserve the population of Pre-War America. They were there to run tests for as long as they could unimpeded. Why then would the Enclave and their sub-division of Vault Tek intentionally trigger the Great War before the colony ship had even started construction? They essentially sent themselves back hundreds of years by doing so when it would have been much better for them to get as much work done as possible before the United States or China finally pulled the trigger in desperation. That's if they decided to do so or could do so because both of them collapsing before then was also very possible. I could see them doing that after said ship was finished as a final fuck you but definitely not before then.

That's why the idea of anybody intentionally starting the Nuclear Holocaust always seemed far-fetched to me even within the context of the crazy and satirical Fallout universe. It went against the plans and wishes of so many groups of people that technical error or miscommunication was the only real explanation. This ties into my previous post where the "why" never really mattered in the original games but Fallout 4, 76, and now this series decided to position Vault Tek as a separate super entity beyond the control of the Enclave which still somehow exists since they need a new all-encompassing bad guy now that the Enclave has been mostly destroyed. It's just dumb contrived writing in my opinion.

Apologies for my lore sperging, I've had the unfortunate faith of playing the original games as a young man which has probably jumbled my neurons quite a bit. At least enough to give this much thought into a series with anal-fisting robots and giant monster men. It's best for me and probably a lot of other people to go back to forgetting anything Fallout-related made after 2015 exists and pretend the series was abandoned because it kinda was in some strange Bethesda-style way.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

That's why the idea of anybody intentionally starting the Nuclear Holocaust always seemed far-fetched to me even within the context of the crazy and satirical Fallout universe.

i mean i know the enclave isn't the most reliable source out there, but Dick Richardson in 2 straight up says the Chinese launched first, and it's obvious they expected the great war to happen any time. people like House were taking preparations already, the Enclave had multiple contingencies set up for where people would be going, and the president was on an oil rig off the coast of san francisco 10 months before the end of the world. the US was actively about to capture Beijing as the power armor units moved from Alaska to the Chinese mainland, which was the main reason they started using T-51b suits, as the T-45d suits would "get bogged down on the mainland."

i feel like it's pretty obvious that the Chinese got desperate as the Americans were bringing the war closer and closer to the seat of power for the ruling party in China, launched because they had nothing to lose, and the rest, as they say... is history.