Mega Rad Gun Thread

EggImpregnator said:
Well shit i have no idea then. I don't even know the ammo situation in Canada. You might still be getting cheap chinese/russian ammo. I would go into a gun store or talk to other Canadian gun owners to get a good picture on the ammo situation.

If the price is relatively equal, I'd go with something in 556. Its just a better cartridge than 762x39. Browse the websites of various big name Canadian gun sellers to see what their 556 offerings look like.
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I will certainly look into it, thanks for the advice.
 
Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
does anyone know if the old G.I. trick of cutting a X into ball ammo actually works? if so, then that is something you could do if down bad.
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They are called "dum dums" as my father used to call them at least.

Ian MCcollum said it best. Ammo manufacturers spend billions trying to make the deadliest projectile possible and some mad scientist redneck engineer not too different from myself, thinks he can make the 10mm into a cartridge that severs the human body in half with the right amount of powder and the geometry of the bullet in one shot.

Anyone recall the history of the Colt AR-15 became the "Sporter"? the Winchester "Black Talons" became the winchester "lawman" loads which to my understanding were either legally banned by name or removed from the market due to bad PR of a office shooting or something. My understanding is this rebranded them "lawman" and stopped putting the stupid black paint on the copper jacket and kept rolling them out.

My understanding is you either want to pierce light armor like green tips or black tips; You want maximum soft tissue damage like JHPs and then there are weird special purpose loads like snake shot or explosive tipped bullets which I have never seen used in combat, allegedly some rounds were made over the years that contained poison. Anyone remember Jaws? 1970 something? Sheriff Brady starts loading hollow points with potassium cyanide for his revolver. Jumping through a lot of scientific problems with that idea but I've heard stranger tactics.
 
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HarblMcDavid said:
Yep, that's the one. The Mk12's much less popular DMR brother for cloning because they're not that flashy or distinctive, but put a carry handle on it if you want to do irons like a more classic M16. Again the rail is the only weak point because I'm pretty sure it's an early KAC and it's got a big old rail-gaposa up top due to the barrel nut. Some discussion of the parts needed here.

The gasblock may be the stumbling point both in a financial and acquisition sense though, so I'd look for less KACy alternatives that still have the bayo lug and flip-up FSP like this, for example. Not perfect, but still has the lug, is a little less discontinued, and isn't super fiddly on installation.
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It looks cool certainly. Probably not in my price range rn though, even if i builtit over time. Probably will just go with a PSA clone of a A2/A3 for my first AR since it has everything I want. Can even go retro if i want and mount a 4x scope on the handle:
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I really like that look and vibe tbh.
Greatest Gonger said:
Fellows, convince me to buy a chinese sks, or convince me not too. I'm cheap so I experience pain in my soul when I make large purchases.
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The SKS is one of the most reliable rifles you will come across. You can abuse the fuck out of it and it'll still work. I disagree on the 7.62x39mm cost partially. There is plenty of western stock now. It just isn't $8 USD like the Russian stuff.

7.62x39mm is a solid round, roughly equivalent to 30-30. Good for hunting deer in a pinch. And good for barrier penetration like wood or brick. Made better by the SKS since it has a 20 inch barrel.
 
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Club Sandwich said:
i mostly agree with the exception that suppressors for general issue are a situation tool like a grenade. use it and have it when you need it, in some situations it's rather pointless - which is why i mentioned that you may as well suppress everything and have it be optional. with improvements in battlefield infoscape and small unit tactics, extending SOF capabilities to specialists embedded in regular infantry i feel would be an excellent boon to a fire team.

overgassing from suppression is a design issue that can be eliminated with a variety of approaches. my experience is that if you have a suppressed weapon and you generally leave it suppressed 100% of the time it's in play. you aren't removing or adding the suppressor in the field very often, even i never did that when i had QD suppressors on a rifle. that sort of thing was a pistol-only type of utility and highly situational.
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The other issue is they get INCREDIBLY HOT and will burn you or people around you badly if you're not care and even light brush on fire.

Oh and they make your rifle super filthy.

Lastly they add weight to the muzzle.

Suppressors have their used but for general issue? Not so sure.

WelperHelper99 said:
It looks cool certainly. Probably not in my price range rn though, even if i builtit over time. Probably will just go with a PSA clone of a A2/A3 for my first AR since it has everything I want. Can even go retro if i want and mount a 4x scope on the handle:
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Get the upper with the removable carry handle. The "Premium" line. They way you get the fun of a carry handle with the option to go pic rail up top.

Mine is an Aero precision A2 clone setup in that exact manner.
 
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Falcos_Commisar said:
Get the upper with the removable carry handle. The "Premium" line. They way you get the fun of a carry handle with the option to go pic rail up top.

Mine is an Aero precision A2 clone setup in that exact manner.
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Thats the plan. All the fun of the handle while still having a bit of picatanni if I want it. Best of both. Really though I'll be happy as long as it's that classic 80's blaster. It's very comfortable and light from what I've handled of it.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
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I really like that look and vibe tbh.
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always really loved the look of the carry handle AR. gives it so much more character than the flat tops. i also really liked the look of the scopes mounted on the carry handles. it gives the gun so much more character and just plain looks cool.

luckily it has died down with the trend of retro ARs, but at one point the trend was every AR had to more to the 'tacticool' look, as if everyone who just takes their rifle to the range needs to have some delta force kicking in doors style of rifle. i recall years before the retro AR became a popular thing that people thought i was stupid for saying i like the older style of AR. the thing is, if im just shooting paper, i dont need a quad rail with lights, laser, quick detach red dot on flat top rail, etc. just let me have a cool, fun gun to shoot.

you arnt delta force kicking in doors, you are a jackass on the range who struggles to keep all rounds on paper. quit larping as anything diffrent.
 
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Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
always really loved the look of the carry handle AR. gives it so much more character than the flat tops. i also really liked the look of the scopes mounted on the carry handles. it gives the gun so much more character and just plain looks cool.

luckily it has died down with the trend of retro ARs, but at one point the trend was every AR had to more to the 'tacticool' look, as if everyone who just takes their rifle to the range needs to have some delta force kicking in doors style of rifle. i recall years before the retro AR became a popular thing that people thought i was stupid for saying i like the older style of AR. the thing is, if im just shooting paper, i dont need a quad rail with lights, laser, quick detach red dot on flat top rail, etc. just let me have a cool, fun gun to shoot.

you arnt delta force kicking in doors, you are a jackass on the range who struggles to keep all rounds on paper. quit larping as anything diffrent.
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I mean it still has everything a AR needs. It can take 30 round mags, you got your sights, you even got a bayonet lug for spear mode. I don't need a space gun. I need a AR that shoots bullets down range. If I want a quad rail monster with gold ceracote finish I'll buy that. But nothing is wrong with a classic that is proven to work.
 
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Greatest Gonger said:
hm that is a good point. I am in Canada though, our 5.56 options may be much more limited than you have in the states.
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I asked a Canadian for some suggestions. After 15 minutes of kvetching about their situation the answer was:

For 5.56 get a Tavor or a Type 97, and for 7.62x39 get an SKS or a Type 81. Avoid any locally sourced AR-180 variants as they're all horrible shit.

Chinese surplus 7.62x39 is cheap af there, like $500 CAD for a crate of 1440 rounds. Sounds like you can get it anywhere.

Edit: Man, look at all those crates... Even got Chinese surplus 5.56 SS109 on the second page there.
 
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Badungus Kabungus said:
I asked a Canadian for some suggestions. After 15 minutes of kvetching about their situation the answer was:

For 5.56 get a Tavor or a Type 97, and for 7.62x39 get an SKS or a Type 81. Avoid any locally sourced AR-180 variants as they're all horrible shit.

Chinese surplus 7.62x39 is cheap af there, like $500 CAD for a crate of 1440 rounds. Sounds like you can get it anywhere.

Edit: Man, look at all those crates... Even got Chinese surplus 5.56 SS109 on the second page there.
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Ive been in lever arms. Lots of neat stuff in there, not really set up for browsing though.

Thanks for the advice, I think I may be too tempted by the engineering of the chinaman and so may commit to the 762 side of the coming world war.
 
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Greatest Gonger said:
Ive been in lever arms. Lots of neat stuff in there, not really set up for browsing though.

Thanks for the advice, I think I may be too tempted by the engineering of the chinaman and so may commit to the 762 side of the coming world war.
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Can't go wrong with an SKS and dirt cheap surplus ammo. Type 81 seems kinda pricy for what it is.
 
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Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
i also really liked the look of the scopes mounted on the carry handles. it gives the gun so much more character and just plain looks cool.
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Blood Diamond builds were a thing even among police circles. can't even tell you how many wanted either that or BHD. very weird feeling being asked to make clone rifles of stuff i used in the 90's lol.
Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
from a distance those arnt very visible. i'd say that is one is probably the best solution to go for with a detachable carry handle. but those low profile carry handles still dont look quite right to me.and of course this rifle still has to have those god awful quad rails on them.
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Justin's A1 carry handle is the normal size for the hand, but maintains the same height over bore as the A2. has a good look to it.

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there's also the Armalite carry handle from their M15 line, product number E20149, if you can find it.
 
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Looking more into what options Canadians have, looks like it's not all bad for 5.56. Can get a Bren 2 but they're ungodly expensive. The Benelli MR1 and the HK SL8 are available too. Seeing some G36 rifles but those seem to be SL8 conversions.

SL8 may be interesting for a DMR type build, can throw a STANAG magwell on it.

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Come on Canada bro, you know you want it. You'll have leftover money for ammo and cocaine. Pretty sure it's actually 5.56mm rather than .223, unless they make a special version for Canada with a .223 chamber.

 
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