Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[mindlessobserver]

About an inch or so

Has the court even docketed a formal response yet? Its hard to remember, but I don't think Null has actually responded to Russes lawsuit yet. There was just an "in the alternative" response for if the court decides to proceed past the pre-trial jurisdiction and posturing.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

but I don't think Null has actually responded to Russes lawsuit yet.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.121906/gov.uscourts.utd.121906.66.0.pdf

 

[mindlessobserver]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.121906/gov.uscourts.utd.121906.66.0.pdf

Is that actually "the response" though? I was under the impression it can't be until Russ addresses the motion to join Google and the motion for a more definitive statement. I suppose it can be if Russ deals with those two motions and the court accepts his reasoning. But if the court rules in favor of Null on either of those issues, Russ will have to rewrite his complaint and then Null will have to respond to the new complaint.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Is that actually "the response" though?

It is. The fact that a new might be possibly needed in the future doesn't change that

 

[jerkstore]

Wasn't it something ridiculous, like the Radioshack had 1, 2 and 6 inches long hdmi cables, and 6 inches wasn't long enough (judge said he needed 12)
And after he lost he went on to drink "2% whole milk".
Not making it up, if I could find a copy of the book I'd show it (the lawsuit link doesn't work )

iirc, it was 6 inches, 12 inches, and 24 inches (the other two options were definitely longer), and russell deliberately chose the shortest length having “never used an HDMI cable” in 2015.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Ok someone needs to explain HDMI deep lore what the actual fuck is going on? It’s a courtroom not a RadioShack.

This case has both gone infinitely far and nowhere at all. Even Fatricks suit against MPD has already progressed further.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Ok someone needs to explain HDMI deep lore what the actual fuck is going on? It’s a courtroom not a RadioShack.

In the book when he talks about the ariana trial, he goes to print his "evidence" last minute but they tell him they cant do it immediately. So he runs to The Source or wherever and goes to buy an HDMI cable to connect to his laptop in the courtroom. He didnt know what length he needed, so he bought the cheapest one, which ended up being the shortest. Russ claims that this HDMI cable was 6 inches, and it wasnt long enough to go to the laptop to the TV.

Also the entire incident is made up as there are no 6inch HDMI cables. Unless he confused it with a connecting cable that was HDMI at one end only

Edit: correct me if I'm wrong on any of these details. Been a while

From Russ' regular thread

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Ah that makes sense, somewhat. The shortest cable was probably six FEET and they wouldn’t let him approach the bench because back then TVs were expensive and slobbering on it would have destroyed it.

 

[Third World Aristocrat]

Oh boy, I'm kinda late, but only now I've read the Florida documents.

I don't know why, I found funny Greer referring to himself in the 3rd person just as Gollum would:

Spoiler: Greer is Gollum

"Greer needed to pay them a large sum of money" ... "Greer didn't have on him. So Greer needed time" ... "Greer was unsure" *coof coof Gollum Gollum*

(@ Document)

But the best part for me was Hardin referencing a TayTay song on one of the emails. He must've chuckled while writing that.

(@ Document)

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

RE the HDMI cable, yeah it was 6", 12", and 24" that the Radio Shack had in stock, at least according to his book. After asking to plug his laptop in, the judge (just a lawyer acting as the judge in small claims for the purposes of gaining CLE credits iirc) then told him that it needed to be at least a foot long, which was information he didn't have because he tried to call the clerk back to ask how long of a cable was actually needed but they didn't answer.

6" does seem like a preposterously short cable based on the equipment that I assume 99% of us use, but my local Radio Shack tended to stock a lot of specialty cables, they were basically never my first choice because they didn't really have standard stuff that I generally needed, but after I'd been everywhere else in town looking for something they always had the really niche thing that I needed. I don't know if this ever actually existed, it seems like something that would exist, but if you had a hi-fi cabinet with a matching blu-ray player and AVR that were designed to be stacked on top of each other, 6" would probably be long enough to chain them together without having to deal with the clutter of a longer cable in your cabinet, and then you would run a longer cable from the AVR to your display

 

[Bogliacci]

All I can say is he's gonna need a pretty long HDMI cable for it to reach to the Florida court from Vegas.

 

[Pat Fried Rice]

RE the HDMI cable, yeah it was 6", 12", and 24" that the Radio Shack had in stock, at least according to his book. After asking to plug his laptop in, the judge (just a lawyer acting as the judge in small claims for the purposes of gaining CLE credits iirc) then told him that it needed to be at least a foot long, which was information he didn't have because he tried to call the clerk back to ask how long of a cable was actually needed but they didn't answer.

6" does seem like a preposterously short cable based on the equipment that I assume 99% of us use, but my local Radio Shack tended to stock a lot of specialty cables, they were basically never my first choice because they didn't really have standard stuff that I generally needed, but after I'd been everywhere else in town looking for something they always had the really niche thing that I needed. I don't know if this ever actually existed, it seems like something that would exist, but if you had a hi-fi cabinet with a matching blu-ray player and AVR that were designed to be stacked on top of each other, 6" would probably be long enough to chain them together without having to deal with the clutter of a longer cable in your cabinet, and then you would run a longer cable from the AVR to your display

Those numbers are a bit strange, because even in 2015, the standard sizes I was aware of were the same as today (3, 6, and 10 ft.). Radio Shack did indeed stock a lot of standard and specialty cables back in the day. You are correct, 6-inch cables were usually used if you had your video source in a wall jack, or mounted to the back of the display. We had displays at one of my old jobs that had mini-PC's mounted to the backs, and we ran the local Shack out of 6-inchers when we got the initial PC shipment in.

I have no clue what possessed him to not go for the 24", but realistically I wouldn't consider anything below 6 ft. to be acceptable in the Drooling Stalkerchild's circumstance, 3 ft. if I had no other choice.

 

[ZipDisk]

I hate hayseed english, every time I read "Money he didn't have on him" I hate greer even more.

I wish Hardin had flat out said "You are not being offered a settlement. Litigate or fuck off"

 

[Harvey Danger]

I wish Hardin had flat out said "You are not being offered a settlement. Litigate or fuck off"

"But all the trivia article say 98% of suits are settled before it goes to court! You HAVE to settle, or else you're defending in bad faith and being frivolous!"

 

[Napoleon III]

This might be one of the reasons Hardin asked for a transfer to Florida. Florida tends to not allow pro se litigants electronic filings. Probably because Florida deals with a lot of pro se Bullshit. If Hardin realized this and specifically choose Florida over something like West Virginia because of this reason he is legit a genius. I grow ever more impressed by Hardin.

The amount of skill and cunning Hardin brings just to defend against a lolsuit. The craziest thing is paying for that skill and cunning is not a bad investment either.

I am fond of this one myself

The next thing will be to see how to court responds to all this. Hardin raised the temperature quite a bit, hopefully the court goes for it.

Wait... is he really emailing his motions to Hardin, expecting Hardin do the same? Give him that 'preview' before it's filed? The hell?

I think this is just a case of Greer being so petty and angry that he had to send an email about it. He doesn't even have a single iota of self control.

Fuck, man. How far away from the starting line of litigation are we, really? (And I mean we, as users of Kiwi Farms, a website.) Two district courts in two different circuits, a successful appeal, a (denied, but conferenced) petition for cert. All this for nothing about the actual merits of the case.

Well there is still some distance to go and this case is moving at a blazingly fast 0mph meaning infinite time.

 

[Star Platinum]

"But all the trivia article say 98% of suits are settled before it goes to court! You HAVE to settle, or else you're defending in bad faith and being frivolous!"

this is unironically, and tragically, how most federal courts view their cases.

 

[filthypenguin]

Wait... is he really emailing his motions to Hardin, expecting Hardin do the same? Give him that 'preview' before it's filed? The hell?

I think this is just a case of Greer being so petty and angry that he had to send an email about it. He doesn't even have a single iota of self control.

IIRC, it's a condition of filing pro se in Florida, you have to send all the motions you're planning on filing to the opposing lawyer.

 

[Napoleon III]

IIRC, it's a condition of filing pro se in Florida, you have to send all the motions you're planning on filing to the opposing lawyer.

I don't know whether this is true or not and it doesn't look like it is.

But I meant treating sending an Email to Hardin as service when Greer isn't allowed to do this, and he is supposed to use the regular mail for service.

I thought that was clear my bad.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

If Russ ends up publishing a book about this case in the vein of Why I Sued Taylor Swift, I will buy it.

He's already said "Maybe my next book will be Why I Sued a Bunch of Internet Weirdoes"

It will doubtless have more scenes established under presumption, like Attorney John Smith flipping his desk, crying and ripping his hair out when he lost the appeal, and Naught angrily raping another child while ordering another firebombing on Ken

 

[ScooterL]

I have no clue what possessed him to not go for the 24"

Nothing did, because it never happened.

In the Fox News footage of the case, the Ace Paralegal has a pile of crap on the table, but no laptop or HDMI cable in sight. The video display has no shelf a foot below. Skordas is not striking a poser's pose or skipping excitedly, and the judge never once says "Whoops, sorry, Charlie".



Russell got to state his case, and it was bullshit, so he lost.