Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

i have studied a lot of neuroscience for my degree and basically lysergic acid works like serotonin and shuts down a part of the brain called the default mode network, which to oversimplify controls a lot of the preconceived notions of self and how the self can empathize and rate to others

LSD turning off the DMN and claustrom, part of the brain that acts as a circuit board for neurons, and rewiring neuron pathways is what hypothetically would cause the troonism

as someone who had to get off of weed and all drugs from having a psychotic episode amd health scares from super high potency THC, i can attest to the fact that super high potency wax and vapes are far worse than natural leaf that may have been available 50 years ago
Reminds me of the fact that zoos are now being told to cut fruits out of the diets of many herbavores that would primarily eat fruit, like monkeys, because the high sugar content from selective breeding was making them fat/causing cavities.
Truly, GMO's are our greatest accomplishment, but also biggest failure.
 
drugs + autism are a common theme with troons I have noticed

i really do not want to powerlevel, but my one IRL friend's uncle became a tranny bodybuilder after taking too much trenbolone and losing his marbles from steroid psychosis


my other old best friend discovered gender after abusing THC and psychedelics and to this day i lament what happened to him


i watched a schizo documentary The Net about an event known as the macy conferences which and how frankfurt marxists like adorno were hired by the cia for "cybernetics" and mind control purposes, and determined that LSD was suitable for making people intrinsically less fascistic, and after the LSD experiments at Harvard Ted Kaczynski DID in fact have a trans phase

i have noticed A LOT of troons who learned the meaning of gender after taking acid and it seems absolutely fucking batshit to postulate the idea that frankfurt marxists helped MKultra and a side effect of reprogramming them with LSD is gender but seeing so many people I know drop acid and going trans has made me almost believe it

like this one who took acid and transitioned and began talking about feeling "as one with the bacteria in his colon"
Due to an obsession with having irrefutable evidence to "prove" I was a pooner, I used to do constant research on how people discovered they were transgender. Quite a few of them mentioned things like LSD, mushrooms, and ketamine as driving factors. They all described it as letting them look into their "true selves", and that their true self was the image of a woman or pink or whatever the fuck. I'm no expert on the subject of neuroscience but I find that fascinating. I've read shrooms and ketamine can be very useful for PTSD patients, and they very well may be, but I've noticed troons (ab)use them with crooked intentions to fuel their delusions.

I'm surprised abuse of ketamine was so common, though. I don't think it was among pooners, but trannies in particular would brag about using it to dissociate and get a break from dysphoria for a while, I guess. Mental illness and all. The ones I knew personally didn't do any of that to my knowledge, but it's terribly easy to find posts about it on social media.
 
I'm surprised abuse of ketamine was so common, though. I don't think it was among pooners, but trannies in particular would brag about using it to dissociate and get a break from dysphoria for a while, I guess. Mental illness and all. The ones I knew personally didn't do any of that to my knowledge, but it's terribly easy to find posts about it on social media.
Ketamine went from nothing to "give it out like candy." It's supposed to be for severe pain and as a last resort for treating depression before icepicks. In practice ketamine has replaced opiods as a continuing revenue stream from patients and insurance companies to doctor's pockets.
 
Update: my little brother is now attempting to gaslight me. Apparently according to him my brother left before any violence occurred. Despite my older brother openly admitting to it in a prior screenshot. I guess my entire family is this fucked up.
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I'm so sorry. It's hard to be so alone, it's hard to deal with cruel close family. I'm not going to give you some bullshit about how "it'll make you stronger in the end", because it just plain sucks. For what it's worth I think you're very strong for dealing with all this and the death of your father mostly alone. At this point you don't owe any of them anything, and you should think only of what makes you happiest.
 
Ketamine went from nothing to "give it out like candy." It's supposed to be for severe pain and as a last resort for treating depression before icepicks. In practice ketamine has replaced opiods as a continuing revenue stream from patients and insurance companies to doctor's pockets.
Ketamine is a powerful fucking drug that will send you into a disassociated episode. Some idiots see it as spiritual.


I have done acid once, it was fucking gay but for someone a lot less secure in their beliefs it will "reprogram" them.

My username is pure shitpost and I am very anti-drug now, but drugs like DPH and DXM are just as powerful if not worse than Ketamine. DXM is basically the same as Ketamine from what I have been told.

DPH(fucking benadryl) is basically synthetic Datura that will give you brain damage and make you talk to shadow people and any teenager can get it and abuse it.
 
I'm so sorry. It's hard to be so alone, it's hard to deal with cruel close family. I'm not going to give you some bullshit about how "it'll make you stronger in the end", because it just plain sucks. For what it's worth I think you're very strong for dealing with all this and the death of your father mostly alone. At this point you don't owe any of them anything, and you should think only of what makes you happiest.
Thank you for hearing me out. It does get hard during big moments like recently but I do believe these things prepare us and strengthen us in ways many can't understand. It does suck but it helps alot being able to talk about it here and with other sane people irl/elsewhere.
Also I know kiwifarms isn't a friend making website but if any evil twansphobes want to be friends it would be appreciated right now especially, or even just a chit chat/friendly conversation to distract me from all this mess. It would be much appreciated
 
Thank you for hearing me out. It does get hard during big moments like recently but I do believe these things prepare us and strengthen us in ways many can't understand. It does suck but it helps alot being able to talk about it here and with other sane people irl/elsewhere.
Also I know kiwifarms isn't a friend making website but if any evil twansphobes want to be friends it would be appreciated right now especially, or even just a chit chat/friendly conversation to distract me from all this mess. It would be much appreciated
Actually, I think the people here are more level-headed and friendlier in general than in many other places. Spergs will get neg-rated and called out so they generally do not stick around for very long, and while you get the same tard meltdowns on here that you see everywhere else, they generally occur in the politisperging threads which you can easily avoid. Kiwi Farms does not deserve its reputation for being a "wretched hive of scum and villainy", just that outsiders and normies hate us for our honesty and pro-free speech stance, especially when it comes to troons and pooners.

Making fun of the "trans" phenomenon is good fun and all from a distance, but it is never easy watching it happen with friends and family members as then it just becomes awkward and depressing. Once people start going down this path, there is often no going back and there are legions of trans-cheerleaders on social media and transition-pushers in the mental health and medical communities to egg them on all along the way.
 
I used to take acid, nothing like this ever happened to me or anyone else I knew who took it lmao. But I could see it bringing out depravity in those who are mentally unwell.

yeah its not an absolute that it will make you go trans but i have noticed a trend

sometimes acid makes people more racist than liberal and sometimes it creates total hippies or hardly changes people like in my case

 
yeah its not an absolute that it will make you go trans but i have noticed a trend

sometimes acid makes people more racist than liberal and sometimes it creates total hippies or hardly changes people like in my case

I had a hallucinogen phase in college. LSD, shrooms, DMT, salvia, whatever.

I think the most crucial thing that they show you is how malleable your perception of reality is. Some take that information and show skepticism going forward for the rest of their lives, knowing that their thoughts and feelings are fleeting and sensory based. Some take that information and think that they have been shown some inalienable truth, and now the world is clear to them, and they know exactly what they need to.

In this sense, whatever preconceived notions about their identity can be confirmed by what is literally a hallucination. And interestingly enough, given the light psychedelic effects of cannabis, and given that every tranny I know is a pothead... it sure makes me think.
 
I live in eastern Europe, so I guess the situation is not as bad here, still I've had the misfortune of having to interact with a few trains and two people in particular bother me, though for completely different reasons.

The less bad one is that recently I got a new job and now share an office with a MtF troon. Being slavic means that we use a gendered language. So far I've been able to avoid having to decide between keeping a job I really like and having to pussy out and call him a "she". But I don't think I can hide my power level forever lol. I'd like to think that I'll stand my ground on this when an issue inevitably arises, but only time will tell.

Much worse is the situation with my little sister.

Our parents got divorced when we were kids. Shit was awful − mom is deeply religous, so she wouldn't accept it for the longest time and that basically made her a nervous wreck. For several years I avoided coming home and got away any chance I could because all that would be waiting for me there was mom either crying or yelling at us or most often both. Didn't help that dad went full retard, gave mom as little money as he legally could to the point where, if some family and friends haven't significantly helped us financially we would have nothing to eat until every other weekend when he would pick us up.

At least I got to have a great joyful childhood until then, but my little sister pretty much never knew anything else, until about 3 years back when things improved a lot.

We each acomodated differently. My response was gradually becoming emotionless and apathetic, hers was plunging into serious depression and eventually I guess seeking validation in the train stuff. For two years she would be basically locked in her room, sleeping most of the day. Somewhere along the line she cut her hair, colored it black and began calling herself Alex.

She knew that mom and I wouldn't support her in it, so she didn't even ask us to call her a "he". Dad is more accomodating, but he told me that he doesn't care for it either and hopes it passes.

She wanted to get hormones, so she went to a therapist who, in an unexpected moment of reason, told her, that she's clinically depressed and that it won't happen until she manages to overcome that.

In the last year she's been doing a lot better. I like to think that I contributed to that somewhat by making sure that I would have a chill evening talk with her about music, school, life and whatever whenever I show at home and generally just being a good older brother. She also became interested in art and frequents some ponzi-scheme self improvement events. They talk a lot about being in control of your life, money and such, which − while in the way they do it is extremely slimey and frankly cringe inducing − seems to have worked miracles for her.

So yeah, we're all pretty hopeful for her. The dumb talk about hormones stopped, which must be a good sign at least. I just worry that the whole thing will leave a mark on my youngest sister (6yo). She already knows to call the older-younger sister by her real name when she's angry at her and vice-versa lol
 
If not outright pooning/trooning/cooming/gooning themselves, a lot of gays are just blindly supportive. It's difficult to know who you can trust.
That's probably one of the most depressing aspects of it all, on top of troons also infesting every possible hobby space. I don't mind batshit content, but unfortunately, too many people can't balance fantasy and reality and end up assuming that they must openly live out whatever they're fixated on at the moment.
And as for LGB people being blindly pro-trans, I genuinely don't get what's up with that at this point. I am bi, and to be completely honest, live with a man for a decade and don't plan on dating women, so it may not seem like a big deal. But trauma I went through as a SSA person falls under homophobia. You know, something that affects homosexual behavior and desire. Not homogenderal. Ending up with an opposite sex partner doesn't heal anything, because ability to be attracted to the opposite sex doesn't take away experiences I got as someone attracted to the same sex. Said trauma was one of central things that fucked me up as a whole, but there's virtually no place I can talk about it. I live in an actual homophobic place, and while we have a lot of "sane" young people, said "sane" people also support troonyism and pretty much every Western brainworm infection you can think of. Now, currently they are relatively tame, and I also think legal status of LGBT activism makes these people a bit more humble, but it's all just a matter of time until this becomes mainstream. I already see your typical xenogender cancer coming from people in their 20s-30s.
Oh, the irony of these people talking about importance of mental health.* I can't even talk about major aspect of mine without walking on eggshells. I do feel better now overall now that I have actually addressed my dysphoria, but I can't even admit it to them, if/when they ask. I can't tell them that I want to heal my struggles related to being attracted to the same sex. I can't tell them I work(ed) on my gender dysphoria stemming from sexism and homophobia that are directly tied to what set of chromosomes I was conceived as and everything that followed that, from the shape of my body to medical differences, from social expectations to cultural perceptions.
Thankfully (?) I'm weird enough to blend well among them, I'm gendie passing if you will, kek. But it's devastating and I think at this point I'm mad at LGB people who support this the most. I get homophobes and misogynists, they outright say they hate you. SSA people on the other hand? Y'all are supposed to be on my side and being an outcast among your own is thousand times worse than being hated by, essentially, the whole world. That, probably, what real betrayal is.

*Who am I kidding, their "mental health care" is to self-diagnose, rot, and then call results of their own self-destructive choices "ableism".
Still bothers me when I see misandry to an extent, but its also a little easier to understand.
It's alright; trauma is trauma. What matters is that you are consciously aware that there's more to something.

Sorry for derailing, but it's another thing that makes my blood boil about pro-mental health genderonis: their inability to accept that trauma is subjective and essentially may not make sense to everyone. "Get over your trauma of dicks you stupid dyke, it's transphobic!" Trauma is not political, even when it overlaps with political activity.
Later on, they continued to target my insecurities as proof I must be transgender. I believed it because I was stupid and not mentally well.
Amazing how many of us are there. My insecurities that manifested into self-hatred, dysphoria and dysmorphia were also called a proof of me being akshully male inside. I got emotionally taken advantage of when I was at my lowest, too.
drugs + autism are a common theme with troons I have noticed
I think I mentioned this in another post of mine, but I'll type it out again: while I have nothing to say on autism (other than, maybe, autistic people are gullible when it comes to interpersonal behavior), I do genuinely believe that drugs are common among trans people specifically because transgenderism itself is a drug addiction based philosophy.
Yes, sounds completely batshit, considering that the basis for transgender identity is not falling under cultural expectations of your sex, but I think it long evolved past that.

Dysphoric and/or self-hating people are, by definition, mentally ill, because neither is healthy. Drugs were and still are the main coping mechanism for mental illness. And I do count prescription meds here as well, psychiatrists overprescribe a huge bunch of meds that fuck up your whole brain, instead of offering therapy and support, which in most cases would have helped. (Side note, but it's from my experience and what I have been observing: majority of people with severe diagnoses are actually traumatized or, at worst, having unresolved psychological issues, poor discipline, poor stress management skills, etc. Read, by labeling them (us?) bpd npd bipolar schizo ocd autists instead of actually helping them manage their life and mental state, big pharma sells what essentially are hardcore psychoactive drugs. I suspect it's another way to make people too retarded to think for themselves and be as gullible as possible.)
I think it's safe to assume that transitioners are, most likely, drug addicts. They take steroids which alter your psyche, on top of also being, most likely, prescribed a bunch of meds to manage a laundry list of disorders they have been diagnosed with. Long are gone days when psychiatrists would diagnose people in good faith, a lot go with self-diagnoser's logic and slap whatever they can think of, to sell more stupid and create a patient for life. Drug addiction makes it all worse, but they believe it's going to get fixed with even more drugs. A lot of those who went through surgery talk about being on opioids as well for pain management, which is suspected to be the reason for initial "trans joy" after they get a surgery. It's not gender euphoria, it's them being high.

And them being high is essentially what this is all about. They enjoy gender euphoria and mistake being high as happiness. When that doesn't work, they go for psych meds and/or HRT, expecting the euphoria to hit again. When it doesn't work anymore, they assume they haven't done enough. It's a never ending cycle of self-destruction and drug addiction.
Also, while it is also something coming from my experience, I think it's worth noting that this "crashing" state one comes to after being high or manic/hypomanic, isn't supposed to be a fully blown affective depression episode. To some, it's a marker of bipolar or borderline diagnosis. And while it may be true and doesn't necessarily cancel the diagnosis, it still is primarily a marker of how stable, happy, and self-sufficient the person actually is. And trans people are literally running away from who they actually are. If you feel like you want to kill yourself and your whole life is a mistake, it's not a sign to take more drugs to suppress the feeling or to chase euphoria once again, it's a sign to stop and think what are you really doing with yourself, think about your choices, think about what you actually think of yourself and where it comes from. And actually work on it, not deny, not avoid, not bitch about how offensive or "invalidating" it all sounds.
Barely any trans person does that. Euphoria and dysphoria (general dysphoria, I mean the affective unhappiness here) are both addictive, psych drugs are addictive, HRT is addictive, all that shit is mind changing, and it takes actual courage and internal freedom to admit, "yeah, maybe I'm a retard and all these people telling me to stop were right". Most people, trans or not, aren't free. They're slaves of their own minds and current MeNtAl HeaLth and tranny trends actively enable this shit. I fucking know this first hand and I will give myself credit for getting out before it was too late.

I tend to call these things demonic and satanic as a joke, but now I'm not really sure anymore. Maybe not in a boomer satanic panic way (which arguably was also a case of mass psychosis, just like genderism is), but after going deep into religions after being 2edgy4u fedora atheist, I'm starting to realize that while not everything may be correct about assumptions people made throughout the history, humanity already knew from ancient times what's generally up. I'm seeing patterns in beliefs and practices, and it makes me think that maybe an egregore of "satan"/"demon" is real. Maybe there truly is actual evil in this world and we're watching it manifesting once again in its current form, it's just traditionally we made sense of this energy as a sensory imagery that is easy to digest by our animal body and mind (images of demons seem to have common tropes all around the globe). But I'm derailing at this point.
DPH(fucking benadryl) is basically synthetic Datura that will give you brain damage and make you talk to shadow people and any teenager can get it and abuse it.
It still amazes me that this shit is legal. It's not available here over the counter, but possible to buy through services that let you buy supplements from America. What is even the point of it being legal when there are much safer, effective anti-allergy drugs, like loratadine or cetirizine?
Also I know kiwifarms isn't a friend making website but if any evil twansphobes want to be friends it would be appreciated right now especially, or even just a chit chat/friendly conversation to distract me from all this mess. It would be much appreciated
Sure, if you want to. Everyone else is free to DM me as well.

I find it funny that a forum made by retards to laugh at other retards became essentially the last place where I feel free and can find an actual diversity of humans, including said retards (myself included of course), and people overall respect each other and have productive discussions where one can learn something from. KF is more diverse than your """inclusive uwu""" spaces and what's even more absurd to me is that I learned more about nerdy, unconvenient, cringe interests and hobbies on here more than in incwuzive fpaces. Maybe ability to laugh at yourself and not take your craziness too seriously is what actually liberates the soul and provides actual stability in said cringe interests and behaviors. Not the "boo hoo cringe is dead, be super defensive and insecure about your antics and threat sewer slide over minor inconveniences!" What truly makes a lolcow is the behavior, not eccentricity as a whole (minus maybe something absolutely extreme and insane that deems someone a horrorcow, but it's relatively rare). In fact, a lot of weirdos are inspiring as fuck, when they persist in their weirdness and stay aware of it. "Cringecultureisdead" crowd, which also massively overlaps with trannies, will never achieve this though. They can't figure out what exactly makes them a laughing stock, so they keep on living like:

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Two years since my sister came out as a true and honest man and she's somehow even less happy than ever. But she's successfully terrorized my mom, and sadly me, into 'affirming' her by calling her neutral pronouns. Because otherwise she will throw a tantrum worthy of a two year old, refuse to do anything and be that pissed for days.

That's another fun thing about pooning. What happens when you take a moody, depressed and stubborn person and give them boatloads of test? Fucking roid rage. She's always in a bad mood, unless she's either A) high or B) playing the gayest sounding session of D&D possible with her gay little friends. Everything in both her life and theirs is about how trans and gay they are. Everything.
 
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Because otherwise she will throw a tantrum worthy of a two year old, refuse to do anything and be that pissed for days.
with toddlers the way you deal w/their tantrums is to be more patient than they are. it cannot go on forever bc no one has that much energy.

what you're describing is a lot like what people go through when a sibling becomes a drug addict. they want to do their one favorite thing all the time and will make people lie, demand enabling, etc from family members. its worth talking to other people in the house about how this is going to go down eventually, you could show them the horrors of the SRS thread and say "this is where this leads". I don't know what the right thing to do is but your mom should be made aware of what she is enabling.

Anyway.

I came to this thread because I'm frustrated w/thinking about a relative that dropped out of family life for extremely stupid reasons, and in the mean time became an ENBY and so if I want to speak to this person again I am going to be expected to use "they/them" in order to do so. its bullshit. this ho didn't even "come out" to any of the people she went no contact with and we are still all subject to this crap because she got other family members to communicate this. It only goes one way though, messages won't be passed back. There is not a single troon or enby on earth with a normal adult level of maturity, not a single one. they're all like retarded middle schoolers with no real reason to grow up since being a tranny in certain locales means you get whatever you ask for.
 
Everything in both her life and theirs is about how trans and gay they are. Everything.
At the end of our time together, this is all my cousin would talk about. Everything had to be about being a girl now. How he cant live in most of the country because its "illegal to exist" for him
Shark plushies, his trans "girl"friend, the spaces they hang out in.
He also has a gay brother, who came out like 10 years ago. Well, turns out that him being trans means his brother is no longer the special one. Now theres a TRANS in the family so everyone dropped support for the faggot and i can tell it pisses him off.
Personally, I wont be interacting with that side of the family anymore. Just my dad.
 
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