Warhammer 40k

[Edward "Caesar" Sallow]

@LORD IMPERATOR

To be fair, that's like saying the Imperium would never create Primaris Marines because the way the Space Marines are trained would mean that the Space Marine chapters would never accept randos from Mars into their ranks, because they would only accept people they've picked and trained themselves. And look how that turned out.

As much as I hate Primarines, they weren't just from Mars, the black guy from SMII was specifically a Calth Massacre survivor. A good chunk of Chapters (Imperial Fists, Black Templars, Dark Angels, Blood Ravens, Space Sharks, etc.) are fleet based and recruit from multiple worlds. During the Great Crusade, the legions recruited from multiple worlds, including regions of Terra. Ultramarines also recruit from all 500 worlds of Ultramar.

I hate these half assed arguements from people who don't even know the lore. You're a newfag who doesn't understand yhe history of the arguement you're making at best, or you're someone intentionally trying to derail this thread out of spite at worst.

 

[StevieLasVegas]

As much as I hate Primarines, they weren't just from Mars, the black guy from SMII was specifically a Calth Massacre survivor. A good chunk of Chapters (Imperial Fists, Black Templars, Dark Angels, Blood Ravens, Space Sharks, etc.) are fleet based and recruit from multiple worlds. During the Great Crusade, the legions recruited from multiple worlds, including regions of Terra. Ultramarines also recruit from all 500 worlds of Ultramar.

I hate these half assed arguements from people who don't even know the lore. You're a newfag who doesn't understand yhe history of the arguement you're making at best, or you're someone intentionally trying to derail this thread out of spite at worst.

That, and some chapter were low in numbers, like the Crimson Fists for example, and were grateful for the replenishment. The primaris got them back to full strength and they've been going after orks like a vengeful God.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

As much as I hate Primarines, they weren't just from Mars, the black guy from SMII was specifically a Calth Massacre survivor. A good chunk of Chapters (Imperial Fists, Black Templars, Dark Angels, Blood Ravens, Space Sharks, etc.) are fleet based and recruit from multiple worlds. During the Great Crusade, the legions recruited from multiple worlds, including regions of Terra. Ultramarines also recruit from all 500 worlds of Ultramar.

I hate these half assed arguements from people who don't even know the lore. You're a newfag who doesn't understand yhe history of the arguement you're making at best, or you're someone intentionally trying to derail this thread out of spite at worst.

Exactly. The Legions/Chapters THEMSELVES recruited the men. They weren't just handed finished Space Marines from some rando in Mars. The Legions, and later on the Chapters, would scour space for the men they need. Then they would train these men over the years, before they were finally given the geneseeds and armor. Hence why the Primaris Marines made no fucking sense, because they were already trained on Mars and were just handed off as a finished product to the Chapters.

It seems that you didn't get my point, or understand at all what I was saying.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

The new Nurgle stuff in Underworlds looks lame, especially the guy with the bowl in his stomach. That is such a clunky design.

 

[Edward "Caesar" Sallow]

That, and some chapter were low in numbers, like the Crimson Fists for example, and were grateful for the replenishment. The primaris got them back to full strength and they've been going after orks like a vengeful God.

We can't forget some Chapters aren't fans of them. The Black Templars were against them at first until Helbrect and Guilliman had a heart to heart. Gabriel Seth, Chapter Master of the Flesh Tearers, despises Primaris even saying "They're trying to turn us into Red Ultramarines.

It seems that you didn't get my point, or understand at all what I was saying.

It's not that I didn't understand what you were saying, I understood completely. Quite simply you are just wrong and don't understand what you are talking about. Space Marines do not care where they recruit from, as long as the recruits survive their initiation rituals. Many find it easy to recruit from a homeworld because it's guarenteed stock, to the point of which many formed fleet chapters tend to adopt the traditions of their homeworld after many generations.

Even during the heresy they didn't care. Take the Second Siege of Cthonia for example: The True Sons of Horus went to reclaim their homeworld from the Imperial Fists garrison on the planet. The book even states that the majority of the Fists' garrison where native Cthonians, while the majority of the True Sons were not even of Cthonian heritage. Quite frankly you do not know what you are talking about, and it seems like you can't handle being told you're wrong.


It looks good. I'm also happy for once to have a model for Horus Heresy on a Heresy Thursday.
Here's the WarCom link.

 

[Humble Architect]

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It looks good. I'm also happy for once to have a model for Horus Heresy on a Heresy Thursday.
Here's the WarCom link.

That’s like a hybrid MKV helmet and a MKIV snoot helmet (there was one in the old BA kits) surprisingly nice looking model, especially for that typically disgusting legion.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

It's not that I didn't understand what you were saying, I understood completely. Quite simply you are just wrong and don't understand what you are talking about. Space Marines do not care where they recruit from, as long as the recruits survive their initiation rituals. Many find it easy to recruit from a homeworld because it's guarenteed stock, to the point of which many formed fleet chapters tend to adopt the traditions of their homeworld after many generations.

Even during the heresy they didn't care. Take the Second Siege of Cthonia for example: The True Sons of Horus went to reclaim their homeworld from the Imperial Fists garrison on the planet. The book even states that the majority of the Fists' garrison where native Cthonians, while the majority of the True Sons were not even of Cthonian heritage. Quite frankly you do not know what you are talking about, and it seems like you can't handle being told you're wrong.

There's a difference between a Space Marine chapter scouring worlds and recruiting people to make them into Space Marines, and the chapters getting handed FULLY-TRAINED Space Marines from Mars whose training and indoctrination they did not supervise. The SM chapters can fully trust the former since they recruited these men specifically and supervised their training, education, and indoctrination. They cannot trust the latter since they don't know who taught these guys or what they were taught.

You didn't understand my point at all.

 

[Edward "Caesar" Sallow]

There's a difference between a Space Marine chapter scouring worlds and recruiting people to make them into Space Marines, and the chapters getting handed FULLY-TRAINED Space Marines from Mars whose training and indoctrination they did not supervise. The SM chapters can fully trust the former since they recruited these men specifically and supervised their training, education, and indoctrination. They cannot trust the latter since they don't know who taught these guys or what they were taught.

You didn't understand my point at all.

You're point is stupid. Space Marines do not care. They were trained under Imperial jurisdiction, they are loyal to their chapters, they are genetically pure. You cannot be picky about where you get your men, for the Emperor's Currency is human lives. You need to move on from this point, or stop giving a shit about 40k post-7th edition. The only point to have (which you don't even know because you don't know the lore) is the fact that Primarines are loyal to the Emperor and the Ommnisiah. But even if you knew that and used that as a point, that is a tidbit from early 8th, and was never expanded on.
There's also examples of Space Marine Companies, Mechanicus Cohorts, Navy Flotillas, and Guard Regiments appearing centuries after they were supposed to be where they were needed, because that's how the warp works sometimes.
You're point is mute, no one cares that they were trained on Mars, people care that they exist in the first place, because they shit on all previous lore, and there is no reprecussions for becoming Primaris as every character has survived the surgery.

 

[Humble Architect]

You're point is stupid. Space Marines do not care. They were trained under Imperial jurisdiction, they are loyal to their chapters, they are genetically pure. You cannot be picky about where you get your men, for the Emperor's Currency is human lives. You need to move on from this point, or stop giving a shit about 40k post-7th edition. The only point to have (which you don't even know because you don't know the lore) is the fact that Primarines are loyal to the Emperor and the Ommnisiah. But even if you knew that and used that as a point, that is a tidbit from early 8th, and was never expanded on.
There's also examples of Space Marine Companies, Mechanicus Cohorts, Navy Flotillas, and Guard Regiments appearing centuries after they were supposed to be where they were needed, because that's how the warp works sometimes.
You're point is mute, no one cares that they were trained on Mars, people care that they exist in the first place, because they shit on all previous lore, and there is no reprecussions for becoming Primaris as every character has survived the surgery.

He’s a tourist no models poser who’s just sperging to be a nuisance.

He’s not a 40ktard.

 

[The tired cat]

Hm, wonder if we're gonna get any detachments for Tau where ya can run Imperial guardsmen like you can with Genestealer cults.

 

[BirdUp]

You're point is mute

*Your point is moot

 

[ShitLurker]

Hm, wonder if we're gonna get any detachments for Tau where ya can run Imperial guardsmen like you can with Genestealer cults.

I really miss when Tau were a coalition pf multiple alien races with the Tau as the main force. Having access to a unit of Gue La and a few more new alien species would be neat.

 

[daniel day]

*Your point is moot

*Your point is moo
see, its like a cows. It doesn't matter. It's moo.


>yikes

This guy cant help but make really sick ideas in the worst way possible can he? Also 18:55, that stupid titan again. This faggot cannot help but shill it.

 

[Male Idiot]

Primaris marines were supposedly sent to Mars, after being recruited by their chapter. So it is not totally foreign recruits. They just got frozen in time stasis, the Imperium has access to time stop tech.

So the black dude in SM2 is angy because in Horus Heresy the Word Bearers pogged his home of Calth.

 

[Meat Target]

Discussions like the last few pages are why I largely ignore fandoms. I don't like it when other people ruin my hobbies.

I get that GW made previous models of Marines effectively obsolete with the release of the Primaris, and made some changes to the lore to explain it, but coming from the autistic screeching of the fans, you'd think it was the worst act of lore-rape since Amazon shipped Galadriel and Sauron.

 

[rexas texas_]

Discussions like the last few pages are why I largely ignore fandoms. I don't like it when other people ruin my hobbies.

I only come here to see if someone posted their minis. I don't want to read fucking essays about troon crusades and why black marines bad and doomposting about female astartes (for the eight time this month). I suppose it's natural because tabletop is for autists, but damn holy fuck how do you not get bored discussing the same shit over and over again?

Tell me it's not just me who thinks Titus looks like absolute shit?

 

[Edward "Caesar" Sallow]

Discussions like the last few pages are why I largely ignore fandoms. I don't like it when other people ruin my hobbies.

People discussing the lore/background part of a hobby is an important part. It gst's you engaged and allows you to discuss with others what parts of the fandom you enjoy. It's when people like the retard in previous pages wants to bring some stupid bad-faith arguement.
You try to discuss the topic with them because you have some hope that they really don't understand the lore, and you want to help someone else love your hobby as much as you do.
Unfortunaetly, you run into these sorts of people that will talk in circles because they don't care about what you love, they're either an idiot who thinks they're right, or a vindictive person who hates your hobby and wants to derail the thread.
I wish people could just enjoy the hobby, or leave it alone if they don't enjoy it.

 

[Nogbertstein]

I only come here to see if someone posted their minis.

I gotchu fam, my wip contemptor (with extra contempt)

 

[Meat Target]

but damn holy fuck how do you not get bored discussing the same shit over and over again?

I wish people could just enjoy the hobby, or leave it alone if they don't enjoy it.

I get the importance of sticking to what made the franchise successful and having a reasonable amount of gatekeeping, but GW also needs to let the hobby breathe. Bringing in new fans and adding fresh lore isn't the same thing as hiring Kat Kennedy and J.J. Abrams. You don't want the hobby to become a stagnant circlejerk.

 

[Edward "Caesar" Sallow]

I get the importance of sticking to what made the franchise successful and having a reasonable amount of gatekeeping, but GW also needs to let the hobby breathe. Bringing in new fans and adding fresh lore isn't the same thing as hiring Kat Kennedy and J.J. Abrams. You don't want the hobby to become a stagnant circlejerk.

People don't gatekeep if they don't feel threatened. If you want fresh people, you got to show them what made the hobby so fun in the first place. Warhammer is great because you get to create Your Dudes, play against other peoples dudes, and read fun lore.