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That would explain why Korean media is so painfully lame.
(I don't care about the negrates)
Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser
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That would explain why Korean media is so painfully lame.
(I don't care about the negrates)
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I enjoyed it.
It is basically a story of why do we fight when we all are just the same. Later seasons is definitely affected by modern happenings in eastern europe and the middle east.
The time travel thing was a bit cringe, a bit overdoing, and there always have to be the twists like, "I am winning, Now I am winning, no I was actually winning the whole time."
He should have skipped the timestuff, also Ymir being in love was a bit cheap. Probably hard to keep track of everything. Atleast it is not as fucked up as GOT.
Also I like to draw a parallell to ME3 here.
Casey Hudson thought he could write a superending to Me3 that would make him a god. But he could not, instead he fucked up the franchise.
Also, Starwars the original trilogy was a collaborative work, but the prequel was George Lucas working himself with a bunch of yes-sayers.
What I am trying to get to is that: sometimes everything gets to big for one person to keep a check on all details. Then you need more than one person to keep track of the whole and get it all to work.
It is basically a story of why do we fight when we all are just the same. Later seasons is definitely affected by modern happenings in eastern europe and the middle east.
The time travel thing was a bit cringe, a bit overdoing, and there always have to be the twists like, "I am winning, Now I am winning, no I was actually winning the whole time."
He should have skipped the timestuff, also Ymir being in love was a bit cheap. Probably hard to keep track of everything. Atleast it is not as fucked up as GOT.
Also I like to draw a parallell to ME3 here.
Casey Hudson thought he could write a superending to Me3 that would make him a god. But he could not, instead he fucked up the franchise.
Also, Starwars the original trilogy was a collaborative work, but the prequel was George Lucas working himself with a bunch of yes-sayers.
What I am trying to get to is that: sometimes everything gets to big for one person to keep a check on all details. Then you need more than one person to keep track of the whole and get it all to work.
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Nevermind, it's just a fucking compilation movie.
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1) Oh hey, they're doing what they should've done years ago.
2) Speaking of years, it's been three. LET IT FUCKING DIE.
3) If my understanding of this is correct, this is literally just a compilation movie with touched-up animation, and nothing else. You can already find those online.
4) On the off chance that there is new content, they should've, again, released this years ago.
5) Thank you, MAPPA, for fucking giving AOEfags (which had finally, finally shut the fuck up) another thing to cope, and seethe about for our sake. What an animation studio you are.
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The names they have to give these seasons and everything is just fucking hilarious.
“LAST SEASON PART THREE FIRST HALF HD REMIX & KNUCKLES: THE SEQUEL”
“LAST SEASON PART THREE FIRST HALF HD REMIX & KNUCKLES: THE SEQUEL”
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Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series!
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Of course it doesn’t. I feel like whatever issues one might have with the American entertainment industry, Japan (and maybe South Korea) do it ten times worse.
And you thought Disney milking Star Wars for streaming content was bad.
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Hi yes hello I'd like to necro this thread to give my opinions on Attack on Titan.
I finished the anime this month and read through a bit of this thread with the highlight feature but there's far too many highlights and far too many interesting posts for me to comb through and I don't feel like writing a book so I only snagged one particular comment from early on and that might be subject to change.
I have a weird relationship with Attack on Titan. I watched the anime a while ago when it was still in the second season, and read the manga for a teensy bit because i was bored waiting for more of the anime. In terms of the manga I read to a certain point, where one particular moment just utterly killed the series for me. Of course like many I assume who gave up on the series it was during the dog murder part of the manga. I was extremely uncomfortable, I maybe lingered to see child soldiers calling their own people dogs a few times and then quit. "holy shit this is anti-semitic" I said. Skip to several years later and I watched a video or two discussing further down the series and I challenged myself to see the anime through.
Knowing about the dog scene meant a little bit of mental preparing. If you look through quite a few of my posts on the forum you'll find quickly that I find anti-semitism disgusting and have little patience for hatred of jews. So I harnessed a stupid skill I learned in a college gen-ed called "bracketing." What is it? It's when you take all of your beliefs and opinions and put them in a box, safe and snug, in order to allow you to engage with another culture or belief system without your implicit bias. Very simply I went into the series this time saying none of it is connected to anything in reality, and it is simply it's own story for me to engage with. It helped and allowed me to get through it. This time I made it all the way to the end, very excited to engage with the cringe and see it through.
About halfway through the kingdom of Marley arc it just sorta became silly to me. It felt less like a Jewish allegory as it was so over the top. You would not have seen Polish ghetto Jew children being the vanguard on the Nazi lines. Many within the ghettos were explicitly anti-nazi through and through, and throughout the Jewish community there is still very hearty debate regarding Partisan actions. This most recent Passover while at a friend's dinner I actually got to hear her father's opinion on Partisans as the son of those from the ghettos who lost family, and he actually did not approve of the actions of the partisans. Much like some of the conversation regarding the concepts in the show he believed that the act to commit violence should never be celebrated, and while at temple the following week we discussed it further and he extrapolated that, while they are not heroes, the actions were necessary. All of this leads me to my belief that much of it is based in aesthetics and ties much more into connections to Japanese history, where Japanese in Shanghai were made to live in concentration zones and wear armbands while they were awaiting to be returned to the homeland. Within the Jewish community there is not exactly hatred present for the martyrs of the ghettos. You do not see that idea of a jewish child calling their ancestors devils and desiring the eradication of their people. It just doesn't fit quite right.
So all of this leads to the finale. Hot Garbage.
I'm fine with the rumbling. I think it's what an antagonist would do. I love how the different characters get their chances to shine. I love Jean and Connie's bromance. I enjoyed their characters throughout and to see them get to the end was great. What I don't like is that Isayama didn't have the heart to have Eren just own it. He should've been consumed by hate and freedom, the idea that the outside world would never let them live in peace. Instead of Armin thanking him in the end and everyone being like happy with him it should've been berating him. "Every time we faced adversity, every wall we hit we overcame by finding a way. Peace might not work, but we have to try." It was frustrating to have them looking at Eren like he was some wholesome chungus dude. The Avengers weren't calling Thanos a real mensch in the end so why should the Cringevengers. I don't know how you fix it. Have the rumbling happen and and they berate him, have them stop it fairly early on and shame him for being a tard? I dunno. The point should've been that the Cringevengers did exactly what Eren thought the world couldn't do: come together. That doesn't make Eren a hero. I also would've liked more pushback from the Paradis military against the Yaegerists but they all got turned into Titans.
All in all I think there's a ton of good stuff, mixed with some questionable stuff, capped off with some utter garbo that at least fulfilled my desire for edgy cringe. Mikasa kissing Eren and keeping his head to go bury it was great for what it was, not for the reason's it was written that way. Pieck, Connie, Jean, and a few others were great and I liked how there really wasn't heroes. War does have two sides and it's interesting to see a series attempt to discuss that aspect. It's clunky and that's a bummer. I have no opinions on inherent fascism and direct allegories, since as I said I had to put a lot of stuff in my little box to make it through and I think locking yourself into analyzing it through direct connections to real life leads to problems. The Ymir stuff to me was just like mythos stuff. I didn't put too much thought into it while watching and just sorta viewed it Loki or Odin doing shenanigans. I don't think people were generally mad at *her* just for letting pigs out, rather they were made that the eldian race went on to subjegate the world for thousands of years through the use of the titans. Maybe I was missing something. Also the time stuff was just eh to me. I think you could've ignored it outright and just had Eren perpetuating a cycle of violence in an effort to achieve FREEDUM. Doesn't make things complicated, but I don't know how you rewrite the stuff from season 2 with Dina to keep that fixed, as that happens because of time shenanigans.
One last thing. Great music. Loved all of it except the rumbling rap, but at that point it was just a little comical because again, for me Eren was already the villain and it felt like a hype song you'd hear before a fighter walks into a boxing ring. A little too on the nose. Would I watch it again? First 3 seasons for sure, season 4 and the endings I'd want to watch with friends to make jokes and get wasted. I would not hang out with the losers online that like Eren.
That is all!
I finished the anime this month and read through a bit of this thread with the highlight feature but there's far too many highlights and far too many interesting posts for me to comb through and I don't feel like writing a book so I only snagged one particular comment from early on and that might be subject to change.
I have a weird relationship with Attack on Titan. I watched the anime a while ago when it was still in the second season, and read the manga for a teensy bit because i was bored waiting for more of the anime. In terms of the manga I read to a certain point, where one particular moment just utterly killed the series for me. Of course like many I assume who gave up on the series it was during the dog murder part of the manga. I was extremely uncomfortable, I maybe lingered to see child soldiers calling their own people dogs a few times and then quit. "holy shit this is anti-semitic" I said. Skip to several years later and I watched a video or two discussing further down the series and I challenged myself to see the anime through.
Knowing about the dog scene meant a little bit of mental preparing. If you look through quite a few of my posts on the forum you'll find quickly that I find anti-semitism disgusting and have little patience for hatred of jews. So I harnessed a stupid skill I learned in a college gen-ed called "bracketing." What is it? It's when you take all of your beliefs and opinions and put them in a box, safe and snug, in order to allow you to engage with another culture or belief system without your implicit bias. Very simply I went into the series this time saying none of it is connected to anything in reality, and it is simply it's own story for me to engage with. It helped and allowed me to get through it. This time I made it all the way to the end, very excited to engage with the cringe and see it through.
About halfway through the kingdom of Marley arc it just sorta became silly to me. It felt less like a Jewish allegory as it was so over the top. You would not have seen Polish ghetto Jew children being the vanguard on the Nazi lines. Many within the ghettos were explicitly anti-nazi through and through, and throughout the Jewish community there is still very hearty debate regarding Partisan actions. This most recent Passover while at a friend's dinner I actually got to hear her father's opinion on Partisans as the son of those from the ghettos who lost family, and he actually did not approve of the actions of the partisans. Much like some of the conversation regarding the concepts in the show he believed that the act to commit violence should never be celebrated, and while at temple the following week we discussed it further and he extrapolated that, while they are not heroes, the actions were necessary. All of this leads me to my belief that much of it is based in aesthetics and ties much more into connections to Japanese history, where Japanese in Shanghai were made to live in concentration zones and wear armbands while they were awaiting to be returned to the homeland. Within the Jewish community there is not exactly hatred present for the martyrs of the ghettos. You do not see that idea of a jewish child calling their ancestors devils and desiring the eradication of their people. It just doesn't fit quite right.
So what did I think of the show? Season 1 is phenomenal. It's great. Season 2 in my opinion is fantastic. I liked the twist. I liked the moment on the wall where Reiner and Bertholt just come out and say it. It's so nonchallant. It's not even a big deal. So much intrigue and tension in the next few moments and it's sold well. Zeke and his actions throughout terrify me (I have a fear of Bigfoot so the beast titan sets me off quite a bit). I thought the weird PATHs stuff was odd but maybe it would go somewhere. Season 3 I enjoyed for the most part. I liked the idea that the Scouts are now fighting people. It's this uncomfortable moment. It harkens back to season one where they're complaining about martial training and fighting with a dagger. "Who cares, this won't stop a titan." That horror as Armin, the little bowl boy of peace is the first to draw blood in the recruits. The stuff under the cathedral was okay I guess, to me it just pads time between the Warriors x Scouts fight I really wanted. I liked Erwin's charge. The chaos and horror of it. The moment they return from the expedition successful and stand atop the wall with barely anyone left from when the platoon set out was great. Every time the scouts return it's a shame. It's a loss. People are angry. Despite this when they return it's a celebration. They're heroes. For a change it's clear: the sacrifice wasn't in vain. The lead up to the ocean is great, and I think if you really want to duck out a decent point to end the series. I love the shift in Eren. In my opinion it's when he became the antagonist. I did not view him as a hero any more. His line before the crawling titan where he says "He's a patriot" was great. It highlighted his shift in thinking and is only exacerbated by what he says at the sea. It's dark, in the right way.
So season 4... with bracketing I thought it was decent up towards the end. There were things I thought were good and things I thought were just "eh." Again I was already sold on Eren as an antagonist. I don't think you're supposed to view him through a protagonist's lens at this point. I was okay with Gabi and Falco. I was completely removed from the fandom and do not really understand the hate but I also was not in the thick of it at the time. Gabi acts as this foil to Eren but comes to different conclusions. To highlight the horrid indoctrination the Eldian children go through she's certainly hammed up a bit but it drives the point home and allows for good character development. Which brings me to one thing I wanted to highlight:
Season 4 also allowed my favorite character a spotlight. Pieck is great. I loved her character as it highlighted the line Eldians must walk in Marley. She's honest when she expresses she has no love for Marley so her and Gabi are taken to Eren. She's also honest in what she says upon betraying Eren: I have no love for Marley, but I care for those I've fought with: For her it's the gunners that ride her, the general who values her input and even sacrifices himself so the cringevengers can get away. Great moment as well where the Recruit trainer and him have their little team up. Same character across different sides. The duality of war etc. etc.
The event with Sasha I thought was decently done. I don't think her family "shits" on her. Rather they're understanding. She was always in the forest hunting, and one day she wouldn't return. When she became a soldier and this war expanded they understood she might do terrible things, and the point of this little side plot is that her family tries to be better. They see how Gabi and Falco have been abused, how they see this life, and they choose to forgive and shoulder the loss rather than perpetuate it. It's why the girl Sasha saved is around. It perpetuates this cycle of violence and shows Gabi that "island devils" are people too. What is fair? What is just? Who is right, and who is wrong? Not involved with the fandom so I don't have any broader connections or opinions. Sasha was just a fun character throughout.
Season 4 also allowed my favorite character a spotlight. Pieck is great. I loved her character as it highlighted the line Eldians must walk in Marley. She's honest when she expresses she has no love for Marley so her and Gabi are taken to Eren. She's also honest in what she says upon betraying Eren: I have no love for Marley, but I care for those I've fought with: For her it's the gunners that ride her, the general who values her input and even sacrifices himself so the cringevengers can get away. Great moment as well where the Recruit trainer and him have their little team up. Same character across different sides. The duality of war etc. etc.
So all of this leads to the finale. Hot Garbage.
I'm fine with the rumbling. I think it's what an antagonist would do. I love how the different characters get their chances to shine. I love Jean and Connie's bromance. I enjoyed their characters throughout and to see them get to the end was great. What I don't like is that Isayama didn't have the heart to have Eren just own it. He should've been consumed by hate and freedom, the idea that the outside world would never let them live in peace. Instead of Armin thanking him in the end and everyone being like happy with him it should've been berating him. "Every time we faced adversity, every wall we hit we overcame by finding a way. Peace might not work, but we have to try." It was frustrating to have them looking at Eren like he was some wholesome chungus dude. The Avengers weren't calling Thanos a real mensch in the end so why should the Cringevengers. I don't know how you fix it. Have the rumbling happen and and they berate him, have them stop it fairly early on and shame him for being a tard? I dunno. The point should've been that the Cringevengers did exactly what Eren thought the world couldn't do: come together. That doesn't make Eren a hero. I also would've liked more pushback from the Paradis military against the Yaegerists but they all got turned into Titans.
All in all I think there's a ton of good stuff, mixed with some questionable stuff, capped off with some utter garbo that at least fulfilled my desire for edgy cringe. Mikasa kissing Eren and keeping his head to go bury it was great for what it was, not for the reason's it was written that way. Pieck, Connie, Jean, and a few others were great and I liked how there really wasn't heroes. War does have two sides and it's interesting to see a series attempt to discuss that aspect. It's clunky and that's a bummer. I have no opinions on inherent fascism and direct allegories, since as I said I had to put a lot of stuff in my little box to make it through and I think locking yourself into analyzing it through direct connections to real life leads to problems. The Ymir stuff to me was just like mythos stuff. I didn't put too much thought into it while watching and just sorta viewed it Loki or Odin doing shenanigans. I don't think people were generally mad at *her* just for letting pigs out, rather they were made that the eldian race went on to subjegate the world for thousands of years through the use of the titans. Maybe I was missing something. Also the time stuff was just eh to me. I think you could've ignored it outright and just had Eren perpetuating a cycle of violence in an effort to achieve FREEDUM. Doesn't make things complicated, but I don't know how you rewrite the stuff from season 2 with Dina to keep that fixed, as that happens because of time shenanigans.
One last thing. Great music. Loved all of it except the rumbling rap, but at that point it was just a little comical because again, for me Eren was already the villain and it felt like a hype song you'd hear before a fighter walks into a boxing ring. A little too on the nose. Would I watch it again? First 3 seasons for sure, season 4 and the endings I'd want to watch with friends to make jokes and get wasted. I would not hang out with the losers online that like Eren.
That is all!
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You are soft as fuck, my jewish nigga.
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AOT is still being milked
New movie is going to have a post credits scene that adapts that meta school castes chapter about the ending
And there's going to be a fucking worldwide concert next year
New movie is going to have a post credits scene that adapts that meta school castes chapter about the ending
And there's going to be a fucking worldwide concert next year
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If I can listen to some Linked Horizon, I'm cool with that.
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What's frustrating is his friends and allies betraying him, and along with him their literal only hope of survival aside from blind faith in the goodness of humanity and hoping for mercy.
What's doubly frustrating is Eren being an absolute mess of a character, planning for them to kill him on purpose, what a retarded twist. Isayama also unnecessarily made Eren insane for no reason, it doesn't even impact the story, it's literally just tacked on at the end, "btw I'm a fucking lunatic who wanted to destroy the world for some vague reason, not just to protect Paradis, oh and I also killed my mom".
To be fair, it's implied that he's influenced by Ymir and driven crazy by his warped perception of time, but it still doesn't add anything at all. You could cut this stuff entirely and nothing would change. It's basically there solely to mitigate the damage to Eren's character because some readers viewed him as a villain for the Rumbling, so it's like an excuse for him.
Isayama had no conviction, that's why his story sucked. You can further see this with the tweaks the anime made in attempt to appease complaints. He's a coward and shitty writer, at least, he certainly doesn't know how to end something.
What a boring addition. If they're going to try to lure people in with the promise of a new scene it should be something worthwhile, something new. Glad to see the string of bad decisions continues.
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I see nothing wrong with that. They had a plan and he actively started to shirk it and surrounded himself with the Jaegerists who attempted to kill them. You can't betray someone that has already betrayed you.
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They didn't have a plan, they had a suicide pact that nobody with a brain and sense of self-preservation would even remotely consider given the circumstances and history.
I'm not sure what you mean by him betraying them, unless you mean the shit he did to make his friends hate him so they'd kill him. He didn't try to kill them or anything.
Since you love Jews so much, it'd be like if there was a super Jew who could stop the Holocaust by wiping out every German, but his buddies were like "nah we can talk this out" and then killed him, and then were genocided.
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Lets be real that would never happen.
Everyone would agree with wiping out the Germans, just look at what they are doing in current year.
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He ditched his friends on the spying mission to go rogue only to send them cryptic letters saying "if you don't show up on this day I'm going in alone." This act gets several friends and allies killed, has him attacking both a mixture of hard and soft targets, something that would likely be considered a war crime, and doesn't care in the slightest about his companions. He and the Jaegarists conspire and turn the vast majority of the Paradisian military into Titans, attempt to kill Levi, and threatens his old crew with death when they say it's wrong.
He betrayed his friends.
On the flip side, his friends were in negotiations with the Japanese standins, attempting to plan some solutions, and attempting to find some opportunities to discuss with other nations to try and come to a solution. There was the partial Rumbling that was discussed and would've resulted in targeting hard targets in Marley and not the omnicide of the entire planet. It is not a suicide pact. It's not being brash.
Since you clearly don't get the point let's take a look at your retarded argument: If there was a super Jew that could murder every German, wouldn't it prove the Germans correct? That they needed to systematically execute us for their own safety? Is the defense of their people not as justified at that point as the defense of our people? This is something I highlighted in my original post. There are people that don't consider partisans heroes because they did some horrorible shit too.
Violence begets more violence, and at *every* juncture taking a chance at communicating prevents something in the microcosm. They could've just shot Eren at the beginning instead of hearing Armin out. They could've just killed him at the trial, but Levi stepped in and
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But in Attack on Titan the Germans were continually breeding super-jew-giants and using them as weapons and making them 'Honorary Germans'. So the entire premise is idiotic and everyone in the series behaves contrary to their own self interests. It's like knowing that the Trojan Horse was filled with fighters and then telling them to build a few more to bring into the city.
The entire premise of the series is idiotic and the ending is fitting. You have entire nations of people arming their enemies continually until they wipe each other out over course of centuries or millennia. The people outside of the Walls spend centuries building war machines then enslaving and imprisoning a group of people who have 'rumbling' capability and just hoping that the slaves never revolt. The island people instead of rumbling their enemies to extinction decide to leave enough of them alive so that they can rebuild, and return in the future, and commit genocide on the inhabitants of the island with even more advanced war machines like stealth bombers.
It's the 'cycle of violence' story but written for retards.