Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

What is the point of this when there are only two companies with x86 licenses (and VIA, I guess). They say "Broadcom, Dell, Google, HPE, HP Inc, Lenovo, Microsoft, Oracle, and Red Hat. Tim Sweeney and Linus Torvalds are also involved." but what are they going to do?

Third parties will want to add new features, remove or prevent the removal of old features, and otherwise influence the direction of x86. Intel has been driving changes to x86, and recently proposed a 64-bit only "simplification" in the form of x86S. These companies (and people like Linus) are going to have strong thoughts on that. HP in particular co-developed Itanium with Intel.

AVX-512 has been a bit of a fiasco. Introduced to some Intel consumer platforms, only to be removed because of E-core difficulties, and planned for (optional) reintroduction later as AVX10. Meanwhile, AMD added support to all platforms starting with Zen 4, albeit with some divergence now with Zen 5 (Strix Point is still using double-pumped 256-bit).

 

[Markass the Worst]

Crosspost from Drew DeVault's thread:

To nobody's surprise, Drew DeVault is indeed the author of the Stallman Report.

How do I know? A KF user showed me a history of the certificates for drewdevault.com, which contains this:
View attachment 6531238
source (a)

Very suspicious, but not quite there yet. The link is dead. Fortunately, Wayback Machine has an archive, and would you look at that:

View attachment 6531246
(re-archived to archive.ph)

That's conclusive proof for me. Drew, your opsec is shitty as always. At least don't be a pussy and have the balls to publish this spergout under your name.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

What is the point of this when there are only two companies with x86 licenses

Well, it's old enough that you don't need a licence for all of it - any bits that are older than 20 years, the patents will have expired.

Third parties will want to add new features, remove or prevent the removal of old features, and otherwise influence the direction of x86. Intel has been driving changes to x86, and recently proposed a 64-bit only "simplification" in the form of x86S.

It's not 64-bit only: it'll still run 32-bit programs, just not 32-bit operating systems. I think Phoronix made this mistake when initially reporting on it, and everybody's been repeating it since. It's less radical than it sounds.

 

[CrunkLord420]

Quoi? Doesn't Stallman prefer gender-neutral neopronouns?

Yeah, RMS has his own autistic version of pronouns and dealing with tranny cognitive dissonances. That's the problem.

Better Genderless Pronouns in English

stallman.org

 

[Kola]

How is Lunduke a grifter?

Are you joking? He's trying to insert himself into any drama that's developing these days. When it comes to Linux he's the main "WATCH THIS VIDEO BEFORE THE LIBERALS CENSOR IT" guy.

 

[seri0us]

Are you joking? He's trying to insert himself into any drama that's developing these days. When it comes to Linux he's the main "WATCH THIS VIDEO BEFORE THE LIBERALS CENSOR IT" guy.

He's just documenting it. Is the Kiwi Farms (and by extension yourself) also guilty of grifting?

 

[jray4559]

He's just documenting it. Is the Kiwi Farms (and by extension yourself) also guilty of grifting?

To be fair, Lunduke is definitely one of those people that just happens to always cover very specific community dramas in a very specific (conservative-leaning) way, and prides himself on doing it. Whether you call that a grifter or not is up to you but to say that he isn't playing up the "look at these people forcing dumb forced diversity and anti-conservative views" angle every time it makes headlines is putting a blindfold on yourself. [I agree with his views, by the way, this isn't a hater's angle, just the reality of how he is]

 

[Battlefield42]

He's just documenting it. Is the Kiwi Farms (and by extension yourself) also guilty of grifting?

Null is a grifter confirmed

 

[Oxyjen]

Yeah, RMS has his own autistic version of pronouns and dealing with tranny cognitive dissonances. That's the problem.

Better Genderless Pronouns in English

stallman.org

In the book “The Cuckoo’s Egg” about an early computer hacker and the guy who caught him, published in 1989, the author does the alternating he she thing at times and I’ve seen it other writing too.

IMO this is down to the early pre-web internet being populated by academic hippies who were just trying not to be sexist.

I think that’s where RMS’s take is grounded too, but he’s trying to keep everyone happy by fixing something that isn’t really broken. You might as well propose everyone speak Esperanto or Klingon.

 

[vonnegrunt]

Same as stallman-report.org, Drew's server still has the TLS certificate for rms-draft-84eb252.drewdevault.com though the site is 404'd:

 

[TheDataHorder]

You might as well propose everyone speak Esperanto or Klingon.

the mailing lists would be filled with P'takh if this happened.

 

[i440BX]

It's not 64-bit only: it'll still run 32-bit programs, just not 32-bit operating systems. I think Phoronix made this mistake when initially reporting on it, and everybody's been repeating it since. It's less radical than it sounds.

I still don't like this change because it will break older operating systems like Windows XP. Maybe they will make some 16bit/32bit emulation.
That 64 bit only change isn't done because 32/16 bit occupies so much space on the die. They make it to be more cheaper to evaluate the CPU. Jewish behaviour IMO/ especially since Intel cut so much money for employees and facilities at work, but kept the salary high for the CEO.

 

[Caesar]

I still don't like this change because it will break older operating systems like Windows XP. Maybe they will make some 16bit/32bit emulation.

You're going to have more issues with modern hardware than just 32bit support though when running XP so it seems a bit moot?

 

[i440BX]

You're going to have more issues with modern hardware than just 32bit support though when running XP so it seems a bit moot?

I know people that work as Naval engineers and they have to use 20 year old software that runs on Windows XP 32 bit.

Windows XP Virtual machines are needed to run older software.

 

[Caesar]

I know people that work as Naval engineers and they have to use 20 year old software that runs on Windows XP 32 bit.

Yes on 20 year old hardware though. They're probably not doing so on the latest iSeries chip are they? Your old CPUs and software won't break because new CPUs have different standards.

 

[i440BX]

Yes on 20 year old hardware though. They're probably not doing so on the latest iSeries chip are they? Your old CPUs and software won't break because new CPUs have different standards.

They do it on Virtual Box. Virtual Box needs the full 32/16 bit instruction set to work.
They use modern laptops.

 

[Caesar]

They do it on Virtual Box. Virtual Box needs the full 32/16 bit instruction set to work.

I see what you mean now. I can't imagine there won't be commercial software solutions for that. Plus, say they build a new system tomorrow to run it - that gives them plenty of time on working hardware to finally drop XP era stuff.

 

[CircuSphere]

Who even gives a flying fuck about Godot? What the fuck actual games have been created in it that even matter?

Rings of Saturn is supposed to be good.

Redot is going to be a hot mess though, Godot itself apparently a steaming pile of tech debt and the Redot people are fully centered on discord and obsessed with being 'neutral' even while the train is moving out from underneath them and the main project is actively working to infiltrate and sabotage. IF it does get off the ground it will be as pozzed as the main project within a year or two.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

They do it on Virtual Box. Virtual Box needs the full 32/16 bit instruction set to work.
They use modern laptops.

I can't speak for Virtual Box, but Qemu will run absolutely anything. It's better for all the legacy modes to be in software, rather than forcing you to pay for it in the hardware.

 

[i440BX]

I can't speak for Virtual Box, but Qemu will run absolutely anything. It's better for all the legacy modes to be in software, rather than forcing you to pay for it in the hardware.

Never played with Qemu, since I used Vmware. Does Qemu support adkustable screen resolution?
Like in Vmware where the screen of the guest os fits in the window?

I liked that Vmware/Virtual Box has native CPU performance.