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Bored. Wanted to run some Ops in SM2. Waited 17 years to get through these dog ass load times only to see a curious sight: My marine was not only NOT the class I logged out as, this class was wearing armor and colors I swapped out like 3 days ago. Maybe I'm just retarded and forgot.

So I go have a look in the armory and what do you know? Days worth of progress is just gone. Vanished. Deleted. Stricken from the fucking archives.

Fuck this game dude. I'd refund it if I could, but all I can do is just delete this shit and maybe check to see if it's not a literal waste of time and money next year.
I'd contact customer service, you're not the only person having this issue. You're lucky you didn't pay for anything since it seems that people have had this happen on DLC cosmetics. It also seems to happen when you...quit your game...lawsuit incoming?
On top of that they also aren't even all that dwarfy anymore. Most of them have facial hair fit for a mere beardling with a notable lack of any proper gnollengrom amongst them.
>Make space dwarves
>Skimp out on the dorfy parts.

Sounds about right for GW.
 
If you want some lore to justify your color scheme, basing, conversions, you do you.
Perfect. That's what I wanted. Since I left the hobby, there seems to be a much more, I don't know the word, "official-ness" to everything now. Back in the day there were lots of units without official models you were expected to kit bash, but since there was no third parties then you were sol and just had to proxy (conscripts were guard with a white stripe on their helmets), now there's lots of bits and third party models available, the policy seems to be that if it's not an official GW model it doesn't count.

I forget where I heard this, but supposedly old GW models for things don't count either. My Space Marines and Tau from 2008 are "legends" and are not table legal. They're still marines, they're still wysiwyg, but are only playable in home games because they're old sculpts.

Looking them up I don't see anything about debt slavery, only that its lower classes are treated as little better than slaves. The Jopall Indentured Squadrons are all debt slaves though, every one of them indebted to the planetary government at birth and every lasgun bolt they fire after enlistment a debit on their accounts only paid off with bounties for kills.
That might be me mixing the two up, or the lore videos did. I don't want to go and re-listen to hours of videos to check, but I got the impression that they were the same thing. As if being a debt slave gave you a fondness for tea and facial hair.

Any others you particularly like?
 
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I forget where I heard this, but supposedly old GW models for things don't count either. My Space Marines and Tau from 2008 are "legends" and are not table legal. They're still marines, they're still wysiwyg, but are only playable in home games because they're old sculpts.
Yes and no.

GW actually switched from named space marine chapter army abilities, to detachments that hint at a chapter but aren't named after it(I'm talking about the codex compliant stuff) and at the same(with no change so far at any events) saying you can paint your space marines whatever color you want(there is still technically a rule about iconography at events hosted at warhammer world, but the big events aren't hosted there either so no one cares).

Starting on page 2 of this PDF(it's the legendary units doc from warcom) they actually have a suggested proxy list for all of the crap they've dumped to legends. https://warcomprod2024productionsto...gends_legendaryunits_eng_24.09-0uefelwovp.pdf

And really, no one cares so long as your models are on the right bases and have the right weapons. Is it a named character from 20 years ago with bespoke rules? No. But if you put it on the right size base(or just use adapter rings) make it a captain or a lieutenant or whatever so long as it's got the right weapons in its hands. You mentioned Tau, if you've got a hammerhead built with Longstrike in the hatch... ok now it's just a hammerhead, still playable. Aun'va? Leave the 2 bodyguards, and use the main guy as an ethereal or whatever. If you're actually going to a local tournament or a big event, just shoot the TO an email and ask. Unless the TO happens to hate you for whatever reason, most won't give a shit so long as the size is roughly the same and the base is the right size.

And for old space marine models that are really short? Instead of re-basing them or using adapter rings, just put the whole 25mm based mini on a 32mm using the extra height from the two stacked bases, then just add more basing around the edge so they're all on hills if you're really concerned with it.

And no one at a casual game other than the most autistic of retards is going to care.
 
That might be me mixing the two up, or the lore videos did. I don't want to go and re-listen to hours of videos to check, but I got the impression that they were the same thing. As if being a debt slave gave you a fondness for tea and facial hair.

Any others you particularly like?
Yeah, there's probably a mix-up somewhere. The Praetorians are basically Victorian Bongland, complete with shameless exploitative classism where the poorfags exist solely to die in the name of enriching their betters, either in the factories or on the battlefield. The Jopalli on the other hand are basically ancapism taken to the logical extreme where everyone owes the state a literal financial debt for the resources consumed providing for them in their childhood, and it must be paid off one way or the other.

As to other ones, I like the Ketzok regiments. They're another one of Abnett's, only show up a few times, but they both love artillery and love fancy paint jobs for their vehicles. They have a special fondness for feathered dragons and paint those all over and around their gun tubes.

Honestly, you can probably throw a dart at any of the regiments he created and find something interesting. Its why his fall from grace in recent years has been so utterly heart-wrenching. The Volpone Bluebloods are simultaneously a bunch of arrogant, condescending suck-ups and excellent mechanized shock troopers, and the Jantine Patricians are a weird mix of Prussian nobility and the Jem'Hadar, with a fondness for dueling scars and a complete disregard for their own lives so long as victory is achieved.
The Jantine had more options, but the one they decided to use amazed Blane. After a full thirty minutes of fire exchange, the Patricians charged. En masse. Close on a thousand heavy troopers, bayonets fixed to muzzle-clips, rose as one from the bracken-choked foxholes and stormed up the slope towards his platoon.

It was an astonishing decision. Blane gasped and his first thought was that madness had gripped the Jantine command. And a sort of madness had, but one that would surely win the day. The fifty guns of the Ghosts had more targets then they could pick. Dozens, hundreds of Jantine never made it up the slope, their twitching thrashing or limp bodies collapsing brokenly into the ochre undergrowth. But there was no way Blane’s men could cut them all down before they reached the hill line.

“Blood of the Emperor!” spat Blane as he understood the tactic: superior numbers, total loyalty and an unquenchable thirst for victory. The Jantine Commander had deployed his troops as expendable, using their sheer weight to soak up the Ghosts’ fire and overwhelm them.

Three hundred Jantine Patricians were dead before the charge made it into Tanith lines. Dead to the Tanith guns, the slope of the hill, the angles of death. But that still left close on seven hundred of them to meet head on in screaming waves at the ditch line of the slit-trenches.

Singing the ancient war-hymn of Jant Normanidus, the Alto Credo, Major Brochuss led the assault over the Tanith Ghosts’ paltry defence line. A las-round punched through his cloth-armoured sleeve and scorched the flesh of one arm. He swung around, double-blasting the Ghost before him as teams of his soldiery came in behind him.

The Ghosts were nothing… and to tear into them like this was a joy that exorcised Brochuss’ own ghosts, ghosts which had been with him one way or another since the humiliation on Khedd, and which had been further reinforced on Fortis Binary and Pyrites. Anger, battle-joy, lust, rage — they thrilled through the powerful body of the Jantine Patrician.

The tempered steel of his bayonet slashed left and right, impaling and killing. Twice he had to fire his rifle point-blank to loosen a corpse stuck on his blade.

The nobility of his upbringing made him recognise the courage and fighting skill of the spidery black-dad men they crushed in this trench. They fought to the last, and with great skill. But they were light troops, dressed in thin fabrics, utterly unmatching the physical strength and resilience of his hard-armoured Jantine. His men had the discipline of the military academies of Jant in their blood, the fierce will to win. That was what made them Patricians, what made them as feared by others of the Imperial Guard as the Guards feared the Adeptus Astartes.

If Brochuss thought of the cost which had earned them the route to the top of the hill, it was only in terms of the victory hymns they would sing at the mass funerals. If it cost one or a thousand, victory was still victory — and a punishment victory over traitor scum like this was the most cherished of all. The Ghosts were vermin to be exterminated. Colonel Flense had been right to give the order to charge, even though he had seemed strangely pale and horrified when he had given it.

Victory was theirs.
Oh, and the Vitrians are Indians (dot not feather), except they're all well-read badasses with a fondness for glass and obsidian instead of street shitting, every Guardsman of theirs issued a gene-locked version of their homeworld's version of the Art of War that opens only to his touch and nobody else's.
Gaunt’s message had been as per their agreement, though it was still the worst, most devastating message he had received in sixteen years as a fighting man. Their mutual enemies had shown their hands and now the success of the venture depended upon his loyalty. To Colonel-Commissar Gaunt. To the man called Fereyd, among other things. To the Emperor.

It went against all his schooling as an Imperial Guardsman, all his nature. It went against the intricate teachings of the Byhata. But still, the Byhata said there was honour in friendship, and friendship in valour. Loyalty and honour, the twinned fundamental aspects of the Vitrian Art of War.

Let Dravere have him shot, him and all four hundred of his men. This was not insubordination, nor was it insurrection. Gaunt had showed the colonel what was at stake. He had showed him the greater levels of loyalty and honour at stake on Menazoid Epsilon. He had been truer to the Emperor and truer to the teachings of the Byhata than Dravere could ever have been.

In a triple arrowhead formation, almost invisible in their glass armour, the Vitrian Dragoons punched into the hindquarters of Brochuss’ extended advance line; a tight, dense triple wedge where the Patricians were loose and extended. The Jantine had formed a lateral file to embrace the enemy, utterly useless for countering a rearguard sweep. So it said in the Byhata: book six, segment thirty one, page four hundred and six.
 
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Votann are just not real squats. They are knockoff starcraft midgets, the irony. They lack any of the old dwarf charm.

As for custom stuff, just don't sperg it at anyone. People don't have the time to listen to your 5 hour long epic.

A custom color scheme or heads are much easier to get off with than your own tank, the SPERGBLADE which has its own custom guns, or a new set of existing guns.

Your buddies may be ok with the Spergblade, its twin linked grenade launcher sponsons, its hull mounted earthshaker cannon and its turreted twin linked Bombard mortars, but a random you just met may nope out.

This is not to discourage you, if your friends and you like the Spergblade and have the money to get it made, sure go ahead. Didn't stop me from getting an Assault Marine with 2 power fists, or a Tactical Marine with 2 pistols.
 
Because most of the models are fucking boring and uninspired, compared to the necromunda squat models(including a vehicle) which is what people actually wanted.
There’s also the lore issue where they’re essentially worshipping an AI
 
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As for custom stuff, just don't sperg it at anyone. People don't have the time to listen to your 5 hour long epic.
I won't. It mostly exists as a way to make custom colours and third party kits without being lore breaking. With the added bonus of being able to make jokes at the table when things go wrong.

I was thinking of having them be based on Starship Troopers (the movie version). Service guarantees citizenship.

A custom color scheme or heads are much easier to get off with than your own tank, the SPERGBLADE which has its own custom guns, or a new set of existing guns.
Funny you mention that. One thing I'd like to do is have a half-track for an APC. As far as I can tell 40k has no suitable unit I could use that as a reasonable proxy for since a Chimera is tank sized.
 
God, that Knights box looks good. What do you think, $200, or $250? It's $368 worth of knights right now so I'm guessing $250, which would shake out to just about "you paid for the big knight and one pair of small knights and get the other pair of small knights for free."
Apparently there's something fucky with the knight box.
The Valourstrike Lance centres around one such Questoris Knight which can be built as one of two variants – the battle cannon-toting Knight Paladin or melta specialist Knight Errant.* Each of the four Armigers can be built as either an Armiger Helverin with twin autocannons or an Armiger Warglaive, packing a close range thermal spear and chain-cleaver.
* Correction: An earlier version of this article stated that the Knight Questoris in this kit could be build as one of six variants and included Sir Hektur. We can confirm that the Knight Questoris can only be built as a Knight Paladin or a Knight Errant.

So they aren't including the entire mid sized knight kit like the 2022 chainbreaker lance box did.
 
Oh god, this will be nothing but twitter trannies playing this and ruining the faction won’t it?
The likes of CerebrusXT and Sigmarxism will ABSOLUTELY see this and go "look, the nazis made the trans faction the villains! Well take this chuds! uwu slannesh my beloved, I can fix theythem!"

I've already seen plenty of Black Salamanders. Not Salamanders with their traditional black skin, oh no: African American Salamanders. With cornrows and afros and shit. Because tourists gonna tourist. Slannesh as the "secret good guygal that just wants to embrace love" would be perfect for these types.

So they aren't including the entire mid sized knight kit like the 2022 chainbreaker lance box did.
Supposedly there are two mid sized knight kits, the old one and the newer one; the newer one came with 2 extra sprues to allow you to make all 6 variants, the older one did not, so only two variants.

This might be them just getting rid of the old old mid sized kight kits, especially if they're shipped in multiple boxes instead of one giant box.
 
Supposedly there are two mid sized knight kits, the old one and the newer one; the newer one came with 2 extra sprues to allow you to make all 6 variants, the older one did not, so only two variants.

This might be them just getting rid of the old old mid sized kight kits, especially if they're shipped in multiple boxes instead of one giant box.
That would honestly be kind of weird if they still had the older ones sitting around, since the listings for the questoris pattern knights have had the variants included for years now(the fact that GW lists a kit that can build multiple things, as its own individual items is a separate annoying issue). What I find more likely is they just didn't bother to do a run of the extra sprues for the additional options this time.

Regardless, I felt it was worth pointing out because it does mean getting the extra weapon options elsewhere. And while there are plenty of places(ebay, 3d prints, and so on) it's still an additional bit of effort and potential cost to do so.
 
I was thinking of having them be based on Starship Troopers (the movie version). Service guarantees citizenship.
Found an image just now of what basic training is like for them:
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I won't. It mostly exists as a way to make custom colours and third party kits without being lore breaking. With the added bonus of being able to make jokes at the table when things go wrong.

I was thinking of having them be based on Starship Troopers (the movie version). Service guarantees citizenship.


Funny you mention that. One thing I'd like to do is have a half-track for an APC. As far as I can tell 40k has no suitable unit I could use that as a reasonable proxy for since a Chimera is tank sized.

Custom heads and such should be fine, but for casual games the weapons should be very easily identifyable. The APC maybe a bigger issue.
 
Votann guns, and vehicles just look ugly as sin. Blocky, clunky, crude looking pieces of shit, when they're supposed to have access to old STC's in such good condition that they shouldn't need to break out Mars rovers with gravity guns superglued to the front. They should be rolling up in Corvus Blackstars, sleek looking hovertanks and shit. Instead they just look like some Age of Wonders Planetfall knockoffs.
 
I'm starting to experience antiwoke fatigue.
I'm only having fatigue because people aren't getting into the real reason this shit is being perpetuated and who the main actors are. Everyone is a grifter now...
okay so I was lurking /tg/ https://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/94101791

This might be Gamza making this thread , but I guess Gamza deleted everything on his old video game channel.....and became a shitter Synthetic man with barely any views. LMAO


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Ahh I remember this guy, Commissar Gamza, he was most known for his theories of "who would survive 40k" videos. He's was sort of like a discount Arch and much like Arch (iirc) GW kicked his teeth in. I respected him mostly because he called out GW for their shitty behavior and helped people try and get into 3D printing for Warhammer with even his own STL files even if his personality didn't really vibe with me. Overall, not really bad. Of course the same people who hate Arch also celebrated his downfall, such as MajorKill(yourself).
 
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I'm only having fatigue because people aren't getting into the real reason this shit is being perpetuated and who the main actors are. Everyone is a grifter now...

Ahh I remember this guy, Commissar Gamza, he was most known for his theories of "who would survive 40k" videos. He's was sort of like a discount Arch and much like Arch (iirc) GW kicked his teeth in. I respected him mostly because he called out GW for their shitty behavior and helped people try and get into 3D printing for Warhammer with even his own STL files even if his personality didn't really vibe with me. Overall, not really bad. Of course the same people who hate Arch also celebrated his downfall, such as MajorKill(yourself).
Gamza was a normal hobbyist once I don’t understand why he went down this path the fact he fully deleted everything is worse now
 
okay so I was lurking /tg/ https://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/94101791

This might be Gamza making this thread , but I guess Gamza deleted everything on his old video game channel.....and became a shitter Synthetic man with barely any views. LMAO


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lol, that fucking loser.

Went from doing terrain videos, to the stupid "would goku from DBZ survive in 40k?" type shit, to just bitching nonstop about GW, quit, came back on the 3d printing bandwagon and that went nowhere for him. Quit again, then went straight into the idiotic right wing grifting like all of the other channels.

The last time I saw him live streaming, it was probably around noon his time(I think he's somewhere in the midwest? regardless, it was the middle of the damned day), in the middle of the week, to an audience in the double digits, drunk as shit(slurred speech, looking like he was about to fall out of his chair) whining about one of the guys from miniwargaming having a shitload of chaos models(it was one of those videos where dude shows off his 80k points of a faction or whatever) but owns 3d printers, as if you can't do both.

Guy makes fuck all on patreon, fuck all from superchats on youtube, etc.

He's probably still mad that the bulk of the subscribers he has, are from his can Goku/Darth Vader/OptimusPrime/whoever survive in 40k and he never blew up beyond that, and trying to get on the GW hate train didn't work for him either.

Gamza was a normal hobbyist once I don’t understand why he went down this path the fact he fully deleted everything is worse now
He deleted most of it ages ago. There were a couple tirades he had also done about how he's such a good christian blah blah blah the evil left is trying to take down our country crap and all its ever done is drive away viewers. The buttermilk bob thing and the goofy voices never helped either. He comes off as a manchild. Unfortunately there isn't much hard documentation of this shit around still, because he would actually warrant a lolcow thread(or at least one somewhere on KF).

edit: his patreon failed because while he started with around 400 paid members, and was producing 3d models for printing, the stuff he was posting to his patreon was some of the most generic looking bullshit so he lost 3/4 of those subscribers.
This guy took a look at his tanks(toward the end of the video) and not only are the models boring as hell, the supports are fucked up, they're not hollowed out right, they're not lined up correctly, and so on.
 
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Gamza was a normal hobbyist once I don’t understand why he went down this path the fact he fully deleted everything is worse now
His reputation was in the shitter as the thread you linked suggests as he became more and more engrossed with drama, even going after people who themselves aren't into drama. Combined with GW telling him to knock it off, he must have figured that he had no place in the 40k community in any way anymore and decided to take the easy way out and become a grifter.
 
His reputation was in the shitter as the thread you linked suggests as he became more and more engrossed with drama, even going after people who themselves aren't into drama. Combined with GW telling him to knock it off, he must have figured that he had no place in the 40k community in any way anymore and decided to take the easy way out and become a grifter.

Im too lazy to research outside of minor googling but the thread said he apparently targeted Baldermort? Like why tho? You could target any leftist channel and you picked him?
 
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