Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Damocles_Sword]

Wonder what a semi auto BAR goes for.

5 or 6k, one guy is pretty much boutique manufacturing them himself. An upside to this is that he's making reliable 30 round mags for them.

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

Wonder what a semi auto BAR goes for.

That thought hurts me because it wouldn't be a BAR if it's not Automatic

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

5 or 6k, one guy is pretty much boutique manufacturing them himself. An upside to this is that he's making reliable 30 round mags for them.

That thought hurts me because it wouldn't be a BAR if it's not Automatic

I mean, Browning sells the MK3 BAR but it looks a lot like a beefy hunting rifle.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Does anyone know a nice <1” OD flashlight? Preferably with a remote.

The ML40 by Votatu is .86"x.9" while being roughly 5" long, there's also the ML40s that has a pressure switch but they're both for M-LOK. The picatinny variant is larger.
I have one on mine because of how slim it is but I haven't bumped it around much at all. It uses a lithium battery with a magnetized charger, so it's easy to charge.

I'll repeat myself in stating all the flashlight geeks I know recommend researching how to make your own flashlight since premade ones are typically crap or incendiary devices, ie olight/streamlight.

Wonder what a semi auto BAR goes for.

$7.6k for the OG in semi auto, 6.4k for the modernized weirdo shit.

Rifle:
https://www.kearms.com/kp-15-CDR.aspx

Absolutely heretical that you would promote Russell and Karl's brand here.

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

$7.6k for the OG in semi auto, 6.4k for the modernized weirdo shit.

Sounds like I could get 5-7 other very nice guns for that price, but I can understand why they're wanted. Wish there was more of a market for it or a friendlier political landscape for people to make functional replicas of older guns outside of just 1911s.

Edit: While we're on 1911s what does this thread think of Rock Island?

 

[Red Saltire]

The ML40 by Votatu is .86"x.9" while being roughly 5" long, there's also the ML40s that has a pressure switch but they're both for M-LOK. The picatinny variant is larger.
I have one on mine because of how slim it is but I haven't bumped it around much at all. It uses a lithium battery with a magnetized charger, so it's easy to charge.

I'll repeat myself in stating all the flashlight geeks I know recommend researching how to make your own flashlight since premade ones are typically crap or incendiary devices, ie olight/streamlight.


$7.6k for the OG in semi auto, 6.4k for the modernized weirdo shit.
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Absolutely heretical that you would promote Russell and Karl's brand here.

well that ml40 is uh
very ugly

thank you for the suggestion but id rather fumble around in the dark than be seen with that on my rifle.

also what the hell do you mean "make your own flashlight"?

 

[Nate Higgers]

Optics are also good for, you know, seeing what youre shooting at.

I know he’s somewhat of a “troll”/controversial figure but that skinny jean wearing Lucas Botkin (T-Rex Arms Guy) was xeeting the other day that he was supposedly “training his local swat team” or something

And he said that irons are dumb/gay and that the guys with red dots were just far more accurate and that they seemed to be more “intuitive” with their firearms. I wouldn’t know because I’m profoundly retarded and never sat down to figure out how to properly zero the red dot I have for my AR or the swampfox I have for my 43x…so I’ve just been working with irons for the last several years.

 

[Shopping Cart Nationalist]

I've been told mil-spec is aiming for "cheapest but hopefully reliable" for most stuff.

Never forget. Mil-Spec simply means "The people who did the bare minimum requirement, at the absolute lowest price."

'Mil-spec' is just a military specification for ________. Trials, bidding and contract requirements are a separate matter, but can involve a mil-spec. The whole process is supposed to ensure a level bidding field while ensuring that the gov't gets what it asked/pays for. People slam mi-spec as only 'good-e-nuf,' when there are plenty of civilian products that are liquid shit. Mil-spec can certainly be exceeded but it's not like most are even bothering to try. Military procurement, just like all government procurement, is supposed to be and anti-graft, tax payer value type process, which works out in theory, but just not always in practice.

but I imagine a lot of the mil-spec fascination is stuff like "wow navy seals use the P226 I have to get one too".

^This. Monkey see, monkey do.

I don't see how grain weight can make that much of a difference in terms of damage and whatnot. In fact, a 77 would be better as you've got less unburnt powder blasting the shit out of your main baffle.

I would think that the powder charge and type (powder burn rate, and powder energy/heat potential) would make the most difference to the baffles.

Does anyone know a nice <1” OD flashlight? Preferably with a remote.

If you aren't a poorfag, the Arisaka E1, and E2s that fit the smaller body, not the DF size body. Or you can get an E-series head from Malkoff (thy make them for Arisaka) in the satin black finish and the lower intensity emitters. Slap it on the scout type body of your choice.

suggestions for a first-time-buyer's handgun, rifle, and shotgun.

Handgun: some type of 9mm polymer striker fired gun in 4-4.5" barrel; Glock 17, 19, 47, (Gen3 is you can't get Gen5, and MOS, or non-MOS and get slide milled later). Walther PDP, CZ-P-10, S&W M&P 2.0. <Feel free to get more than one of these in whatever brand/flavor you choose.
Rifle: Quality AR-15 with chrome lined barrel (Hammer forged would be an upgrade) 14.5" - 16" mid gas, or longer gas system in the 16". I just roll my own so I know what quality every part and assembly that goes into it.
Shotgun: Less important. Decent pump like a police Rem 870, Mossberg 590, or get spendy and get an auto Beretta A400, or 1301 when thy come available again.

My favorite handgun has always been the 1911. They're beautiful guns.

A Les Baer was one of the nicest guns that I've handled and shot, but that is an expensive 1911. A cheap 1911 will function, but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone for a variety of reasons. Unless you spend a bunch of money a 1911 is going to be constant maintenance, and maybe still even if you do.

That thought hurts me because it wouldn't be a BAR if it's not Automatic

What if it's a Colt Monitor?

I mean, Browning sells the MK3 BAR but it looks a lot like a beefy hunting rifle.

I've messed with and earlier version, and they aren't even beefy. Browning has/had several hunting lines, BAR (Browning Auto Rifle), BPR (" " Pump Rifle), and BLR (" " Lever Rifle).

Sounds like I could get 5-7 other very nice guns for that price, but I can understand why they're wanted.

A long time ago, I was looking into a glass display case in a gun store, at a snub nose revolver with a long and large cylinder.
Me: What's that?
Gun store salesman: Oh, it's a 45-70 snub nose.
Me: Lol, why do they even make that?
Gun store salesman: Because it's not against the law to have more money than brains.
A young me learned a lot about how many people go through life right there.

I know he’s somewhat of a “troll”/controversial figure but that skinny jean wearing Lucas Botkin (T-Rex Arms Guy) was xeeting the other day that he was supposedly “training his local swat team” or something

And he said that irons are dumb/gay and that the guys with red dots were just far more accurate and that they seemed to be more “intuitive” with their firearms. I wouldn’t know because I’m profoundly retarded and never sat down to figure out how to properly zero the red dot

1. Lucas Botkin is a high order faggot that faked it 'til he made it via social media. Shitty holster salesman in-chief.
2. A red dot on a carbine/rifle is pretty much bare minimum in the current year. There is $200 and under airsoft marketed stuff that is probably just fine, so there is no reason to not have one.
3. Irons as a back-up to a co-witness, or lower 1/3 red dot is fine IF you think you want it, can pay for them, and take the time to zero them as well.
4. Zeroing is pretty easy: turn the little knobby things in the direction that you nee/want the bullet impact to move
5. Next step is to just not stare AT the dot, focus on the TARGET.

 

[Club Sandwich]

This video has convinced me I need to legally acquire hand grenades for home defense. How do I go about legally doing this? Do I just need an approved explosive ordinance magazine, an explosives license, and some paperwork?

find a seller of destructive devices that has one or more hand grenades for sale. complete the form 1 and other NFA transfer paperwork and wait for approval after submitting payment. you only need an ordinance magazine if you plan on keeping more than one, or the one you get approved of is a self-contained unit with detonator. if the detonator is stored separately, no magazine is needed. you do not need a FEL unless you are in the business of manufacturing, dealing with, importing/exporting explosives.

hint: no one will sell an individual a hand grenade. the ones i deal with belong to my business or are some agency or other business under contract, not mine personally, and the paperwork and magazine is a pain to maintain and acquire and keep in regulated (safe) condition, to say nothing of procedures for handling, disposal, transport, et c.

you can use a form 4 to apply to manufacture something like a molotov or pipe bomb though and after the normal approvals process, use it as you see fit for whatever legal purpose.

 

[The Dude]

Got my holster and mag carrier for my Staccato P. Happy with the holster, but the mag carrier doesn't seem to hold the mags securely and they have slipped out a couple times. I've even had it sent back to the maker, and while it is much better than it originally was, I'm still not happy with it. I'm probably going to send it back for a refund. I've contacted the guy who made the Monster Hunter International rig I have for my Dan Wesson Specialist to see if he can make me a mag carrier color matched to the holster, since it's an Ox Blood Red color. Waiting to hear back from him. Haven't had a single issue with the carrier he made me. I'm hoping to order a shoulder rig from Nightingale Leather in the new year like I have for my Dan Wesson. It's my absolute favorite rig, though I can really only wear it when the weather is cooler. Though I do wear it around the house year round.

As far as favorite mil-surp weapons go, I really love the FN SAFN/FN-49 and would really love one in either 8mm Mauser or .30-06. I'm also a big fan of the M1903 and Kar-98. But damn, are old military rifles getting pricy these days.

Here's a pic of the new holster and mag carrier.

 

[SuperConglomerateWhale]

In the process of getting my ID in my gay state. We have a 10 round mag limit.

I'm applying for my general ID as well as a handgun license.

I'm sure it's been done to death, but I'd love some suggestions for a first-time-buyer's handgun, rifle, and shotgun.

I'm no stranger to the safe operation and maintenance of firearms, this will be my first time owning one, however.

PDP compact. Better out of the box trigger than Glock. All slides ome precut for optics.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Edit: While we're on 1911s what does this thread think of Rock Island?

If you're broke, it's better than no 1911. They at least offer it in the old GI setup, so even if fit and finish isn't the best, it still has that WW2 asthetic.

Just toss the mag that comes with it, that is garbage and like half the issue of cheap 1911's. Toss in some Wilson combat mags and you should be gtg for the most part.

Edit: if you're in a 10 round state, have you thought about revolvers? Very user friendly, has powerful flavors like 357 magnum that cal also load 38 special, and used models are fairly cheap.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Edit: While we're on 1911s what does this thread think of Rock Island?

Not bad. They tend to have enough clearance between parts which indicates it will actually work out of the box. You can get one with standard GI sights or even three dot. If you go a bit more expensive they have high-cap 9x19 and 10mm versions.

very ugly

You either get a fuckhuge tube or small and ugly. A good light built to specification is hard to find, which is why

also what the hell do you mean "make your own flashlight"?

...people build their own flashlights. They're simple to make and the components are available. The difficult part is the casing, but 3D printing helps with that.
Or you could just buy olight/streamlight and set your handguard on fire.

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

If you're broke, it's better than no 1911. They at least offer it in the old GI setup, so even if fit and finish isn't the best, it still has that WW2 asthetic.
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Just toss the mag that comes with it, that is garbage and like half the issue of cheap 1911's. Toss in some Wilson combat mags and you should be gtg for the most part.

Edit: if you're in a 10 round state, have you thought about revolvers? Very user friendly, has powerful flavors like 357 magnum that cal also load 38 special, and used models are fairly cheap.

I've definitely considered revolvers. That being said 10+1 is a hell of a lot more than 5/6. My dumb ass only got one pistol permit. Still, they're only 25 bucks, so I'm not overly concerned.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I've definitely considered revolvers. That being said 10+1 is a hell of a lot more than 5/6. My dumb ass only got one pistol permit. Still, they're only 25 bucks, so I'm not overly concerned.

Fair enough. If you get a second permit though, it's something to consider. A J frame tucks away quite nicely and has that noir feel if you're into that

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

A long time ago, I was looking into a glass display case in a gun store, at a snub nose revolver with a long and large cylinder.
Me: What's that?
Gun store salesman: Oh, it's a 45-70 snub nose.
Me: Lol, why do they even make that?
Gun store salesman: Because it's not against the law to have more money than brains.
A young me learned a lot about how many people go through life right there.

They called it the Thunder Snub XD

 

[likeacrackado]

I know he’s somewhat of a “troll”/controversial figure but that skinny jean wearing Lucas Botkin (T-Rex Arms Guy) was xeeting the other day that he was supposedly “training his local swat team” or something

And he said that irons are dumb/gay and that the guys with red dots were just far more accurate and that they seemed to be more “intuitive” with their firearms. I wouldn’t know because I’m profoundly retarded and never sat down to figure out how to properly zero the red dot I have for my AR or the swampfox I have for my 43x…so I’ve just been working with irons for the last several years.

I can't speak to what Lucas is or is not doing with his local swat, but optical devices(especially red dots) are more intuitive for most people. New shooters pick up "put the dot on the target and fire" quicker than "line up the front post between the rear posts, center them on the target and fire". Teaching people to target focus is also easier with dots.

For cops, the guys with dots probably shoot more than those who don't bother to swap out stock glock irons.

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

Fair enough. If you get a second permit though, it's something to consider. A J frame tucks away quite nicely and has that noir feel if you're into that

I do dig the noir vibe. What do you recommend as far as a cartridge for a revolver? 38S?

 

[WelperHelper99]

I do dig the noir vibe. What do you recommend as far as a cartridge for a revolver? 38S?

Depends on the revolver size. A snubbie I would keep at a 38. Something mid size go for 357, you can still use 38 with it. Anything bigger you're buying for a purpose most likely, like a 44 magnum for bear protection.

 

[EggImpregnator]

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