Mega Rad Gun Thread

i was understanding they still use it pretty regularly for ISP, and some other state law enforcement (Glock, S&W 59, others). while it's +P+, something that shoots reliably in a duty Glock 17 should be reasonably working in most other full size locked breech handguns (longer action, lower slide velocity, lower recoil impulse vs smaller pistols). it somehow not working safely in an M320 is very weird.

I ran a box of it through my G19 and it didn't really feel much more spicy than typical range ammo, but some of that could also be due to the Tungsten recoil assembly I just tossed in, too. (Gen 4)

I'm confident that all of my HK's, and other full to midsized wonder 9's that I own will probably eat this just fine, but I would be hesitant to use it in say... an LCP, or something like that.
 
Funny how PSA took this long to come out with a shotgun when people in developing countries can make half decent ones. I wonder how low their price will be.
I can get a Mossberg 500 for like $300 practically anywhere, I'm not even interested in a PSA copy of an already cheap shotgun.

Now, if they decide to start importing those Turknelli's and upgrading them with better parts, well, I'll think about it.
 
Funny how PSA took this long to come out with a shotgun when people in developing countries can make half decent ones. I wonder how low their price will be.
Probably be under $500 otd. It HAS to be no more than a Mossberg 500 and honestly can't be too much more than a Maverick 88 tbh.

Still near that they're making it buuuttt WHERE IS MY SABER JAKL???
 
I can get a Mossberg 500 for like $300 practically anywhere, I'm not even interested in a PSA copy of an already cheap shotgun.

Now, if they decide to start importing those Turknelli's and upgrading them with better parts, well, I'll think about it.
Dumbass psa just improving a cheap gun in every way and selling the recievers to make tac14's while also probably costing the same as a new 500 smh

Now if they imported a knockoff gun from cockroaches who have shit on their fingers and improved it by replacing basically all the parts that would be based
 
I'm going to get a Tikka T3x because I want one.
My conundrum is this -- I do enjoy .30-06 and .308, they're both great, but I do want to get into the stereotypical hunting rounds. I find .270 Win to be interesting since the hunting buddies use it, but commercial loadings leave much to be desired with a decrease in bullet weight over the decades to 150 grains at their heaviest. Though I am also intrigued by 6.5x55 Swede, because it's got a lot of fuddlore behind its prowess although I haven't seen it on the shelves of my local shops.
My distances will be ~100-300 yards, rarely 500. Caliber diversity is not a concern, my working guns are well stocked. Soft points/JHP/Copper projectiles will be the focus because it will be a gamegetter on top of being used for general long distance funsies.

Anyone have experience with Tikka, .270 Win and/or 6.5 Swede or all of the above? Or just shill your durr gun, discussion is healthy.
I've looked up reviews and even reloading forums but caliber wars get terrible when it comes to innawoods, I tell you what.
 
Dumbass psa just improving a cheap gun in every way and selling the recievers to make tac14's while also probably costing the same as a new 500 smh

Now if they imported a knockoff gun from cockroaches who have shit on their fingers and improved it by replacing basically all the parts that would be based
You're not gonna be able to improve on the 500 and actually be competitive with a real one, if they're both made in the USA.

And that's before you even consider the literal thousands of them on the used market.

PSA can't even make an AK that works, what makes you think that they won't fuck up a shotgun?
 
You're not gonna be able to improve on the 500 and actually be competitive with a real one
That's what concerns me, the Maverick 88 is the perfect poorfag gun and if they're trying to go toe-to-toe with it they would have to cut so many corners that it would rival the old potmetal Savage/Stevens/Springfield specials or even the current Turkshit flooding the market.
 
That's what concerns me, the Maverick 88 is the perfect poorfag gun and if they're trying to go toe-to-toe with it they would have to cut so many corners that it would rival the old potmetal Savage/Stevens/Springfield specials or even the current Turkshit flooding the market.
I just pulled this right off of Mossberg's website.
Good luck, PSA.
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Edit:
Magpul stock: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319512418 $109
Magpul forend: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319147823?pid=354167 $28
Magpul forward sling mount: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/100529362?pid=458557 $38

Is the new PSA shotgun going to be under $500? Because what I just posted is. And that is if you're buying new, at full MSRP....
 
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what makes you think that they won't fuck up a shotgun?
They make a good glock clone that people like, they make good ar's people like, what makes you think they cant make a shotgun people like. Psa thrives at taking existing ideas, and you act like basically every american manufacturer hasnt fucked up an ak before.

The reason this shotgun is gonna stick around is because they are as easy to fuck around with as a lego kit they built it in mind to be completely disasembled with super basic tools and no heat needed ect. with the 570 the magazine tube screws into the receiver and so does the barrel with this the barrel doesn't depend on the end of the magazine tube to index itself anymore, comes optics ready standard which is a specialty from the others (it also has glock sights which are nice) and they are also selling them as recievers and kits if you want to make a easy aow and pay the tax. They are still making improvements which if its about 400, which everyone is guessing it will be, why would you buy a new mossberg over this if its price matched or lower when its better in every way

Now thats not to say it wont come out be 550 dollars and a piece of shit but if this marketing hype is real its pretty cool
 
Dead like Pioneer and KUSA. Maybe you can grab a Riley's clone.
Uhh what? The JAKL is the pet project of the CEO and co founder, they'll be making a "premium" version soon enough now that the .308 model is out and about.


I'm going to get a Tikka T3x because I want one.
My conundrum is this -- I do enjoy .30-06 and .308, they're both great, but I do want to get into the stereotypical hunting rounds. I find .270 Win to be interesting since the hunting buddies use it, but commercial loadings leave much to be desired with a decrease in bullet weight over the decades to 150 grains at their heaviest. Though I am also intrigued by 6.5x55 Swede, because it's got a lot of fuddlore behind its prowess although I haven't seen it on the shelves of my local shops.
My distances will be ~100-300 yards, rarely 500. Caliber diversity is not a concern, my working guns are well stocked. Soft points/JHP/Copper projectiles will be the focus because it will be a gamegetter on top of being used for general long distance funsies.

Anyone have experience with Tikka, .270 Win and/or 6.5 Swede or all of the above? Or just shill your durr gun, discussion is healthy.
I've looked up reviews and even reloading forums but caliber wars get terrible when it comes to innawoods, I tell you what.
Tikka makes an excellent rifle, you'll be fine in ANY caliber.

At your listed ranges, man .308 all day.

Beyond that have fun as Tikka has retarded aftermarket support (in a good way) and so many great options.
 
I'm going to get a Tikka T3x because I want one.
My conundrum is this -- I do enjoy .30-06 and .308, they're both great, but I do want to get into the stereotypical hunting rounds. I find .270 Win to be interesting since the hunting buddies use it, but commercial loadings leave much to be desired with a decrease in bullet weight over the decades to 150 grains at their heaviest. Though I am also intrigued by 6.5x55 Swede, because it's got a lot of fuddlore behind its prowess although I haven't seen it on the shelves of my local shops.
My distances will be ~100-300 yards, rarely 500. Caliber diversity is not a concern, my working guns are well stocked. Soft points/JHP/Copper projectiles will be the focus because it will be a gamegetter on top of being used for general long distance funsies.

Anyone have experience with Tikka, .270 Win and/or 6.5 Swede or all of the above? Or just shill your durr gun, discussion is healthy.
I've looked up reviews and even reloading forums but caliber wars get terrible when it comes to innawoods, I tell you what.

A Remington 700 in .270 Win was my "big game up to Elk" hunting rifle. Not a huge fan of the Rem 700, I prefer Mauser style bolt rifles like the Winchester 70, but I really like .270 Win for a deer rifle. I shot a Pronghorn at right around 400 yards with it. Popped it in the right eye and blew the back of its head out. You get pretty much all the power of Aught Six with much flatter trajectory. The trade off is less flexibility in bullet weight, but really isn't a big deal since if you were going to go for anything larger than Elk you'd probably want to step up to a magnum cartridge.
 
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No joke, getting on a 5-30x coming from a 3-15 or similar is hilarious. Especially if the 5-30x is in a 6.5 Creedmore that shoots like a laser and is hitting .3 MoA groups at 100 yards.
Really it comes down to my rifle, the Franchi Momentum
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I'd need a bipod to make use of a better scope which means adding a stud. Mine is a VERY early model, so it might require drilling. I know it's possible, fuck this guy did it:
I just don't want to mess up the grip, the best part of the rifle.

That and a second reason. The 4x12 that replaced the factory 3x9 fits VERY close to the gun. You couldn't ask for a better mounting.
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Just look at it. Fucking gorgeous and tight to the gun.
 
Anyone have experience with Tikka, .270 Win and/or 6.5 Swede or all of the above?
i use a Sako 85, but Sako and Tikka (which is owned by Sako) make good rifles well worth the money asked, kind of like Howa imho. while i've hunted with .270, i prefer 6mm Remington over it. the .270 is a great north american deer cartridge and has enough headroom to drive out to 400 yards easily. i prefer 6mm in a shorter, lighter rifles if i'm humping it all day though. for 6.5mm Swedish is comparable to .303 British in most things but more ballistically efficient, has less overall power (so i wouldn't use it for 600+ lb game) but has much gentler felt recoil allowing, again, a lighter rifle to be used, including some options for a plains rifle (we're talking 1000+ yards easily) with the same techniques for long range Mauser accurizing and shooting. that being said, .260 Remington is a more common and less expensive 6.5mm Swedish that performs about the same and 6.5 Creedmoor is "better" than both with the added benefit of modern production. cheap high quality rifles in .260 Rem and 6.5 Swedish are easy to get though.

alternative: 7mm-06 Remington might be something you would like if you're looking at all these cartridges. very flat shooting, very reloader friendly, variety of actions out there to use, can be found commonly enough, has a little secret sauce to make it a bit different than the other things out there, and has headroom if you want to make your own go-getter for something up to an elk or moose, et c and keeps the fur in good condition enough to harvest a coat out of it.
 
LAM with dot mount, just because you can, doesn't necessarily mean you should
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Patent image for an absolutely insane shotgun design
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Taliban with captured L85A2 with probably Chinese thermal
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Experimental Tula TsKIB 5.66mm underwater assault rifle, never went into production. Coloration is not due to paint but a special corrosion resistant coating. Belt fed and heavily skeletonized to the point of absurdity to avoid water compression
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A bit hard to see, but two examples of Soviet usage of improvised tacticool foregrips made of what looks to be standard AK-74 grips
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Taliban with QBZ-97
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Lee Enfield's converted to 5.56 with crudely attached ACOG's from the west bank
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Heavily modified Kedr SMG by Hexagon Tactical
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Kochevnik in Syria
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Scoped M2 Browning done in the style of Carlos Hathcock at the 18th International Sniper Competition
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Ugandans with Chang Feng SMG's
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UAE Troops with Denel NTW-20
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Hard to see, but AK-107 in use with FSB (look at the extended gas tube that houses the counterweight)
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Suppressed PTRS in the hands of a Pre-SMO Donbass rebel
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