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i came here to post this, but you beat me to it.
i dont recall south park getting sued by mel gibson

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Comedy Central made a calculated risk giving South Park the freedom they have in publishing that stuff and the money they'll generate from it to defend any action. That and the fact that the targets of those jokes would be self-harming their own reputations further by pursuing legal action. Steam wants nothing to do with that risk or any negative attention they might get from this type of harrassment. How hard is that to understand?

TLDR: DSP is a piece of shit but you guys are bigger pieces of shit.
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Jesus you people are retarded. It is possible for multiple things to be true at the same time you know.

i dont recall south park getting sued by mel gibson
Mel Gibson has a sense of humor.

Steam is not willing to accept the legal risk for the potential multi-cent profit they might make from this production. Comedy Central with South Park, on the other hand....
 
Don't forget that in stick of truth you can get plastic surgery to have the hoffs face
Even more than that.

You get an achievement for beating Nazi Zombie Kenny with the Hoff Face.

You also get an achievement for beating Nazi Zombie Kenny while wearing the drag disguise you used earlier in the game to sneak into the abortion clinic.

While the Hoff head overrides whatever head gear the player has equipped, it does NOT override the body armor. Meaning you can beat the game as Hoff in drag and get both achievements simultaneously.
 
No way Phil is smart enough to figure out how to submit a copyright claim through Steam and no way Steam Support would actually take his whining seriously. Every attempt to silence his trolls on Youtube has always failed because of hydra logic. There's just no way to nuke them all without 10 more springing up.

Until I see a physical report from the developers saying they got a takedown notice from Valve or whatever I am running under the theory this was all an elaborate grift to get some neet bucks from a few retarded detractors and they took the game down themselves to avoid refunds.

"Thanks for the money, dummies."
 
Well at least this is something interesting happening in the goutsphere.

I would argue that this game falls under fair use, as it is a parody obviously, and it takes liberties, but I think because the creator is making money off Phil's likeness, that might be where the issue is. I could be wrong, I don't know anything about copyright law and where lines are drawn.
Isn't there an 8-bit version of Phil wearing that retarded sonic hat? It's on his business cards and shit. Just use that.

Outside of this, though two things are gonna happen because of this take down:
  1. Obvious Streisand Effect. I'll take the late on this one, but I was so busy with work that I didn't even know this game was being made, and I'm sure there are people within the goutsphere that weren't even gonna pick this game up. But now that DSP spent so much effort taking it down, it's just going to draw more attention to the game, and detractors are jsut going to get it because they know it fucks with Phil.

  2. The same song and dance that happens when DSP takes ANYTHING down: some dent will mention it on his sham of a podcast, Phil will say that he didn't do it (because either he's lying or one of his dented capos did it) and cover his ass. Honestly if he did do it, he could have just streamed it. Dude talked about how he takes shit too serious on the Side Scrollers podcast and that he'd "change," but this just shows that he's still as soft as baby shit. If he DID take it down, it just means what we already know: that DSP is a blackhole of unfun that can't take a fucking joke and misses out on opportunities to make money. Motherfucker could have streamed it and made money off it, but his ego wouldn't allow that.

  3. Detractors find different ways to distribute the game. The dev can just change DSP's face, make a website where you can download it or put it up on itch.io, charge next to nothing for it, then take donations on top of that. There's really nothing stopping the dev from distributing the game outside of Steam, tbh, so if it was DSP who took the game down, then this is a short term issue. If it wasn't and it was some retarded denthead like Superhound, then all it's gonna do is send heat Phil's way.
I feel like Phil missed out on an opportunity. There's nothing that will ever earn Phil the goodwill necessary to undo over 16 years of his dogshit personality and childish behavior, but he could have used that opportunity to one-up detractors for once. Making money off of a game meant to troll him would have been a win in his book, I feel, but now that opportunity is lost, either because Phil is a thin-skinned bitch, or Superhound or some other dent is desperate to whiteknight Phil.

I don't know who took the game down, but it's a fat fucking L for either DSP or the denthead.
 
I am genuinely surprised anybody here supports this game getting taken down for copyright violations. Very clearly fair use / parody. Nobody is forcing you to play the game or pay money for it. It’s a rather innocent joke project; imagine white knighting for Phil of all people because he got a video game made about him parodying his existence that repurposes and transposes, god forbid, IMAGES of and AUDIO of The Guy. Fagified L take, embarrassing really.
LOL nobody is supporting it, just explaining how retarded the devs are for using pictures of Phil face instead of an animated version of it and to top it off, charge for it.

The only baffling thing here is how people are thinking they could or should get away with any of these in the first place. If you are going to make a parody of someone using his actual picture, keep that shit free so you can argue it's just a parody, freedom of speech, freedom of press or whatever other similar shit. If you put a price on it, never use pictures of anyone, change people names and locations and add the good old fictitious disclaimer.

It's not rocket science to understand that Steam or any other company rather not deal with copyright issues and just play it safe.

Nobody likes DSP but that doesn't makes his trolls saints or geniuses lol, these devs screwed up, but I'm sure they'll learn from this and move on.
 
I feel like Phil missed out on an opportunity. There's nothing that will ever earn Phil the goodwill necessary to undo over 16 years of his dogshit personality and childish behavior, but he could have used that opportunity to one-up detractors for once. Making money off of a game meant to troll him would have been a win in his book
Kat is literally crying downstairs because of this game!

Jokes aside, you are 100% right. He would have made bank had he just swallowed his pride and had fun with it. Instead he is throwing himself into unnecessary drama... Nevermind I just figured it out. He is manufacturing drama (not a drama streamer by the way) to hopefully (and most likely) make bank from that and milk extra views, except not at the expense of his pride.
 
The only baffling thing here is how people are thinking they could or should get away with any of these in the first place.
You lost me on the word "should". Ofc they should be able to do that, copyright is gay asf. 👇
Any injection of law into the conversation makes it gay and unfunny. Copyright by itself is gay and unfunny anyway
Whether they "could" get away with it is still to be seen. The dev probably has some sort of recourse. If steam is anything like YouTube they can file a counter claim, but I don't know anything about that though so correct me if I'm wrong here.
 
I wonder if he's gonna admit he flagged it down? Probably not though he's to scared to do that he probably won't even mention it.
 
LOL nobody is supporting it, just explaining how retarded the devs are for using pictures of Phil face instead of an animated version of it and to top it off, charge for it.

The only baffling thing here is how people are thinking they could or should get away with any of these in the first place. If you are going to make a parody of someone using his actual picture, keep that shit free so you can argue it's just a parody, freedom of speech, freedom of press or whatever other similar shit. If you put a price on it, never use pictures of anyone, change people names and locations and add the good old fictitious disclaimer.

It's not rocket science to understand that Steam or any other company rather not deal with copyright issues and just play it safe.

Nobody likes DSP but that doesn't makes his trolls saints or geniuses lol, these devs screwed up, but I'm sure they'll learn from this and move on.
Good point, that’s probably why Weird Al does all those free concerts and album releases. It’s like saying in order for his arrangements to be considered legally protected parody he would need to change the instrumentation so nobody could confuse the parody track with the real track, even though the changes and melodies would all remain the same. In reality, he tries to recreate the original track as faithfully as he can, and somehow managed to remain protected legally [hecantkeepgettingawaywithit.gif]

Do you think the result would have been any different had they used original pixel art sprites rather than a slightly modified picture of Phil? It is 100% getting DMCA’d and removed either way. I’m not a copyright expert so I will concede my take could be wrong, but I really don’t think this thing lives and dies by the fact that it used (altered) images and audio sourced from DSP himself, being that it has been modified and repurposed. At the end of the day, the way DSP in the game is presented is clearly exaggerated, and is not how DSP attempts to present himself on his stream. In no way would somebody say that it attempts to infringe on his image or branding as the parody goes against what DSP believes himself to represent.

Also you can’t really say “I don’t support what happened” and in the next breath say “it’s baffling thinking the devs could or should be able to get away with this”. If you don’t think the devs had a legitimate leg to stand on then by extension you should support the contents removal, as the DMCA claim would then have been done in good faith by that logic.
 
There is no “copyright claim” here, and seeing as Phil is a public figure, he doesn’t legally have a pot to piss in.

Steam likely went “ok sure!” Because it’s their go to response.

Once it has been reviewed, I’ll bet you that the game will be back up.

(Or they can sell the game on other platforms.)

Phil’s seething when he talks about how they’re “earning money through attacking him and his family” is going to be yummy.

As will his cope about how “small guys like me are just screwed” and how there’s “nothing he can do!” Lawyers cost Mooney dood, so please contribute!


ust explaining how retarded the devs are for using pictures of Phil face instead of an animated version of it and to top it off, charge for it.

Phil doesn’t have some kind of exclusive license to his likeness.

Fact: Yes you can take pictures of people in public. No you don’t need to ask them. Yes you can even monetize it.

On top of that, Phil streams on YouTube, which means that he has already signed away any kind of rights he may have had.

Plus he’s a public figure, which arguably makes him fair game.

Whether they "could" get away with it is still to be seen. The dev probably has some sort of recourse. If steam is anything like YouTube they can file a counter claim, but I don't know anything about that though so correct me if I'm wrong here.

Phil probably falseflagged them for something.

Like for example it’s common on Steam to steal asset packs, rename them and sell them.

But it’ll be back once Steam clarifies things and the fact that they didn’t “steal” anything from Phil.He’s
 
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LOL nobody is supporting it, just explaining how retarded the devs are for using pictures of Phil face instead of an animated version of it and to top it off, charge for it.

The only baffling thing here is how people are thinking they could or should get away with any of these in the first place. If you are going to make a parody of someone using his actual picture, keep that shit free so you can argue it's just a parody, freedom of speech, freedom of press or whatever other similar shit. If you put a price on it, never use pictures of anyone, change people names and locations and add the good old fictitious disclaimer.

It's not rocket science to understand that Steam or any other company rather not deal with copyright issues and just play it safe.

Nobody likes DSP but that doesn't makes his trolls saints or geniuses lol, these devs screwed up, but I'm sure they'll learn from this and move on.
Reminder several pages ago someone suggested replacing Phil's face with a pig's.

Literally the best fucking idea ever and the devs should've absolutely taken advantage of that obviously, but didn't.
 
I've played the game and I guess the issue is that some of the stuff is transformative, and some is not.

e.g. The places that use Phil's face are generally transformative in the same way the south park faces are transformative.

However,
a) The game features a lot of direct sound clips from the DSP stream
b) The picture match puzzle and the camp scene contain pictures of the stream with no transformation.

I would argue that the South-park like use of Phil's likeness for the boss etc. flies. I am not so sure about using his voice in the game, but don't even know what the precedent is for that. There are cut-scenes that are literally just DSP talking as he does on the stream.
 
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