Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

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Ellen Page is at a march on washington DC for trans abortion rights with fellow seahorse cow Kayden.
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What a nightmare cow crossover, Kayden is officially the most annoying and rage inducing pooner I’ve ever read about.
PEAK SELFISH to continue testosterone WHILE pregnant, but lol can’t breastfeed because that’s dysphoria.
At least Kayden’s little girl didn’t drink chemical soup for the first year of her life.

Ellen is pathetic and sad, at most aggressive like a yappy little ankle biter dog that will only get a nip in when you’re not paying attention.

Kayden is rage inducing and I want bad things to happen to her, for her to become for real homeless, her stupid bulbous “beautiful” eyes aren’t attractive or entrancing, and for her ex to get custody of both girls.
Oops I’m MATI, but Ellen this is the most insane pooner clout clinger to pick as a friend
 
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Page did an Interview that's rather interesting
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Good lord the opening photo they used for that article reminds me of how MeatCanyon draws people all wrinkly and uncanny.

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Came across an interesting post on r/FTMmen by BlusteryIllusions.
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Is there a reason transmeds don't think Elliot Page is trans?
I don't follow celebrities so I don't know if anything has changed, but it seems since he's come out, transmeds have insisted he's not actually trans and a lot of it seems to just focus on his looks or because he didn't begin transitioning as a teenager/worked as a woman for a while. When I Google him, he's dressed male and seeming to fit into his role as male fine. So why is this a consistent debate in transmed spaces?
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I didn't realize Page was so controversial among the trannies. Lets see what the TiFs have to say.
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I'm not a transmed myself. But I also don't belong to the crowd who tell people to love their bodies no matter what and that it's just internalized sexism.

So, this is not to say those who transition older cannot pass ever, because they do.

However, ageism very much factors into this. The generation of trans kids who are able to transition in the first place is a new phenomenon, which is one of the reasons especially younger trans people seem to forget this.

I also believe they're dissatisfied with Elliott's voice, claiming he has the stereotypical, clockable T-voice many would absolutely loathe to develop. Same with E's young face. To be fair, he's always looked young even pre-transition; but they don't really seem to take him seriously because he has a slim, short build that is commonly associated with women.
Reply: This absolutely shocking. I know your not saying you agree with this and are stating what some trans meds are saying, so I'm not getting at you. I absolutely can't believe that they are picking on page because of his height and voice. As if we can control these things lol. I myself am 5ft 2, probs shorter than Elliot. And as to the voice, well we can't predict how our bodies react to T and personally having watched the latest season of the umbrella academy, I'd say the voice is very masc now and doing well. I am also someone who has always looked young for my age. We can't say someone isn't trans just because they can't help their youthful features, height and voice etc... these trans meds who are saying these things are shitting on their own kind and it's absolutely vile and disgusting behaviour.
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So they hate Page's voice, height, age and non-passability? Fair enough she's basically everything the TiFs don't want to be. Hmm what else
When Eliott came out, there was a (rather short) period of time when he either still had long hair or the press only used older photos/videos with longer hair and his typical masculine clothing style because newer ones didn't exist yet. So some people claimed 'Nothing has changed, Eliott Page is not taking this seriously, nobody can believe that someone like that is a trans man, they make us look ridiculous.' Now, of course all of this has changed, he obviously medically transitions, but some people seemingly don't care.

Plus it hinges on the good old 'If you are able to repress your dysphoria until a certain age, you obviously never had any dysphoria at all. If you really had dysphoria, you wouldn't have (had any romantic relationships during that time, do anything to advance your career, go into public spaces at all...)'. Also, he seemingly has nonbinary friends, which is another factor which makes some transmed people go 'See, they are one of those fakers and not really trans.' It's something you see a lot in transmed spaces, sometimes even here...the idea that a trans man not agreeing with transmed talking points means he is obviously not a real, binary trans man himself.

This also points to another problem I have with parts of transmed ideology: In the end, nobody can prove to you that they have dysphoria. I can certainly tell you I have dysphoria, cry myself to sleep at night, could only transition past 30 because of health problems...but you could pull out some old cosplay photos of myself from 15 years ago where I cosplayed a female character (and felt miserable the whole time) and just say 'Well, my dysphoria wouldn't allow me to do that, so you are lying.' and that is the end of that conversation.

I feel like that is basically what is happening with some people and their views on Eliott Page...he transitioned in his 30s, so he can't 'prove' to them anymore that he has dysphoria.

Edit: That said, a lot of people in transmed spaces do see Eliott as a 'real' trans man. But posts stating otherwise also sometimes get a lot of upvotes, even if the comments mostly disagree with the OP, which sure is...something.
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I don't care about Page at all. Except the hair. JFC please get a better haircut.
That and own up to the fake abs.
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i’m not a transmed (anymore) but i was pretty deeply into it back in like 2016-2019 or so. my guess is that is has a lot to do with his age. transmeds are often really cynical of trans people who realize they’re trans later in life. they expect trans people to have the very stereotypical experience of realizing you’re trans early in childhood or right around puberty, waiting a bit to transition and then transitioning.

i also think part of it is how quickly his transition seemed to go. people seemingly “jumping” into medical transition quickly after coming out sometimes raises red flags and i guess makes transmeds think it’s an “impulsive” and “trendy” (i hate that term) decision. which is funny because they call anyone who waits “too long” to medically transition “not trans” either. anyway, he came out and very quickly got top surgery afterwards, as well as started hormones (i presume?)

i also think there’s an additional layer of jealousy over him and anger due to that. he’s obviously in a very, very privileged position. he’s white, skinny and famous. he had access to HRT and surgery quickly and had the money to transition quickly. happy for him! but also, i imagine there’s a lot of jealousy surrounding that, especially since a lot of transmeds are younger and feel like maybe they’ve been “out” longer than him and are jealous of his access to healthcare.

idk, those are my guesses.
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Of course, she's getting hate for being rich and white. Both are irredeemable blasphemy to the woke left.
I am a transmed and honestly don’t know a whole lot about Elliot Page, but from what I understand, this is someone who had the ability to get treatment for years and only recently did so. That’s extremely questionable. That being said, I don’t know a whole lot aside from the fact that this is an (at least somewhat) wealthy actor who could’ve gotten treatment long before just recently.
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One comment linked two Reddit posts as an example of why people are criticizing her transition. And here they are:
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Elliot Page's transition feels off to me
Sorry if it sounds like I have a tinfoil hat on right now, but I've been keeping my mouth shut about this for a long time and need to vent somewhere.

Everything Page does ever since they came out is very political, even the coming out post had a giant paragraph about anti-trans hate and said "enough is enough" like they're coming out because of that. It was also posted I think the same day or the day after some detransitioner hysteria lawsuit thing happened. It seems very weird to suddenly claim you're twans when you're in your early 30s and right after something happened that could have affected the rights of actual transsexual children.

They're friends with and platformed a nonbinary "comedian" (Jes Tom) who has said that ftm porn has "done a lot for [her] personally" and generally talks about her transition in a very fetishistic way. Another nonbinary "comedian" who I think identifies as a lesbian also posted her and Page together and tagged it as t4t. Just very weird "t4t lesbian" vibes from them and everyone they surround themselves with.

They can't even talk about their transition in a normal way. They recently posted themselves shirtless with of course the big rite of passage scars on full display, and said some very generic soulless things about dysphoria and mentioned how important it was for them to have "gender-affirming" medical care. They look and act like an AI generated trans activist.

I don't think Page is truly dysphoric, I think they are yet another mentally unstable lesbian dealing with internalized homophobia who after 2020 became convinced that they are a real twans man and is for some reason using this to become extremely political. It's sad that these people are who are representing us. It definitely won't change anytime soon because being open about having transitioned is a death sentence for normal people.
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Looks like Elliot Page transitioned on a whim after an episode
https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...elliot-page-survival-pageboy-umbrella-academy

"One night, he tried to knock himself out. Took his knuckles to his face and pounded over and over until bruises formed. For days after, he sat in a lawn chair on the porch, ashamed, his face sore. And then he heard a voice."

"'It was as if something in my brain turned around,” recalls Page, now 36. 'The agonizing voice saying, ‘No, you’re not,’ ‘No, you can’t’ just switched and became very gentle and loving. ‘Oh, maybe I’m trans. Why don’t I explore that?’'"

"Within weeks, he’d scheduled a Zoom consultation with a doctor to discuss top surgery. The procedure was scheduled for November. A month later, he announced to fans on Instagram, who have known him since the release of “Juno” 13 years prior, that his name was Elliot. "

This is really worrying. You shouldn't be able to get surgery scheduled after a few weeks of figuring this shit out. Adults should have the same stricter requirements that minors do, we seriously just let people over 18 do whatever the fuck they want with their bodies and it's wrong.

Edit: I've been banned from this subreddit for a while after calling Blaire White a he, despite people "misgendering" a bunch of other fake trans women who talk about how much they love their penis, so I'm unable to reply to all of the cisgender dregs who are finding this post. Go back to Twitter.
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Elliot page isn't liked by anyone, not even trannies.
 
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This is really worrying. You shouldn't be able to get surgery scheduled after a few weeks of figuring this shit out. Adults should have the same stricter requirements that minors do, we seriously just let people over 18 do whatever the fuck they want with their bodies and it's wrong.
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Wow, a tranny with common sense. That's something you see once in a blue moon.
 
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batteredpancakes said:
Elliot page isn't liked by anyone, not even trannies.
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That's fucking sad, I guess that's what you get for trying to please everyone because you can't please yourself. And the worst part is that she is not only hurting herself but thousands of young girls as well who will probably look up to her as a role model.
 
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I think the truth is that pooners don’t like Ellen is because she’s an embarrassment to their community: 5 feet tall, skinny, dainty feminine face, frog voice, ridiculous ab implants.

She’s everything that FtMs hate about themselves - the nightmare outcome. She's the counterpart of the 6’3” lantern jawed giga hons who embarrass MtFs.
 
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Thought of something as I was reading those pooner comments. The ironic thing is that the 2000s are having its nostalgic resurgence. Ellen’s peak was in that era and she could’ve developed new fans that decided to watch the old X Men movies, Juno, Hard Candy, or even Inception that way. She was still getting work when she pooned out. It wasn’t impossible. Other celebs have had weirder comebacks. Maybe she wouldn’t be an A lister, but she’d at least have respect.

But BPD and social contagion overcame, and instead of maybe getting new fans (even among the gay population for being lesbian) she threw it all away with a name change and fake abs. No wife, no career, no fans, no respect. Oh, but look at her fake abs! What a trade off.
 
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Adrenochrome Dreams said:
I think the truth is that pooners don’t like Ellen is because she’s an embarrassment to their community: 5 feet tall, skinny, dainty feminine face, frog voice, ridiculous ab implants.

She’s everything that FtMs hate about themselves - the nightmare outcome. She's the counterpart of the 6’3” lantern jawed giga hons who embarrass MtFs.
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I wonder if it’s also a reaction to the media bullshit surrounding her. Not only is she the stereotypical pooner, but the media are constantly gushing about what a manly sexy manly tough manly brave manly dude she is. It’s pretty patronising.
 
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Nebulon X5 said:
That's our loss. But this might just be the perfect subject matter for Tim Dillon.
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He's gone hard against lefty women and lesbians but haven't seen him even mentioning pooners.
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and which challenge the notion that heterosexuality is normal."
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If the vast, VAST majority of the world's population does X-thing then X-thing is normal.

You know what's not normal? whatever between .5% and 7%-at-best of the population is doing, it is by definition the meaning of "abnormal".
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This is part of Derrick Jensen's controversial talk at the Eugene Public Library in Oregon in 2018 where he discusses the links between Queer theory and pedophilia.
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Literally broken clock guy, he thinks trannies are too much but then wants 7.8 billion people to die so we go back to preindustrial times. Anprims loonies like these should be forced to live in a cave like the troglodytes they want to become.
 
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So how exactly are the transmed troons wrong? How can someone be transgendered if they aren't transgendered? One would think gender dysphoria would be a requirement. Anything else is just living a kink irl 24/7 and that's even more islamic than transgenderism. All this shit is just pure indulgence at this point and society needs to go back to gatekeeping.
 
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Xev said:
So how exactly are the transmed troons wrong? How can someone be transgendered if they aren't transgendered? One would think gender dysphoria would be a requirement. Anything else is just living a kink irl 24/7 and that's even more islamic than transgenderism. All this shit is just pure indulgence at this point and society needs to go back to gatekeeping.
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The tucutes believe you can identify under the trans umbrella (nonbinary, neopronouns, gender fluidity etc) because you're living your truth and "sticking it to the cis heteronormative patriarchal society" we live in. Someone much smarter than me could tell you how it relates to certain schools of communist theory and post-modernism, but that's the idea behind the trannies who aren't transmedicalists (those who believe they are mentally ill and transition is the only way for them to cope with their crippling gender identity disorder).

The transmeds aren't wrong but the tucutes are too retarded and too stubborn to accept they were wrong. It's much easier to let the Cluster B's run the shitshow because admitting anything else because of the sunk cost fallacy that is the current wave of trans activism/IDPOL/feminism garbage world we live in.

Oh and also because there's a bunch of people making bank on keeping the tucutes the mainline ideal for TQ+ people. You know, irreversible damage that can only be managed through lifelong medical assistance.
 
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