Warhammer 40k

Is there any dark angels successor chapter or part of the legion that doesn't give a shit about the fallen? I like the idea of roleplaying someone tired of going on snipe hunts when the imperium is at risk.
I'm sure there are plenty. A quick glance got me the knights of the falcon who's blurb says the distance themselves from the unforgiven.
There is also your own homebrew
I run Dark Angels mostly because of their color scheme.

You're implicitly encouraged to make up your own homebrew chapters. If White Dwarf can showcase someone's Castratii Coprophagis chapter, then you can make a Dark Angels successor. Only the greasiest, most unpleasant of autistic neckbeards will tell you otherwise.

Part of what makes the hobby so fun is making it your own and putting your own twist on it. The Imperium is unfathomably vast, so there's plenty of room for your own stories. It's a setting in which you are a participant.

Same goes with rules. Unless you're in a tournament, the materials outright say you can omit rules as long as both players agree. I take the same approach with D&D; never let the petty details get in the way of fun.
 
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I bought second hand bits a few years ago. Things like legs and torsos, you used to get a few more arms, Assault Terminators came with double the arms for example.

I don't know if current kits still do that, and tournaments definately won't like it, but for friends, why waste it?
 
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There's supposedly some way of increasing the number of Sisters of Battle by using Sisters of Silence, but I haven't found the details. It sounds like one kit has more bodies than weapons, and vice versa?
Not sure, but the sisters of silence kit comes with 3 full sets of weapons, 2h swords, flamers, and bolters and the arms for them are probably close enough to the sisters of battle arms. The bodies look completely different though.
but if you're going to 3D print then why bother with plastic in the first place? Others are buying certain sets that are out of print (buying the 9th starter kit instead of necron warriors).
Filament 3d printers have made some pretty big leaps in improvement over the years. The bambu labs stuff is basically plug it in and go and get good quality prints without tuning, needing to spend the first week printing braces and shit, and so on like the old ender 3 that seem like a dime a dozen these days. But filament prints look like shit for anything beyond terrain. For resin, I actually watched this video the other day, and it covers the issues.
Basically, you still have to tune the shit. You're effectively handling toxic waste even if you aren't concerned about the disposal. Some resins are far more fragile than others(over exposure also impacts this), you need a setup to wash all of this shit, and cure the shit, and the interface on the printer needs to not be dumb. You need a ventilated room that's also warm, if you have a pet they can't be near this shit. Cleaning up what basically looks like pimples from the supports at times is more of a pain in the ass than dealing with mold lines. Need to use superglue instead of plastic cement. Slow as fuck even on the fastest printers if you go for the thinnest layer lines. Layer lines still visible(and made worse with some wash or dry brush techniques) that can require sanding and filling to fix. Sometimes having to experiment with the orientation of the parts you're printing(which adds up to using even more time, the space you're doing this in occupying more time, and so on), film failures resulting in drowning the printer itself in resin and possibly leaking into the printer itself and ruining it(the film in the resin vat is a consumable).

If you know a guy who is fully setup and good to go, and will print you stuff if you can find the models and cover his material costs and maybe a pack of beer or whatever, great. But resin printing is still its own extensive hobby and some people just want to at least minimize how much they have to deal with it.

I bought second hand bits a few years ago. Things like legs and torsos, you used to get a few more arms, Assault Terminators came with double the arms for example.

I don't know if current kits still do that, and tournaments definately won't like it, but for friends, why waste it?
Tournaments only care that your stuff is painted(so it doesn't look like shit), and has the right weapons(if the data sheet says it's supposed to have a big axe, then it shouldn't have a big gun instead), and is the right size for what the model is supposed to be(so you're not modeling for advantage). Definitely not going to care about just arm swaps, and if anything consider that most tournaments having converted/sculpted/modeled stuff done well is an advantage for when it comes to a best painted army award. This is also why tournament organizers ask people to email them pictures of things in advance if they really aren't sure because you've drastically changed a pose or something.
 
those and a couple orks are it really, everything else will always be missing a pair of legs.
Oh. Those aren't really that good a value then. Except maybe the leman russ stretch.

What's the ork kit stretch?

Filament 3d printers have made some pretty big leaps in improvement over the years. The bambu labs stuff is basically plug it in and go and get good quality prints without tuning, needing to spend the first week printing braces and shit, and so on like the old ender 3 that seem like a dime a dozen these days. But filament prints look like shit for anything beyond terrain. For resin, I actually watched this video the other day, and it covers the issues.
Yeah. I covered this in another thread about budget wargaming. Lots of great advice in the thread.

As for printers, I don't have the space to put them. It's also a hobby that gets expensive quick.


I don't know if it's people wanting to think the series is dark and mature or too stubborn with new lore that dials down the grimderp.
This is something plaguing One Page Rules at the moment, which is a shame because the writing of that setting has serious issues, but the reddit "community" just wants to complain about the lack of grimderp.

I know I'm coming across as old-man-yells-at-cloud, but I think the problem is in part the internet. The "media literacy" types who believe this bizarre idea that any good, any kind of hope, is somehow anathema to the setting and will sperg out on the internet if their impossible demands aren't met.

This is going to seem off topic, but I notice this is Nintendo fans a lot. They want everything to be darker, grittier, more adult, but failing to realise that it's bing bing wahoo for children. Pokemon is the most recent example.
"We want a dark, mature pokemon."
*Palworld happens*
"No! Not like that!"
*Gamefreak leaks happen*
"No! Not like that!"

I don't know what they think something being dark, mature, or adult means.
 
This is going to seem off topic, but I notice this is Nintendo fans a lot. They want everything to be darker, grittier, more adult, but failing to realise that it's bing bing wahoo for children. Pokemon is the most recent example.
"We want a dark, mature pokemon."
*Palworld happens*
"No! Not like that!"
*Gamefreak leaks happen*
"No! Not like that!"

I don't know what they think something being dark, mature, or adult means.
The average consumer of media these days is a fucking moron. This is why you see people proclaiming that unless the protagonist in a game/book/movie/show/etc matches as close as possible to themselves, they just can't be entertained by anything, which results in a refusal to engage in media because they see from the onset that they the consumer aren't written in as the main character, and thus more media illiteracy. It's like a feedback loop of stupidity that's been going on for 15 years or more at this point, resulting in braindead writers making things even worse.
 
I'm really sick of "the Imperium is totes awful you guys", especially now that we kicked into gear with a new cope that anything that shows the Imperium as good must be in-universe propaganda.

I don't know if it's people wanting to think the series is dark and mature or too stubborn with new lore that dials down the grimderp.
That Luetin series is what got me into 40k.

I get your drift, but the Imperium's cartoonish disregard for human life is what gives 40k its charming black comedy.

Plus, I'd argue they're the good guys precisely because they're heavy-handed and mean. They can't afford to allow luxury beliefs like those of Current Year, when the stakes for humanity are "fight/work to your last breath, or our species goes extinct."

There's no place for bleeding-hearts in M41 (except maybe as servitors). Being good doesn't necessarily mean being nice.
I know I'm coming across as old-man-yells-at-cloud, but I think the problem is in part the internet. The "media literacy" types who believe this bizarre idea that any good, any kind of hope, is somehow anathema to the setting and will sperg out on the internet if their impossible demands aren't met.
I'm of two minds on that question. I think the GRRM "boohoohoo, everything sucks" style of grimdark is an over-correction of polyanna MCU plots.
but the reddit "community" just wants to complain about the lack of grimderp.
We reeeeeeally need to do away with this notion that know-it-all Redditors are an authority on anything. There's always gonna be a cabal of nitpicking autists looking for something to complain about. Waving their e-penises in displays of smarter-than-thou is all that gives their empty lives meaning.
 
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I get your drift, but the Imperium's cartoonish disregard for human life is what gives 40k its charming black comedy.

Plus, I'd argue they're the good guys precisely because they're heavy-handed and mean. They can't afford to allow luxury beliefs like those of Current Year, when the stakes for humanity are "fight/work to your last breath, or our species goes extinct."

There's no place for bleeding-hearts in M41 (except maybe as servitors). Being good doesn't necessarily mean being nice.
Yeah but that's what Grimderp is about. When the darkness is just retarded, either unnecessary or counterproductive. For example, having the Imperial Guard waste millions of lives at a war is okay, but having them basically zerg rush enemy, especially things like tyrannids is just silly. Basic bitch medieval tactics aren't that dumb.
 
There's no place for bleeding-hearts in M41 (except maybe as servitors). Being good doesn't necessarily mean being nice.
In one of the tank novels where the commanders are being blade Lieutenant runs across some sand scum who are willing to help him even though the imperium treats them like second class citizens simply due to the fact that the orcs are literally murdering them making it so they can't hunt for food.
The imperium is flawed but it is humanity's greatest hope for a better future they just need to grind all of their enemies into the dust
 
Yeah but that's what Grimderp is about. When the darkness is just retarded, either unnecessary or counterproductive. For example, having the Imperial Guard waste millions of lives at a war is okay, but having them basically zerg rush enemy, especially things like tyrannids is just silly. Basic bitch medieval tactics aren't that dumb.
That's just military life for ya. You are little more than a slave for your moral and intellectual inferiors, and most of your duties will be pointless make-work in the grand scheme of things.
 
That's just military life for ya. You are little more than a slave for your moral and intellectual inferiors, and most of your duties will be pointless make-work in the grand scheme of things.
If it was local forces than maybe. But the guard needs to equip those soldiers and send them half the galaxy, so it's insane to not use the time to teach them tactics.

Even in an organisational viewpoint people this retarded would be replaced by people who can do their job.
 
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If it was local forces than maybe. But the guard needs to equip those soldiers and send them half the galaxy, so it's insane to not use the time to teach them tactics.

Even in an organisational viewpoint people this retarded would be replaced by people who can do their job.
Sure, but this is the same GW that in the third war for Armageddon, as in the entire damned planet, only had 1.5 million guardsmen involved. Even the larger nations in WW1 mobilized more troops than that on their own(Germany, UK, US, Turkey, France, etc.). And for WW2 it's even more absurd as even Yugoslavia and Romania mobilized as many more more troops than that. Then you get shit in the siege of terra novels like a line of space marines in a trench(I think it was mostly white scars?) with an oncoming army of death guard, waiting till they were only 10 meters away before firing, what the fuck? These writers know fuck all about guns, vehicles, the military in general, and even historical conflicts. Especially with regard to Imperial Guard related grimderp, most of that shit is practically just WW1/II era fetish porn.
 
How was 6th edition? That seems to be one people remember.
Warhammer Fantasy used to be called herohammer for a reason. You'd usually spend as few points on troops as possible since it was all percentage based. So you'd have 2 to 4 small units of troops who ran in blocks. Then, you'd stuff your army with as much bullshit as possible from there. HQ units could delete half an army in a round of combat properly kitted out. Combat wasn't just you do 5 points of damage and I do 3. You'd have a combat resolution number where you'd take the difference as additional wounds. All the early GW games were convoluted as far as combat went mainly because the games were a lot smaller in terms of units. The cheapest army at the time was chaos, since you could literally run a 1500 point army out of like 2 or 3 boxes of troops and an HQ. That was still 200 dollars but pretty much everything else was 400 or 500 minimum with mostly metal models.
 
These writers know fuck all about guns, vehicles, the military in general, and even historical conflicts.
Yeah, but stuff like this is kind of normal if you took an autistic deep dive into how fiction is written. But that is, by far the worst shit that I've heard
 
Yeah, but stuff like this is kind of normal if you took an autistic deep dive into how fiction is written. But that is, by far the worst shit that I've heard

A lot of it comes from the earlier editions when legions were only 10,000 marines, tongue-in-cheek references and historical analogies for paint schemes and themes to create the background was just that, a loose framework to play/paint models, role dice and have fun. Couple of things changed that, one being the lawsuit and also the media landscape post 2001, when pretty much all fiction had to become more grounded/realistic.

I do find it funny to see criticism of this isn't how militaries work, even if taking the Guard as an example, were based upon WW1-WW2 approaches i.e the British at the Somme, brutality of Stalingrad or even Vietnam with the modern big tech army were held off by small guerilla actions. Now without getting into further sperging, a lot of the historical reviews of said actions highlight the rules of engagement, political will or restrictions of society led to the results and that is something that hasn't changed in the last 80 years when "Genocide" is a big thing and not just the way things used to be for thousands of years if anything that perspective is where the satirical viewpoint was focused upon, "Lions led by donkeys" which continues to this day.
 
I know I'm coming across as old-man-yells-at-cloud, but I think the problem is in part the internet. The "media literacy" types who believe this bizarre idea that any good, any kind of hope, is somehow anathema to the setting and will sperg out on the internet if their impossible demands aren't met.
That's what drew me to the Farsight Enclaves. In a sea of machiavellian schemers and outright monsters, I like the idea of playing as the singular and minuscule "Good Guy" faction.
 
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