Containment Random Chris Updates

[Steve Seagull]

I've been thinking about the recent changes in Chris' writing style (and his overall character). No new info just speculations.

For decades, his style remained mostly consistent, even for some time after he got out of jail, if I recall correctly. But lately, his posts feel different—less erratic, more coherent—almost as if a saner person were writing them instead. Here’s a random Bsky example.

The signature hallmarks of Chris' writing are missing. There's less over-the-top enthusiasm for whatever happens to be occupying his mind. He doesn’t always sign off as whichever deity he's being at the time. Previously, everything he said was tied to for eg My Little Pony, his fictional polycule, someone who offended him, or his maladaptive daydreams. Now, there's noticeably less of the random capitalization, made-up words, and trademark eccentricities we’ve come to expect. He's more reflecting on his life, making boundaries, criticizing when others invade his privacy etc... Like he now has more agency over his mind than before?

Others have speculated on this too. Some think Flutter or Caden might be helping him. Others suggest he might even be using ChatGPT.

But if that’s true, it would mean Chris has developed enough self-awareness to recognize that his writing needs to change and is actually making an effort. That’s a pretty big shift for him. Or maybe that happened organically if his mental state is better?

Here are my thoughts on each of those theories:

1. If the helper is Caden: This shift could be for Chris' personal benefit, not Caden’s. A less eccentric Chris might generate fewer sales, though I’m just speculating.
   
   
2. If the helper is Flutter: This feels plausible, especially since we know she’s helped him with streaming before. The bigger question is whether Chris himself wanted to return to streaming, or if Caden pushed him into it to boost sales. If it’s the latter, Flutter might be helping both Chris and Caden by extension. (speculation made by a cocktail of other speculations: If a) she really likes Chris b) he doesn't want to stream c) she is rich so money is not a problem d) she doesn't want to be doxed, it would be in her best interest that Chris stays off the Internet. Or maybe it's his Infamy what gets her hot and bothered so she will encourage him to be online now and then so she keeps finding him... Attractive or what those persons do...).
   
   
3. If the helper is AI: he got the advice to start using ChatGPT or similar and actually follows through.
   
   1-.3. Helpers rewriting his messages: If this is true, it would require significant time, effort, and patience—not just from whoever’s helping him but from Chris too. That’s a lot to coordinate for him and confirms he's less impulsive.
   
   
4. Proper treatment: What if Chris has finally started receiving real psychiatric or psychological care? Maybe they’ve found a medication or therapy regimen that works, and it’s helping him manage his eccentricities. If that’s the case, it’s indication of how much better his life could’ve been if Bob and Barb had sought help for him earlier. He might have had a shot at a more normal life.

Just to clarify, I'm not comparing Chris now to Chris in his golden age when most of his outbursts where organized by trolls, I know he's been boring for a long time.

 

[Éamonn Ceannt]

Proper treatment: What if Chris has finally started receiving real psychiatric or psychological care? Maybe they’ve found a medication or therapy regimen that works, and it’s helping him manage his eccentricities. If that’s the case, it’s indication of how much better his life could’ve been if Bob and Barb had sought help for him earlier. He might have had a shot at a more normal life.

The only problem with this is that this likely would’ve happened in prison and I’d expect it to fall apart once he got out. Also, he still believes in that goddess bullcrap and still thinks he’s a woman. Plus even when he was in the mental hospital he still believed this crap. I don’t think it’s this, I think it’s either Caden or Flutter.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

Maybe they’ve found a medication or therapy regimen that works, and it’s helping him manage his eccentricities.

drugs don't make you saner, smarter or more well articulated and whichever pharmaceutical propaganda convinced everyone that a guy "getting the help he needs" aka popping pills and telling an equally medicated woman with a clipboard about his feefers and his relationship with his dad will just make him wake up one day and start writing like shakesphere has done an excellent job lying to people.
drugs only make a person more manageable, if chris was losing his shit punching walls and writing like an idiot, a pill won't make him start writing in a way that's more well spoken, it'll just make it so he doesn't have enough energy to punch holes in walls while still writing like an idiot.

 

[Éamonn Ceannt]

drugs only make a person more manageable, if chris was losing his shit punching walls and writing like an idiot, a pill won't make him start writing in a way that's more well spoken, it'll just make it so he doesn't have enough energy to punch holes in walls while still writing like an idiot.

I generally get the thrust but for argument’s sake couldn’t the pills calm him down which allows him to think and write clearer? Once again I don’t really think he’s medicated but that thought just occurred to me.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

I generally get the thrust but for argument’s sake couldn’t the pills calm him down which allows him to think and write clearer? Once again I don’t really think he’s medicated but that thought just occurred to me.

there's a difference between "getting '''the help he needed'''''' which is usually a cheeky term for "INTO THE FUCKING LOONY BIN, CRAZY!"
and popping a bit of xanax to feel a little sleepier so you simply don't have the energy to chimp out

neither of those is real treatment, the latter is just being gently drugged up, and the former is being SO drugged up that you don't frighten normal people
fact of the matter is, we don't have pills that can just 'fix' most psychological conditions, that's a lovely fantasy but they never existed, we only have stuff that, at best, can lighten the symptoms by making you too tired/emotionless/high to experience them

that aside, if chris IS on sleepy pills, that still won't make him write more eloquently
he's just writing that way because he's reading more hoohoo stuff recently that has that style of writing
you could command him and say he's more well read, if it weren't for the fact that i don't feel like he's really comprehending WHAT he's reading, or reading anything truly stimulating or intelligent, and is purely copying the way they talk, it comes down as calmer and more polite but i don't think chris is behind the keyboard sipping a glass of whiskey leaning back in his chair and writing out well thought out intellectual pieces, i think he just found a fancier way of REEEEEEEEEEEEEEing online

 

[Steve Seagull]

The only problem with this is that this likely would’ve happened in prison and I’d expect it to fall apart once he got out. Also, he still believes in that goddess bullcrap and still thinks he’s a woman. Plus even when he was in the mental hospital he still believed this crap. I don’t think it’s this, I think it’s either Caden or Flutter.

I should have clarified, I believe he got psychiatric care in prison, but I don't think it was as thorough as he needed, mostly to have him obedient and more manageable. My speculation on proper psychiatric care would be when he got out.

drugs don't make you saner, smarter or more well articulated and whichever pharmaceutical propaganda convinced everyone that a guy "getting the help he needs" aka popping pills and telling an equally medicated woman with a clipboard about his feefers and his relationship with his dad will just make him wake up one day and start writing like shakesphere has done an excellent job lying to people.
drugs only make a person more manageable, if chris was losing his shit punching walls and writing like an idiot, a pill won't make him start writing in a way that's more well spoken, it'll just make it so he doesn't have enough energy to punch holes in walls while still writing like an idiot.

Drugs are not magic pills, but antipsychotics can help people with delusions and make them more lucid. I did not mean to imply it would change his whole character and rid him of all his problems.

 

[Éamonn Ceannt]

I should have clarified, I believe he got psychiatric care in prison, but I don't think it was as thorough as he needed, mostly to have him obedient and more manageable. My speculation on proper psychiatric care would be when he got out.

That’s the thing though, if he was actually getting help he wouldn’t be like this at all. Not to mention the fact that any sane shrink would tell him to stay the fuck off the Internet and probably be very bullish about a long distance relationship with Flutter. I just don’t think he’s getting help.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

but antipsychotics can help people with delusions and make them more lucid

chris does not have actual tangible audiovisual hallucinations

he has "new schizophrenia" aka "idk h-he doesn't fit any of the symptoms but he just kinda makes me feel unsafe, becky, i just get a bad vibe from him ok? take him away and give him a drug! any drug! just get him out of my office i-i-i need my box wine!"

 

[Steve Seagull]

there's a difference between "getting '''the help he needed'''''' which is usually a cheeky term for "INTO THE FUCKING LOONY BIN, CRAZY!"
and popping a bit of xanax to feel a little sleepier so you simply don't have the energy to chimp out

might be a difference in where we live but where I do there is A LOT of options in between. But, as Chris lives in the US and I don't, I can't comment on the actual realities of psychiatric care and the health system.

chris does not have actual tangible audiovisual hallucinations

we agree, I do not believe he does. but at least I believe he does have a severe case of maladaptive daydreaming.... and a bunch of other diagnoses.

I generally get the thrust but for argument’s sake couldn’t the pills calm him down which allows him to think and write clearer? Once again I don’t really think he’s medicated but that thought just occurred to me.

did you see those zombie streams after he got out of jail? to me that was an indication he was on something, and also I believe it was heavily speculated here.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

might be a difference in where we live but where I do there is A LOT of options in between. But, as Chris lives in the US and I don't, I can't comment on the actual realities of psychiatric care and the health system.


we agree, I do not believe he does. but at least I believe he does have a severe case of maladaptive daydreaming.... and a bunch of other diagnoses.


did you see those zombie streams after he got out of jail? to me that was an indication he was on something, and also I believe it was heavily speculated here.

stop eating so much pharma dick and trying to diagnose everyone with cute little conditions that can be medicated

chris doesn't have "this disorder" or "that disorder", he has autism, he's an idiot and he's an ape, end of

 

[Steve Seagull]

stop eating so much pharma dick and trying to diagnose everyone with cute little conditions that can be medicated

chris doesn't have "this disorder" or "that disorder", he has autism, he's an idiot and he's an ape, end of

I really don't care about debating with you about pharma, and I obviously don't care about it as aggressively as you do. Why don't you just ignore me it would be better for everyone.

The point of my post was that I was curios to see other's opinions on if they saw a change in him, his posts and what you all think could be the reason so I collected theories that floated around to spark conversation.

This is your take on it:

he's just writing that way because he's reading more hoohoo stuff recently that has that style of writing
you could command him and say he's more well read, if it weren't for the fact that i don't feel like he's really comprehending WHAT he's reading, or reading anything truly stimulating or intelligent, and is purely copying the way they talk, it comes down as calmer and more polite

chris doesn't have "this disorder" or "that disorder", he has autism

oh boy you'll get surprised when you learn that autism IS a disorder!

 

[Ammyterasu]

Nothing new, just Chris reading the CWCki again.
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This page to be exact. Contains the wording Chris quoted.
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Lol the cwcki says "The video was later set to Private for an unknown reason" and Chris thinks it says "updated" then proceeds to act like a smug retard about it. Honor roll.

Also he ranted about how he can see other people's auras and his take on Australia's project of banning minors from using social media sites, which I'm just going to link because I feel bad wasting the forum's bandwidth on those.

But this image deserves it

I remember when around 2011 Chris's naked from waist-up photo won 2nd place on manboobs.com, with commentary that was something along "bonus points for the clown medallion" lol.

 

[King Kiwi]

Lol the cwcki says "The video was later set to Private for an unknown reason" and Chris thinks it says "updated" then proceeds to act like a smug retard about it. Honor roll.

Also he ranted about how he can see other people's auras and his take on Australia's project of banning minors from using social media sites, which I'm just going to link because I feel bad wasting the forum's bandwidth on those.

But this image deserves it
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Oh yeah, Chris is free roaming.

It looks like whoever has control over Chris is starting to lose their grip a little bit.

 

[Éamonn Ceannt]

Oh yeah, Chris is free roaming.

It looks like whoever has control over Chris is starting to lose their grip a little bit.

Hmm, whart should we look for in order to corrobarrate this theory?

Jesus I sound lik e a fucking nerd.

 

[Pink-Over-Nail]

Lol the cwcki says "The video was later set to Private for an unknown reason" and Chris thinks it says "updated" then proceeds to act like a smug retard about it. Honor roll.

Also he ranted about how he can see other people's auras and his take on Australia's project of banning minors from using social media sites, which I'm just going to link because I feel bad wasting the forum's bandwidth on those.

But this image deserves it
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If I'm not mistaken, cwcki didn't include this appearance in the “Chris in the media” section.

 

[SigueSigueSpergnik]

One thing re: the theory that Flutter is helping Chris to write posts: we don't know her level of proficency with the English language.

If she is Finnish, she likely learned English as a second language. While there are certainly ESL speakers out there who have a better grasp of the language than a lot of native speakers, we just don't know if she's capable or not of the types of editing that would be needed.

Having said that, it's not impossible. Most likely is that there's a number of factors at play, any or all of which can be attributed - to some extent - to the changes that have been seen. Again, though, it's all speculative.

stop eating so much pharma dick

Calm down, Matlock.

It looks like whoever has control over Chris is starting to lose their grip a little bit.

Agreed. How that will play out is another question (much like how public it'll be when it does happen), but it does seem as though he's moving into somewhat less-managed territory.

 

[purpleflurp]

and still thinks he’s a woman.

Psychiatric care probably wouldn't get rid of this tbh, given the current state of the field

If she is Finnish, she likely learned English as a second language. While there are certainly ESL speakers out there who have a better grasp of the language than a lot of native speakers, we just don't know if she's capable or not of the types of editing that would be needed.

I'm not too sure about this. Especially given how much of the online space is dominated by English-speaking communities, a lot of younger millennials and zoomers in European countries tend to have a stronger grasp of the language due to how much time they spend online. Like they'll still have accents in some case, but generally their understanding of the language tends to be at the same level as most Americans.

 

[SigueSigueSpergnik]

I'm not too sure about this. Especially given how much of the online space is dominated by English-speaking communities, a lot of younger millennials and zoomers in European countries tend to have a stronger grasp of the language due to how much time they spend online. Like they'll still have accents in some case, but generally their understanding of the language tends to be at the same level as most Americans.

Well... Sort of. I don't really disagree with the point that you're making, but it's very much person-by-person. Not everyone hangs out in English-language-centric communities, though it's certainly true that avoiding them altogether is not realistic. Most language education is still carried out in relatively traditional school curricula, though there will definitely be an Internet influence.

I'd also want to be careful about using terms like 'in Europe' and 'European countries'. There's some commonality between countries, sure, but they can't be viewed as all having the same surface when it comes to things like these. Every one of them is different, and I say this as a European living in the US. Not a powerlevel, just where my perspective is coming from.

 

[Morshu's Paradise]

What interest would Caden have in cleaning up Chris's writing style? I can see why Flutter might do it (make her bf look slightly less retarded to the public) but Chris's unique voice has always been one of his defining traits. Watering it down is just limiting another aspect of Chris's marketability that ties him to the Classic Era.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Classic Era

The so-called "Classic Era" is now really short-lived.

The "Classic Chris" days may seem like they lasted awhile (or at least they did to me), but they only lasted from around the mid '00s to 2010-ish. So only around 5 years.

These current "sagas" with "Honor Roll" as a "tomgirl" have been going for around 15 years now -- and that is roughly 3 times longer than that "Classic Chris" era lasted.