Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Saying that I’m sure plenty of genuinely smart people fall into addiction and eating disorders.
I don't think those have anything to do with intelligence, it's a weakness of spirit (not to say the two don't often walk hand in hand). Both are an escape, either through giving up or control.
From what I've seen the best way to claim victory over either is to give yourself to God and pray for release, pray for strength, pray for the Mother to hold you. Both require humility.
I’ve said it before but I’m really looking forward to all the documentaries that’ll be made on this phenomenon.
Ditto.


I completely forgot the high IQ autist or the middle ages coomer, though from the horrors I've seen the old coomers tend to keep their pecker unless they're heavy into BDSM.

It used to be that the HSTS types were the ones to fully transition while the coomers wore panties and diddled kids. The old school HSTS types were often very passable; I'd be very interested in a study looking at hormone imbalances before any kind of medical transition, low T and higher proportion of E in the HSTS types as well as in utero E exposure of male embryos would explain why the HSTS types are so often slight of build and hyper effeminate not only in behaviour but also in vibe or energy.
I know it's not exactly scientific but the feminine energy of those old school type HSTS trannies is something that you hear from people who've interact with them. It's that thing you feel when someone walks into a room or past you, men and women have a very different energy. With trannies the AGPs it's almost oppressively male and deeply twisted in a perverse way, like a man whose given in to the most base impulses, you almost feel dirty when you see one. However the HSTS types aren't fully male, they're certainly not female either, it's also different from the gay boy energy from someone like Dylan Mulvaney. I guess it's some kind of natural eunuch vibe they give out, I'd be very interested to know if that is something hormonal.
 
It really is an interesting conundrum. I’ve seen many possible explanations offered all across the interwebs, the main thing is the vulnerable mind caused by any or all of these- Mental illness, autism, trauma, sexual dysfunction.

Intelligence seems hit and miss… some come across as intelligent enough, but the way they’ve found a comfort in literally defying nature and then defending this delusion cancels out any perceived intelligence. Unless the desire to belong is so damn strong that they can drown out their own logic? I don’t know. Saying that I’m sure plenty of genuinely smart people fall into addiction and eating disorders.

Then there’s some total drooling nitwits who are able to correctly say that no, cutting your tits off won’t make you a man, and taking hrt will not change your sex.

I’ve said it before but I’m really looking forward to all the documentaries that’ll be made on this phenomenon.
Midwittery explains so much. These people are smart enough that, with concerted effort, they can tackle complex problems, work in professional fields, and even juggle dissonant ideas through ideological sleight of hand.

They're not smart enough to examine these issues and resolve the cognitive dissonance so they handwave it away.
 
I'd think a sub-normal IQ and srs go together just like trooning out and being a midwit.
I disagree, although the research on MtFs is such poor quality (because the people doing it mostly are trans, or at least 100% in the tank for gender ideology) that I think we are mostly limited to anecdotes and case studies as they're documented here on the Kiwi (and elsewhere.)
Ironically enough, from who I know, the cult took by now 3 different men who did not know each other. Those graduated difficult high schools and got a real uni degree in useful fields and have good paying jobs. Afaik, they just thought they aren't gonna be the unfortunate ones and will get the perfect porn cunt, also they convinced themselves (with the help of their mental illness and possibly their HRT) at the time, that it's either srs or suicide, no other way.
If anything, I think the common denominator among MtFs is depression and anxiety. I think it's implied that if you troon out, you turn into a hot babe who is eternally 29.

Even highly intelligent people will leave their critical thinking skills at the door if they're presented with what looks like the solution to all their life's problems.
Unless the desire to belong is so damn strong that they can drown out their own logic? I don’t know. Saying that I’m sure plenty of genuinely smart people fall into addiction and eating disorders.
One final piece of the puzzle IMO is also the progressive nature of trooning out. I notice that for troons, doing a *little bit* of crossdressing or whatever encourages them to just go farther. The high of wearing a skirt and fingerless lace gloves wears off and then wearing a skirt calls attention to all the other things about them that don't pass - voice, height, man-skull, hair.

So weirdly enough the more troon stuff they do, the more inclined they are to go "all the way" and make choices like getting HRT/FFS/SRS, because these people convinced themselves that happiness is just one more intervention away. (And then, they're usually disappointed with that intervention, and start looking around for another, and another... until you get to people who are seriously contemplating having their lowermost ribs removed and bits of their femurs taken for cosmetic reasons.)
 
I complimented one of those guys to shaving his ugly beard, growing his hair out (nothing specifically girly here) and starting to dress better. Little did I know this was his very first step of trooning out, or at least this was how he talked about the hair in retrospective, but again, many local young men have long hair. Well, fuck.
 
Well, female/gay male Kiwis? What's your answer?
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Ditch him. Sorry/not sorry, having a dick is kind of necessary when you're a straight woman looking for a relationship partner. I can buy my own silicone dick. It's not the same.
Also, "a few dates in"? Like, if I were the woman I'd be pissed off. I'd be thinking "thanks for wasting my time, dickhead."
I feel like that's something you get out of the way on date #1.
 
Well, female/gay male Kiwis? What's your answer?
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I guess, since kids aren't in the cards, it's kinda ok. really depends on the guy. Wouldn't ever date an active troon however because of the delusion and general insanity but this would be just sadge. Probably too sadge for a relationship. But I have a feeling that somebody who ever went that far and then recants would mostly go after women anyway... god this is really bad.

I mean how do you even accomododate someone who ever was this reckless and self hating:




There's so much wrong with this... backalley castrators, getting your balls in a jar (like in ancient China!)
I guess the doc deals with these eunuch/nullo bdsm types normally... shudders...

The sauce, if forgot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZRWLj93ikY
 
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Male detransitioners can find a female partner, even with no dick. I've seen a youtube video (it was posted either here or in another tranny thread) where a detrans man talks about his life. He was sexually abused as a child, trooned out later, cut his dick off, found god, detransitioned and married a woman he met at a christian group meeting.
 
Well, female/gay male Kiwis? What's your answer?
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Am a lady burrito.

Pass. Dicks are pretty cool and if I'm dating a guy he better have one. Add to that what everyone else said, if the guy went so far as to chop his dick off for the coom then that's not a person I need or want in my life. The very thought of interacting sexually with an amhole makes me want to throw up, I'd rather be penetrated by a large cactus. The tube tits would be a huge turn off too.

What about the other side, a pooner with no tits and a burned out vag? If she had the full rotdog or hyena clit then no but I think I could be OK with zippertits if I liked her a lot. Assuming by the time she meets me she has spent years in therapy unpacking what the fuck made her chop her tits off in the first place. Maybe it's sexist and a lil TERFy of me but I feel like some detrans chicks can be redeemable in a way AGP coomers never will be. Although this new breed of degenerate yaoi-consooming pooner is just as bad as the 40-year-old brickface "transbian" stealing his wife's panties. Neither of those are redeemable, dateable, or fuckable.
 
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