Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Chris Tyson's ex watches him put their toddler son in heels on social media.

I haven't even heard that part, Chris Tyson gaining custody of the children.

Even aside from the fact that he's an obvious nonce who loves loli porn and jacked off to his own son pooping in the tub, troonery should automatically disqualify you from winning any custody battle.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

I haven't even heard that part, Chris Tyson gaining custody of the children.

They share custody. This was on one of Chris's days. The picture is quoted below.

This one?
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You don't hate troons enough. You think you do, but you just don't

G-d speed Katie to her sole-custody victory.

 

[Kiislova]

Anyway his #1 goal in life is to be a father

still dead-set on estrogen

He will put a kid on you then fully troon out.
See: This fucking thread

 

[salt]

The persecution historical narrative, the Talmud claiming that there's actually six genders, and the part in the Torah telling followers to cut up the penises of their newborns

OK so I’m going to sperg a bit on Judaism here, but the “six genders” thing is broadly and extremely misinterpreted by libs and trannies. Basically, it’s a way to categorize different kinds of intersex conditions (or things imposed later in life, like castration) and how those folks fit in to Judaism, which has an extremely binary concept of gender roles and responsibilities. Men do certain things, women do certain things.

“Does a guy who got castrated or someone born with indeterminate genitalia count as a man or a woman in a practical/ritual sense?” is different than the Talmud being trans affirming or whatever. It’s actually sort of the opposite.

It has nothing to do with feelings and everything to do with biological sex and making things fit in a ritual/religious binary. The rabbis were just noodling through some weird edge cases because the Talmud is all about that shit.

 

[BoomerSperg1922]

he's upset because he has basically no thighs/ass to speak of, but can't this part just be fixed in the gym?

Yeah, it's a little known exercise called squats.

Taking cross-sex hormones does more than kill fertility, it can lower IQ and cause brittle bone syndrome among a host of other issues.

 

[Super Guido]

OK so I’m going to sperg a bit on Judaism here, but the “six genders” thing is broadly and extremely misinterpreted by libs and trannies. Basically, it’s a way to categorize different kinds of intersex conditions (or things imposed later in life, like castration) and how those folks fit in to Judaism, which has an extremely binary concept of gender roles and responsibilities. Men do certain things, women do certain things.

“Does a guy who got castrated or someone born with indeterminate genitalia count as a man or a woman in a practical/ritual sense?” is different than the Talmud being trans affirming or whatever. It’s actually sort of the opposite.

It has nothing to do with feelings and everything to do with biological sex and making things fit in a ritual/religious binary. The rabbis were just noodling through some weird edge cases because the Talmud is all about that shit.

They like to pretend transgenderism is the same as being intersex even though I'd be willing to bet 99.99 percent of them don't have an intersex condition. They just jack off in their little sister's panties and hide them under their bed.

They can lie to themselves all they want, but disorders of sexual development make up a tiny, tiny minority of transgenderism. I want to say those initial surgeries are less common than they used to be due to changing standards on how babies with ambiguous genitals are treated, but I could be wrong.

 

[Free the Pedos]

Yes. 100% yes. I’ve met so many TIMs and TIFs “converting” to Judaism in the past couple years. Hence why I stopped going to the local Jewish events in my area

I was going to say “go to Chabad”, because the specter of orthodoxy keeps those types away, but then I saw that you’re gay so that is probably not a comfy option. I’m genuinely sorry you’re stuck in the middle like this. Non orthodox Jewish options are so totally full of libshittery. (And the orthodox options have their own problems, but it’s not troons.)

 

[Fapcop]

My concerns were basically him having bit into gender ideology and dressing like a creep, but he only seems to have taken half the pronoun pill and seems willing to lay off the anime girl gear?

Don’t listen, watch.

People say a lot of things, especially when pressed. It’s their actions that are inportant.

And sorry to say, but if someone was determined with going on hormones, while saying that “oh, pronouns aren’t that important!” I’d probably nope the f out.

Easy to say, I know.

How old is he if I may ask? Late 20ies?

I’m not saying he can’t be saved, but I am saying it’s a long shot.

This all sounds so incredibly unhealthy, and like a refusal to grow up and fundamental discomfort with himself. Teenagers play make believe and put great importance how people see them.

I may be old fashioned, but I do believe that when you’re in a commited relationship and ESPECIALLY if you have children, you should be focused on your partner and kids and not whether you have ass and thighs.

Sorry

I don’t know if any other lesbians in this thread have had this conversation before where you ask yourself why don’t I just go along? Why don’t I just be non binary or start micro doing t so I can finally fit in?

Move to Europe, lol.

You bitch basic pooner seems to be very rare here. That’s the impression I get from the lesbians I know.

Spoiler

Also: Hope you voted. There’s only one choice this election if you’re tired of men in women’s sport, trans insanity and women pooning out.
If you like the way things are going, then by all means vote for Kamala and get four more years of clown world and tranny shit. If you want to Make Tomboys/Butch Lesbians Great Again, then vote Trump.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Slight and necessarily vague update:

Have discovered, through annoying and painful means, at least one of the adult groomers involved in ongoing family situation. A trusted professional with a license number that can be cited on a complaint. Once the coast is clear this individual's dox and extremely cringe and compromising socials (already collected and curated) will appear somewhere on this site at a randomly chosen time. I won't mention the personal connection when it happens.

These people must be held accountable.

 

[Fapcop]

Slight and necessarily vague update:

Have discovered, through annoying and painful means, at least one of the adult groomers involved in ongoing family situation. A trusted professional with a license number that can be cited on a complaint. Once the coast is clear this individual's dox and extremely cringe and compromising socials (already collected and curated) will appear somewhere on this site at a randomly chosen time. I won't mention the personal connection when it happens.

These people must be held accountable.

I fucking KNEW IT! There’s always some ratfaced degenerate pulling the strings.

You might as well call the cops and report CP on their computer because as sure as the sun will rise in the morning there’ll be some on there.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I fucking KNEW IT! There’s always some ratfaced degenerate pulling the strings.

You might as well call the cops and report CP on their computer because as sure as the sun will rise in the morning there’ll be some on there.

Yeah. In addition to this person's job working with kids, he she or zey is a "chaser" or at least enthusiast. That fills in a lot of blanks.

 

[soup peddler]

How old is he if I may ask? Late 20ies?

I’m not saying he can’t be saved, but I am saying it’s a long shot.

This all sounds so incredibly unhealthy, and like a refusal to grow up and fundamental discomfort with himself. Teenagers play make believe and put great importance how people see them.

I may be old fashioned, but I do believe that when you’re in a committed relationship and ESPECIALLY if you have children, you should be focused on your partner and kids and not whether you have ass and thighs.

He's 24, and yeah, I'll see how his general behavior changes based on our conversation... in the past week he's stopped wearing skirts completely, which has been better. Frankly I'm also kind of low on hope it'll work out, I'm just currently focused on some personal projects right now so I'm fine with waiting and seeing what happens.

I thoroughly do not understand his hormones decision. He is so concerned about his physique/ building muscle... it's just like, are you stupid? Do you not understand the impact of testosterone on the human body? It's just not adding up, and it makes me suspicious of 1) how honest he's being with his goals and 2) his overall ability to reason like an adult.

He will put a kid on you then fully troon out.
See: This fucking thread

The idea of this is fully terrifying... I would definitely not get more committed with him unless he's got a 2 years sober from trooning coin at least

 

[glass_houses]

The idea of this is fully terrifying... I would definitely not get more committed with him unless he's got a 2 years sober from trooning coin at least

If your birth control is pills and/or condoms... hide them. Baby trapping is an equal opportunity crime.

Every day that passes, I become more and more convinced that troonery is some shady world government conspiracy.

 

[soup peddler]

If your birth control is pills and/or condoms... hide them. Baby trapping is an equal opportunity crime.

I've had IUDs for five years running and will keep one until I intentionally have children with a man who is not trooning out....

God this whole thing has sucked. I agree that even if someone plays along when they think they need to, people who are desperate or bored or feel shitty will run to the thing they really, really, really want to do, even if it's destructive. Even if he decides not to go through with trooning now, I could almost never fully trust that he wouldn't as like a mid-life crisis unless the US wakes up and bans these gender experiments/ public opinion goes so far south it's complete social suicide.

 

[Fapcop]

I thoroughly do not understand his hormones decision. He is so concerned about his physique/ building muscle... it's just like, are you stupid? Do you not understand the impact of testosterone on the human body? It's just not adding up, and it makes me suspicious of 1) how honest he's being with his goals and 2) his overall ability to reason like an adult.

He wants to take estrogen or testosterone?

I’m kinda 50/50 here. He’s only 24. Sometimes young men do some really retarded stuff. Have a fear of becoming adults. It’s something they usually grow out of.

On the other hand… The whole focus on OTHER people perceiving him as feminine sometimes is really weird and immature.

It speaks to some deep internal insecurity, unhappiness. Except… He’s not 16 and wanting people to perceive him as angry with a FUCK DA SYSTEM t shirt. He’s goddamn 24!

Also the whole hormone thing. Among the top of his priorities should be you. And his possible kids. Not whether… He has an ass. (WTF?!?)

How is his future time orientation and employment? Like suppose you got knocked up tomorrow. Can he imagine himself picking up the kids from school as a thirty two year old? Or will he worry if he has enough of an ass?

Does he work? Have career plans?

I really wish the best for you, and sometimes young men can be so intimated by the whole adult life thing that they lose themselves in this weird fantasy life of being a Futa or “non binary” and all that nonsense.

Could be that, which isn’t unfixable.

But the whole “Yeah, I’m gonna go on hormones! Here’s a guy who says it’s totally cool on YouTube!” Is very concerning.

I think you should make an deadline for yourself, without telling him.

You do not want to end up as neither a troon widow, now a woman who spent her 20ies hoping and waiting, and suddenly realizing that you’re 32 and your ovaries are ringing like an alarm clock.

 

[Fapcop]

If your birth control is pills and/or condoms... hide them. Baby trapping is an equal opportunity crime.

Every day that passes, I become more and more convinced that troonery is some shady world government conspiracy.

Not just baby trapping but… Relationship trapping.

Women are often hesitant to pull the exit button on a relationship they’ve invested a lot into.

I saw a post today that perfectly exemplifies it.

It’s long, but TLDR: Couple has been together for six years.

*Originally plans for the girl to be a stay at home wife.
*Girl works to support her bf while he’s in school until then.
*BF troons out. GF concerned but “supportive”.
*Boyfriend finishes school, but gf is somehow STILL working to support them both.
*SAHM plan somehow went POOF!
*Boyfriend needs the best makeup and clothes, GF stressed financially, never buys anything for herself.
*BF goes out a lot with “girlfriends”.
Etc etc You’ve seen it so many times before.

Often times these assholes don’t even need a baby to trap someone, they just gradually turn up the tranny temperature.

 

[FedPostalService]

Not just baby trapping but… Relationship trapping.

Women are often hesitant to pull the exit button on a relationship they’ve invested a lot into.

I saw a post today that perfectly exemplifies it.

It’s long, but TLDR: Couple has been together for six years.

*Originally plans for the girl to be a stay at home wife.
*Girl works to support her bf while he’s in school until then.
*BF troons out. GF concerned but “supportive”.
*Boyfriend finishes school, but gf is somehow STILL working to support them both.
*SAHM plan somehow went POOF!
*Boyfriend needs the best makeup and clothes, GF stressed financially, never buys anything for herself.
*BF goes out a lot with “girlfriends”.
Etc etc You’ve seen it so many times before.

Often times these assholes don’t even need a baby to trap someone, they just gradually turn up the tranny temperature.


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Part of me thinks “you get what you fucking deserve” when I see these posts but then I have to remember that this women are not only in deeply abusive relationships but a large section of society is cheering on the abuser and would ostracise the victim if she gets the courage to leave.

I hate Clown World.

 

[soup peddler]

He wants to take estrogen or testosterone?

He wants to take estrogen even though he wants to gain more muscle than he currently has, which doesn't make any sense. He works out minimally right now, and without testosterone he would just waste muscle like no one's business.

Does he work? Have career plans?

He finished his program last a year and a half ago and was working for the last year, and I am about to finish mine and apply to PhD programs in my field. Essentially he's at a crossroads where he has a degree but is undecided about whether to continue in the kind of lukewarm career he's been working in or go back to school for something more specialized. Sometimes he talks about how his ideal life is to be a stay at home parent while WFH in some capacity... and while theoretically this idea kind of lines up because I don't want to be a SAHM but want kids, I sometimes worry that it's a red flag.

I worry because I'm a very sentimental and risk-averse person who could easily become "relationship trapped" as you put it, and at this point I hope but don't trust that he can overcome the transition impulses enough to accomplish our actual goals. I've only had one major relationship before this and breaking up was an agonizing process that took like four months, and I like my boyfriend a lot more than him. Not to mention that he is an original member of the friend group we started in college and it would cause a huge emotional schism that would tank our social lives. Setting a mental deadline would probably be really helpful... maybe in the summer when I'd have to move for a new program anyway?

He has the values and the "fighting spirit" to be a great man, great father, productive member of society, etc, but he is trying to figure out what life direction would make him happy, and found this Troon Pipeline that is lined with porn, glamor, and abandoning responsibilities. Plus it's way easier for him to fall into it right now because he likes being androgynous and is still trying to figure out how to express that in how he dresses.

This whole movement is really a curse. Fucks up lives.

 

[missnaptime]

fem autist here. i used to think i was 'non binary'; i wanted a double mastectomy, the works. thankfully, i grew out of it, and i'm comfortable in my identity and knowing i'm a woman, who just happens to like being buff, having muscles, and doing some stereotypically 'male' things.

i was a pretty lonely teenager, i have a history of loneliness, depression, anxiety, because i was sped and had different interests from normal people. i got into a digital lgbt friendgroup, and then, that was that. my entire formative years from around 14 onwards were entirely online, because i didn't have any irl friends to connect with.

you wouldn't believe some of the degeneracy i've seen. men sleeping on dog beds, calling themselves 'foxdog girls', barking, men identifying as a puppy, proudly announcing they have 'zoomies' (yes, really); did fakers who claim to have the fucking kamen riders and for some fucking reason doctor who as alters, a man who refers to himself as 'it' and 'this one'....

i know these people. i have met some of them in real life. the lot of them are riddled with mental illness and come from broken homes. one of my housemates is actually a really chill troon who is super nice. he's been the only normal one i've been able to find.

i feel like i'm going insane. i have nobody i can talk to about this. i spoke to a literal priest for guidance and he's drunk the koolaid, but stated that 'if it was his child, he would think a lot more deeply and seriously about the matter'.

just what do i do? i feel like i'm watching a trainwreck in slow motion. do i exit quietly, do i try and say something? i've been pulling away for a while now, but tits impacting my health and i'm scared of the ramifictions it could have for me.

 

[Fapcop]

Sometimes he talks about how his ideal life would to be a stay at home parent while WFH in some capacity... and while theoretically this idea kind of lines up because I don't want to be a SAHM but want kids, I sometimes worry that it's a red flag.

I’ve been a SAHD and it’s NOT as easy and fun as it sounds.

He has the values and the "fighting spirit" to be a great man, great father, productive member of society, etc, but he is trying to figure out what life direction would make him happy, and found this Troon Pipeline that is lined with porn, glamor, and abandoning responsibilities. Plus it's way easier for him to fall into it right now because he likes being androgynous and is still trying to figure out how to express that in how he dresses.

Sounds like he’s prone to fantasies and kinda living in his head?

Maybe you should, besides an internal deadline, try to nudge him along a little bit.

How does he imagine his “androgynous look” looks like when he’s 30? 40?

What about when he’s balding? And has a dad bod? How would he avoid it? How does he see his life in a decade?

Hopefully that would break through to him a little bit, and make him realize that life is long, and what seems important when you’re 24 is pretty ridiculous to focus on.

Or it could possibly reveal to you whether there’s hope or not.