Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Ukraine's cause is just, and while America has plenty of valid reasons to support them in opposing Russian aggression, it's their prerogative whether to do so or not. It would be wrong from the moral standpoint to turn away from the nation in need,

Dark Brandon spitting facts about Europeans being a bunch of cucks that need America.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Russian instructions for committing self-disassemble:

KEEP HONOR TO THE END
To ensure instant death, aim for critical parts of the head:
Temple: Aiming at this side of the skull will guarantee instant loss of consciousness and a definite outcome.
Chin (lower jaw); a shot in this direction with an upward angle allows the bullet to pass through the main centers of the brain.
Center of the forehead: direct shot provides immediate neutralization of vital functions.

Important: Stay calm and confidently pull the trigger. If you don't have a weapon, use a grenade to eliminate.

Place the grenade as close to your body as possible. The ideal place is to press it to your chest in the heart area or place it under your chin.
Actions: Pull the pin, hold the grenade tightly to ensure the explosion is close to the body.

Remember: You are a warrior of great Russia. Your honor is in your loyalty to the end.

 

[Green Man]

Russian instructions for committing self-disassemble:
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Russian conscriptniks are so retarded that they need directions on how to fucking commit suicide, the paper might as well just say "HOW TO COMMIT SUICIDE: well, there's really no wrong way to do it when you have firearms and ammunition."

That much said if one is taking that route, the temple is one of the worst locations because with a fully straight trajectory odds are good that you take out the region of the brain that makes you not a houseplant and leave all of the regions in charge of life sustaining functions intact. Of course given that a Russian soldier with a minor fucking leg wound is likely to die from sepsis before anyone bothers rendering aid, you'd still end up dead I guess. Some of your comrades would probably roll up while you're wounded and go through your pockets, take your wristwatch, cigarettes and boots and leave you there to your fate.

 

[Least Concern]

Russian instructions for committing self-disassemble:

Bizarre. What's the story behind it? Is it helpful advice from the UA army or partisans? Does a Russian commander want to embezzle supplies meant for now-dead soldiers?

 

[Ghostse]

Is Portland really a strategic target these days? There's a lot less shipping than there used to be, and no military assets other than a few ANG planes at the airport.

Not really, but it something of even moderate importance that Chinese and Russian missiles might be able to hit.

Well, quite frankly, there's one big thing everybody keeps overlooking:

Trump: "Hey, Ukraine, launch investigations into Biden's son."
Ukraine: "No"

This is already investigated and debunked. Trump threatened he might withhold/reduce military aid but did not do so - its sus, but if that is illegal then every president is guilty. Anyway, there's no need to do any investigating now - since Hunter has been pardoned of all crimes related to his $150,000 a year job he held with his only qualifications being "Son of the Vice President". Clearly a completely pointless pardon since Hunter obviously never did any crimes in Ukraine. Trump must have really been off base looking at illegal actions for Hunter's dad to give him a full pardon for all crimes committed during a period time, even undiscovered and uncharged ones.

I have literally no idea where anybody was getting that hopium.

TDS suffers may have believed my equally fanciful responses to their fanfics. Ability to tell fiction from reality is not their strong suite.

It’s a hypothetical. If the US withdraws all aid after Trump offers a “take it or leave it” shit sandwich of a peace deal, would you consider that as being an action taken to benefit Russia?

Well there is also the hypothetical that Trump will make Putin put on a sailor suit and do the "Lollypop Guild" dance in front of the UN under threat of being nuked, if we're talking about things that pure fancy speculation with no basis in reality.

What would Trump do if both sides call his plan retarded?
His whole deal was carrot and stick, but Putin doesn't want your carrot, and wether it does or not, he acts like the stick doesn't hurt. Putin, nor the greater Russian metropolitan, does not care how many boys come home in boxes (or not at all) so the threat of continuing aid isn't a threat.

Honestly who the fuck knows, I think its more likely both sides come back with counter offers. I doubt anything that doesn't involve WWIII-levels of response if Russia continues to fuck around in Ukraine will be realistically any more effective than the fake,gay Minsk agreement.

Personally, I think Trump will just wash his hands of the matter, lift sanctions and try to ignore Europe and Russia for his term.
This will backfire, as most things Trump does and end up hurting us substantially in the long run.

I think that's what happens if Ukraine shows itself to be a boondoggle with no realistic end stage (to Trump's satisfaction). I doubt that's the day zero take, especially with Z-man kissing the ring.

All of this assumes that Trump isn’t bound to do the bidding of Putin either because he’s completely compromised (as in, owes at least his first election to him, and/or there are piss tapes), or just wants to let him win because he’s his kind of guy.

You can say “oh but he defied Putin in this or that move in the past” - you don’t think stuff like that can be orchestrated and agreed in order to let him look tough, with a longer term objective in sight?

Trump and Russia have so many lines of communication it's not funny. As does Musk. They’re just not on our team, this has been apparent for years.

Times Russia has invaded Ukraine was Trump was President: 0
Times Russia has invaded Ukraine while Biden was elected to the executive branch: 2

The numbers say its not Trump that is compromised and that you are a low-IQ, low-test Eurocuck who who kept buying Russian energy, laughed at the messenger when told this was a bad idea, and having funneled trillions to the war machine now ravaging Ukraine now that once again demand someone else bail you out from the mess you created. You should stop your blue-cum guzzling retard posting and maybe consider doing a portrait of the Prophet Muhammed in public instead.

 

[-Jack-]

That is a good thing.
The enemy isnt in Moscow it's in Washington and Brussels.
Hope Jan 20th the Ukraine loses all support and weapons and it goes back to what's is always has been. Russian.



The hohols should be so lucky. Given that they are losing on all fronts.


That's assuming zelensky ever allows an election again. Ukraine hasn't had a legitimate president since the last one was illegally removed in a US backed could in 2014.


It's definitely real and not more made up nafo stupidity.

I think you belong in the other thread.

 

[High-Fructose Corn Syrup]

I think you belong in the other thread.

No, I belong here. Clearly many of you are delusional.

 

[-Jack-]

No, I belong here. Clearly many of you are delusional.

So you’re telling me a country that has been harassing Ukraine for centuries (even if it wasn’t a legitimate, recognised country-but it’s ethnic people) and invaded them illegally twice is not the enemy? But it’s Washington and Brussels?

You just sound like every other MAGA Eurosceptic.

 

[Snekposter]

No, I belong here. Clearly many of you are delusional.

Enjoy the infirmary, stalker child.

 

[-Jack-]

There is no Ukrainian ethnicity, they are Russian as they always have been. Up until the invasion everyone spoke Russian in the major cities, "Ukrainian" was nothing but a peasant language. The invasion was in response to the illegal coup of 2014. One perpetuated by groups in Washington and Brussels as has been the case countless times. Same thing is happening in Georgia. Putin is justified and it's why he's winning.

The maga euro skeptics sound right.

That’s really interesting, but I really think you belong in the other thread nigger, thanks for popping by though.

 

[Vince McMahon]

"Ukrainian" was nothing but a peasant language.

Back in my day, the bait used to be believable.
Also, reported as per rules re: partitioning of the discussion.

 

[Snekposter]

Back in my day, the bait used to be believable.

To quote a certain orange man: They aren't sending us their best, folks.

 

[National Defense Advocate]

SAR DO NOT REDEEMING THE UKRAIN SAR

Look at this Jeet, he just hates white people.

 

[MG-34]

There is no Ukrainian ethnicity, they are Russian as they always have been. Up until the invasion everyone spoke Russian in the major cities.

That's fucking wrong you dumb nigger. Even during the USSR, Ukrainians were considered a different group of people than Russians. Comparable to Welsh and Irish. A Russian wouldn't consider a Ukrainian ethnically Russian any more than a Tuvan or Chechen isn't a Russian.

 

[Green Man]

The Kellogg plan is too good for the hohols, they should be grateful to even have a 1/4 of that landlocked shithole when this is all over.

Probably a jeet or a Paki that just learned the word "hohol" and uses it constantly so they sound like "one of the boys" in their Zigger Telegram circles, where they get their entire world view and all of their news.



Get in the shower, Manpreet.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Interesting video by William Spaniel on how (un)realistic it would be for Ukraine to acquire either NATO membership or le nuke, recommending instead conventional weaponry and the prospect that Russia wouldn't want to restart the war all over again:
"How Ukraine Will Guarantee a Post-War Settlement with Russia"

I'll watch the vid, but without NATO membership (nearly impossible now tho), Ukraine relies on the shifting moods of international partners and Putin's reliably worthless word. Nuclear weapons are themselves a very notable expense, and new nuke states are generally shit tier places, with the use guaranteeing pariah status, but perhaps it might be the only assurance available. Hopefully, Trump recognises that allowing Ukraine to properly wage war (lots of relevant Euro systems have US parts) is the best protection against Moscow's proxy (which includes funding loathsome ittle bald influencers) and actual war.

 

[-Jack-]

I imagine an alternative timeline where the only nukes ever used & created were those in Japan. How different it would be today, I would imagine a lot more wars because there is no threat of nuclear war or instant destruction. But then, would the cold war ever have been triggered?

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

I imagine an alternative timeline where the only nukes ever used & created were those in Japan. How different it would be today, I would imagine a lot more wars because there is no threat of nuclear war or instant destruction. But then, would the cold war ever have been triggered?

That alternate timeline is doable right as WWII historically ended but it will involve a lot of dead communists and trying the patience of the American public.

To do it will require Truman to continue going east in the European theater and west in the Pacific theater to snuff out Stalin and his communist bros in the Soviet Union. Hunting down Mao and his communist bros in China. Then there's the need to shitcan England and France atomic programs before they become nuclear powers.

 

[World in Scarlet]

Kellogg responded to comments made by a Russian oligarch about potential American peace terms:​

Off to a good start.

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[NKVD qt]

Kellog responded to comments made by a Russian oligarch about potential American peace terms:​

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Off to a good start.

This is going to be an incredibly funny clusterfuck isn't it. Guess we will just have to wait and see.