Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

Gingervitis said:
You know what, I should ask. I keep hearing that AI is theft or whatever. Is there any truth to that statement, or is this just artists looking to protect their bottom line?
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To massively oversimplify: AI by itself isn't theft (an artist can train a model on their own art, for example), but popular models are trained on very large sets of existing images, usually without the artists' permission, and are also used for profit without paying royalties (or giving credit) to the people whose art was used to train the model.

I don't think there have been any important legal decisions or case law about it so far, beyond one that stated that wholly AI-generated content cannot be copyrighted as it's not created by a human being. Spoiler: all that does is make it so people trying to copyright AI-generated content have to apply a minimum of alterations to the work so it classifies as "transformative content".
 
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Gingervitis said:
You know what, I should ask. I keep hearing that AI is theft or whatever. Is there any truth to that statement, or is this just artists looking to protect their bottom line?
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It's a horde of character designers, who are themselves an LLM hosted by Tumblr, complaining that a computer can now do the same thing as one million fat chicks copying each other's drawings.
 
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Life is Hell... said:
Animation Guild has released a new PSA about AI
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I'd have more sympathy for these people if they promised to be done with all this reliance on shipping and gay stuff as a focal point for everything they do.

"Animation's hard!" What isn't? The real problem is that you people complain about it more compared to other fields of entertainment. You were literally ground zero for social justice identity politics, so it makes sense that so many of you would easily crumble like tissue paper when a single drop of water hits you.
 
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VasonJoorhees said:
Praying for total JJ Abrams death right now, Batman Caped Crusader is fucking terrible:
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What are these body proportions? The chick on the right is built like fucking Kingpin. I want to watch Batman, not a multi part build up of a relationship between two fat lesbians. This is basically the entire show btw.

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Please someone tell me where I can consume good critique or snark on this show, even if it's just this particular episode.
My God, what a treat. 1940s queer brand of dykes casually asking each other on a date? They almost look exactly alike. Who wants this? Are they trying to cultivate a hate-watch fandom?
 
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Corn Flakes said:
To massively oversimplify: AI by itself isn't theft (an artist can train a model on their own art, for example), but popular models are trained on very large sets of existing images, usually without the artists' permission, and are also used for profit without paying royalties (or giving credit) to the people whose art was used to train the model.

I don't think there have been any important legal decisions or case law about it so far, beyond one that stated that wholly AI-generated content cannot be copyrighted as it's not created by a human being. Spoiler: all that does is make it so people trying to copyright AI-generated content have to apply a minimum of alterations to the work so it classifies as "transformative content".
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I hate the AI art argument, because yeah, it shouldn't be collaging people's shit together. You can't just take images from Google and smash them together and say it's yours, same with the AI stuff, even if it's pretty. BUT, if it's using models that the prompter has permission to use, like if you filled it with your own art, I think it could be a valid tool for making processes easier. Maybe they could find a way to use it to catch animation errors better than a burnt-out human could, or generate storyboards more quickly, or make the roughs for backgrounds before a human polishes the details. I feel like everyone's so caught up in which opinion their Side™ supports that nobody stops to consider the nuance.
 
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Let’s also consider that modern 2D animators don’t seem to have any great pride in their creations in terms of said creations’ intrinsic merits.

Fluid cartoony animation gets dismissed as John K worship—Looney Tunes fans btfo. Experimental stuff like Ralph Bakshi’s rotoscope or Alexander Petrov’s oil paints doesn’t even ping on the radar. Richard Williams’ maniacal devotion to craft is unheard of. So what makes modern product so great, that it deserves to be defended against encroaching technology?

The only merits modern animation has that I’ve ever heard discussed all boil down to HR department talking points. The living wage is higher for workers, the staff and products are more inclusive…. Ok, and?

What they’ve managed to produce since the year 2000 runs a gamut from anime fan art, diet soda Newgrounds Lite, and of course budget priced remakes of old intellectual property. Yawwwwn.

Apart from Genndy Tartakovsky, have any actual artists managed to jam their foot in the door, at all?? Is there anything of value to be lost if AI burns the industry to the ground??
 
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VasonJoorhees said:
Praying for total JJ Abrams death right now, Batman Caped Crusader is fucking terrible:
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What are these body proportions? The chick on the right is built like fucking Kingpin. I want to watch Batman, not a multi part build up of a relationship between two fat lesbians. This is basically the entire show btw.

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VasonJoorhees said:
That's supposed to be Harley Quinn, here's her in costume:

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It speaks for itself.
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Dr. Butt said:
I think she's supposed to be some kind of native mexican but western "animators" (storyboarders with korean slaves) only know how to draw racist caricatures of anything.
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If that's supposed to be Harley, who's Chungus Amongus supposed to be?

chalkyresidue said:
Let’s also consider that modern 2D animators don’t seem to have any great pride in their creations in terms of said creations’ intrinsic merits.
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"Western Sakuga" is such a wild concept that you can actually spot when animators swap in for certain scenes because they stand out so much from the rest of the show.
 
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Keep in mind, I don't know if this is 100% true or not. But from what I am hearing, Bluey adults are flagging any comments making fun of them as hate speech on YouTube, Reddit and Twitter.
 
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Gingervitis said:
You know what, I should ask. I keep hearing that AI is theft or whatever. Is there any truth to that statement, or is this just artists looking to protect their bottom line?
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There is some truth in that AI art can be theft. AI art generators use libraries of already existing art, that is categorized by prompts, to mush it together and spit out a amalgamation of several artworks. The problem starts is where did the art in the library came from? There actually was some big drama in the art community when it was revealed that AI generators where scrubbing sites like DeviantArt to have recourses to work on. All without the permission of the artists.
 
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The Cunting Death said:
Truly the next bronies.
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I always have a hard time calling them the next bronies, it feels so fitting, yet so odd.

Bronies are degenerates NEETS who won't leave their mother's basement and are sexually attracted to pony girls, kinda like weebs. While Bluey fans are more "mature" to the point that they have work and sometimes are even married, yet are extremely childish because they think a kid's slop is somehow the greatest thing on Earth, and hate children for some reason, kinda like adult Disney/Harry Potter fans.

Sometimes there's overlaps, both are still awful, but I couldn't imagine a brony being married, or a bluey fan actually being a fun person to be around for example.
 
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