Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

The conservative movement has some pick-me trannies. Blaire White (who’s obviously an effeminate guy with a traumatic upbringing) is a pretty popular one.

Most of my own perceptions are from people I’ve been friends with, I’m from a rural area so self-hating homosexuality is about as rampant as crack in a black community. Some of those folks don’t want to disappoint their families or accept they like the same sex, so they’ll latch onto the theory that one can be born with a “female brain”. That way they can pretend to be straight and at least give off the aura they’ll find a nice girl. Other than creepy AGP’s, do you think so many trans women identify as “lesbians”?

Evangelical families seem to disproportionally produce children who become trannies, junkies and criminals. I've even discussed this with friends and they all know someone or other who grew up with evangelical parents and became addicted to drugs or became a prostitute or any kind of degenerate thing .

I don't think in this case is about traditionalism. Its because those people don't get taught any critical thinking and cultivate no morals or ethics beyond "sola fide". Here in latam that kind of protestantism is also associated with low income, low education backgrounds, so general bad upbringing as along with neurotic paranoid schizoprenic tier magical thinking were satan is everywhere is not a good combo for mental well being.

 

[Protistology]

Evangelical families seem to disproportionally produce children who become trannies, junkies and criminals. I've even discussed this with friends and they all know someone or other who grew up with evangelical parents and became addicted to drugs or became a prostitute or any kind of degenerate thing .

I don't think in this case is about traditionalism. Its because those people don't get taught any critical thinking and cultivate no morals or ethics beyond "sola fide". Here in latam that kind of protestantism is also associated with low income, low education backgrounds, so general bad upbringing as along with neurotic paranoid schizoprenic tier magical thinking were satan is everywhere is not a good combo for mental well being.

The Protestant Reformation and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

 

[Paper Machete]

I don't think in this case is about traditionalism. Its because those people don't get taught any critical thinking and cultivate no morals or ethics beyond "sola fide".

It's legit baffling the number of people who raise their kids just leaving things at "don't do X" or punishing them harshly for even entertaining the idea rather than actually TEACH them why certain things are to be avoided and teaching/proving to them why other ways of life are better. There is so little leadership in so many families.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

idk how common it is but there was that GOP congresswoman with a trans kid.

And yet somehow I don't think the kid trooned out to save her from having a gay kid:



And her pooner daughter is "gay"- that is straight. With a man.

gotchu brother. now he doesn’t even have a sexuality at all, let alone homosex. homophobia win, in the end

Where are you getting that his family is religious fundamentalists or whatever? Best info I can find is they are atheistic liberal Jews.

I’d say that the fact that so many of these freaks are “lesbians” is actually proof that they’re not poor, whittle misunderstood homos who aren’t allowed to be homos.

Precisely. Most of the ROGD kids in particular are "transbians" or "faggots." The idea that they are persecuted gay teens trying to give their fundie parents what they want is absurd on its face. What they can't accept about themselves is being a normal straight person, in a world that valorizes being a freak and a homosexual.

 

[Online Fossil]

Think back to cozy memoirs and young adult books pre-troonery and how many of them had a protagonist speculate about how it would have been different being a boy/girl, but not dwell on it and continue being dorky/quirky/proto-gay instead. Imagine inserting 300 extra pages after that chapter, where instead of advancing the plot the protagonist just climbs further and further up their own asshole and meets a new cast of self-important lovebombers to teach them to walk on eggshells, and they never manage to save the world/grow up and become a cartoonist/spy on their neighbors and learn life lessons after all.

I saw a bunch of people trying to argue this about Jo from Little Women after the most recent movie came out, that she was totally a trans man, just that there wasn’t the language for it back then. It’s a book from the 1800s about a girl who wanted a life beyond being a meek housewife. She didn’t want to be a boy, she wanted the freedom that being a boy would have afforded her. And in many ways, gender nonconforming women still want that, just now they’re being told “well ackshually not wanting to be a stereotype of woman means you’re a man”, which is at the core my whole problem with the ideology. Can we not just let people be people and not assign gender to personality traits or interests, we seemed to be on track with that up until the mid-2010s

 

[AI generated waifu]

I saw a bunch of people trying to argue this about Jo from Little Women after the most recent movie came out, that she was totally a trans man, just that there wasn’t the language for it back then. It’s a book from the 1800s about a girl who wanted a life beyond being a meek housewife. She didn’t want to be a boy, she wanted the freedom that being a boy would have afforded her. And in many ways, gender nonconforming women still want that, just now they’re being told “well ackshually not wanting to be a stereotype of woman means you’re a man”, which is at the core my whole problem with the ideology. Can we not just let people be people and not assign gender to personality traits or interests, we seemed to be on track with that up until the mid-2010s

Sad. She's probably a person many women related to! And continue to relate to!

Clearly that means she's a man, lmao.

 

[Aunt Carol]

It’s a book from the 1800s about a girl who wanted a life beyond being a meek housewife. She didn’t want to be a boy, she wanted the freedom that being a boy would have afforded her.

The further back in time you go, the harder it is to untangle "she wanted to be a man" from "she wanted to be a fully-fledged human."

It's the same with the posthumous baptism into troonery of any woman who dressed as male to do things women weren't allowed to do. Sure, some of them might have been pooners if they lived in Current Year ...but most of them would have just been career women, possibly lesbians, if they lived in 1990.

 

[Prof. Chaos]

Show me just ONE irl example.

I’m sorry this is bullshit. You live in the Bible belt and your son is a homo? You might cut him off, you sure as fuck won’t think it’s an improvement that he has long hair and calls himself Alice.

I can give you TWO examples of bible belters or self-proclaimed Christians trooning out their effeminate sons, Joseph "Kai" Shappley and Benjamin "Rebekah" Bruesehoff.

The Shappley parents describe themselves as Texan Christian Republicans. At first they began suspecting their toddler son's effeminate behavior was due to him being gay. So worried were the Shappley's that Joseph might be gay they began praying, then looking into coversion therapy, and finally beating the gay out of 3 year old Joseph. The Shappleys trooned out Joseph after a friend suggested he's transgender.

The mother even quotes the 41% meme in this mini doc.

I Let My Daughter Transition at 4 Years Old — And Have Zero Regrets Today

As a Christian mom, Kimberly Shappley struggled for years with what was happening with her child.

www.goodhousekeeping.com

Rebakah Bruesehoff's parents are not only Christians but his father is a pastor. The Brueshoffs trooned out their son when he was 7. The mother Jamie strikes me as a Jeanette Jennings type who transitioned her son for attention.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4735198/Christian-parents-support-transgender-daughter.html

 

[FedPostalService]

I saw a bunch of people trying to argue this about Jo from Little Women after the most recent movie came out, that she was totally a trans man, just that there wasn’t the language for it back then. It’s a book from the 1800s about a girl who wanted a life beyond being a meek housewife. She didn’t want to be a boy, she wanted the freedom that being a boy would have afforded her. And in many ways, gender nonconforming women still want that, just now they’re being told “well ackshually not wanting to be a stereotype of woman means you’re a man”, which is at the core my whole problem with the ideology. Can we not just let people be people and not assign gender to personality traits or interests, we seemed to be on track with that up until the mid-2010s

We get rid of sexism by erasing women, comrade.

 

[grimacefetishist]

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My case I got an anxiety medicine that also causes drowsiness when given in low doses and wake up calls every weekday morning. It felt pretty retarded at first as a full grow adult have a doctor telling me my bedtime routine and have someone checking if I'm getting up on reasonable hour but it's been working great and my health overall has improved alot. I actually get stuff done and I'm not constantly cranky because I'm getting regularly about 7-8 hours of sleep. The calls are ending soon too as they were just a backup until I got my new schedule working.

Where do you look into to get wake up calls?

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Where do you look into to get wake up calls?

I don't know how it works in anywhere else but here local hospitals have a service where a nurse does short check in calls for medical reasons. Calls can be just to see if you're okey or to remainders for doing something like taking your meds or blood pressure. It's mostly ment for the elderly but is used for other reasons. It's not something they advertise but any doctor, nurse or therapist can request for it. Calls didn't cost anything, they are ment to be a low stress help for anyone who might struggle with their at home treatment or is uncomfortable with more intensive care.

As far how I got it, my doctor recommended it as a supportive tool and arranged the whole thing after I agreed to. It was honestly that simple so all I can recommend is getting contact with medical professional.

 

[The Ugly One]

Rebakah Bruesehoff's parents are not only Christians but his father is a pastor.

He's a pastor in the extremely liberal ELCA, which hangs rainbow flags out for Pride Month, has rites for transgender renaming, and funds abortions for its clergy. They're basically the DNC with a liturgy.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Rebakah Bruesehoff's parents are not only Christians but his father is a pastor.

Using this soylord rainbow flag "pastor" who probably believes it's oppressive to use masculine pronouns to refer to Jesus, to prove "muh fundies are trooning out the baby gays" just tells me you are 100% socio-culturally illiterate and worth ignoring.

 

[Calvin Gabriel]

She [my sister] wanted to get hormones, so she went to a therapist who, in an unexpected moment of reason, told her, that she's clinically depressed and that it won't happen until she manages to overcome that.

So actually that's not how it happened. I recently talked with our mom about how troons&(((academia))) were lying about the safety and reversibility of puberty blockers. She then confessed to me that she lied about the psychologist's report. Turns out the psychologist actually "confirmed" gender dysphoria in my sister and recommended hormone therapy.

Well, sis is doing a lot better by now. She stopped coloring her hair black and even said to me she'll let it grow back. She doesn't ask anyone to call her by a boy name anymore, she's energetic and takes responsibility in the household. Surprise surprise - it was a phase. Who would've thought that happens to teenage girls. Anyway we're all happy about this development.

Now this is in spite of this demonic system which tried to destroy her life every step of the way. If our mother didn't go against my conformist father, every (((expert))), NGO, government and media narrative, as well as possibly risking some activist retard calling child abduction protection services, my sister would be on a highway to a lifetime of troonery and suffering. If we lived in a sane society, the people who wished to put us through this would be publicly hanged.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Thought that this would be the best place to share this insightful video

https://youtu.be/JxLAxhhZwGo?si=KOiya8U8ZY6gT5_o

 

[Prof. Chaos]

Using this soylord rainbow flag "pastor" who probably believes it's oppressive to use masculine pronouns to refer to Jesus, to prove "muh fundies are trooning out the baby gays" just tells me you are 100% socio-culturally illiterate and worth ignoring.

I didn't say it was a epidemic of fundies trooning their gay kids. There are a few though. Maybe the Bruesehoffs weren't a good example but the Shappleys are the real deal.

 

[AfghanBlue]

I didn't say it was a epidemic of fundies trooning their gay kids. There are a few though. Maybe the Bruesehoffs weren't a good example but the Shappleys are the real deal.

Ditto iran. It's clearly something within haddcore religion. And that crazy (Christian) bitch who runs the Mermaids child trooning charity in the UK.

 

[grenouille crétine]

Where are you getting that his family is religious fundamentalists or whatever?

The original statement was

People would be surprised at how traditionalism unintentionally helps fuel the trans movement. In a lot of cases it’s actually easier for these families to accept that their effeminate son is a woman rather than a homosexual.

Show me just ONE irl example.

You don’t have to be a Bible-thumping fundie to not want a poof for a child. You also don’t have to be a fundie to be duped into thinking troonery is better than being a homo, because maybe the child can potentially pass as straight one day and have a better quality of life. They’re wrong but the logic is pretty straightforward.

You also don’t have to believe the anecdotes being shared, since it’s the internet and we could very well all be lying, but acting as if we have definitive numbers over time on who’s trooning out for what reasons is stupid. We have no real idea how many detransitioners there are since evidence/data are anathema to troons, so how could we possibly confirm the number of gay vs straight troons, especially if some of the data is further obfuscated by calling HSTSs “straight” and marking trenders as true and honest homos instead?

Although straights obviously greatly outnumber gays, and so I do think it is very likely that there are now far more trans-IDed straights than gays, they’re still being sent down the same road regardless of individual pathology. Cults just want warm bodies, so it works out fine for them to make tracking an already messy subject even messier. Putting it all under the same umbrella is a forced coupling tactic that works beautifully (for the troons, anyway) since gays only have recent, conditional acceptance as it is.

Point being, yes there are homos encouraged by family and friends to troon out to achieve some semblance of normalcy. Of course it doesn’t work. Works out for the tranny lobby in the end either way.

 

[Sperghetti]

I didn't say it was a epidemic of fundies trooning their gay kids. There are a few though. Maybe the Bruesehoffs weren't a good example but the Shappleys are the real deal.

Ditto iran. It's clearly something within haddcore religion. And that crazy (Christian) bitch who runs the Mermaids child trooning charity in the UK.

Honestly, it makes perfect sense to me because Current Year gender ideology IS basically the same strict gender-role-based social system that many traditional religions and cultures subscribe to: If you’re not adhering to the stereotype and social role assigned to your sex, then clearly you are not really a member of that sex.

That’s why the TRAs will claim that some Islamic countries are “trans-friendly”. In reality, it’s not matter of progressive acceptance, it’s because there can’t be a relationship between two men where both are still considered to be men -- one of them must be a woman. Same reason those third gender categories some cultures have that they smugly brag about are almost universally a means of classifying gay or effeminate men. (There’s almost never a female equivalent, either, because property doesn’t get a say in its fate.)

If you can’t wrap your head around why a traditional religion/culture would prefer transgenderism to homosexuality, it’s because on some level, you understand sex and societal roles as being technically different things. For these people, it’s easier for them to parse the idea of a gay man actually being a deformed woman or some sort of “other” than it is to parse the idea that a gay man is, in fact, still a man.

 

[Protistology]

Honestly, it makes perfect sense to me because Current Year gender ideology IS basically the same strict gender-role-based social system that many traditional religions and cultures subscribe to: If you’re not adhering to the stereotype and social role assigned to your sex, then clearly you are not really a member of that sex.

That’s why the TRAs will claim that some Islamic countries are “trans-friendly”. In reality, it’s not matter of progressive acceptance, it’s because there can’t be a relationship between two men where both are still considered to be men -- one of them must be a woman. Same reason those third gender categories some cultures have that they smugly brag about are almost universally a means of classifying gay or effeminate men. (There’s almost never a female equivalent, either, because property doesn’t get a say in its fate.)

If you can’t wrap your head around why a traditional religion/culture would prefer transgenderism to homosexuality, it’s because on some level, you understand sex and societal roles as being technically different things. For these people, it’s easier for them to parse the idea of a gay man actually being a deformed woman or some sort of “other” than it is to parse the idea that a gay man is, in fact, still a man.

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