It'll be on BBC Iplayer for sure, I dunno how it is accessing it from abroad. I dunno if you just need a VPN and to sign in, I don't think they do anything to confirm your licence or that it would have any effect on a non UK citizen if they did.
Oliver has this thing where he develops friendships online and then fantasizes about moving to wherever that friend lives. Usually there will be some pretence of networking and job opportunities, but sex also appears to be a motive. He wanted to move to New York, which is where Nebula is based and is 3-4hrs from Contra. Then it was the Pacific Northwest to hook up with his blonde tranny vocal coach. Now he’s fixating on California because that’s where Mick Ignis and his friends are.
I just like it when something Oliver thinks will give him status gets thrown back into his face. Sort of like James Corden, and his accent. “Americans will be so impressed with my accent.” “OI LADS, IT’S TOIME FOR A ROIGHT CHUBIN’”. Or, like, how he thought “coming out” would be this grand revelation - and most people called it and no one cared.
Yeah, like how hideous monsters end up inspiring multiple artists in Lovecraft’s universe. See Pickman’s Model. Or how Picasso painted Guernica. Or when Adrien Veidt went all squid-happy in Watchmen, and sensitive people worldwide started having nightmares. Seeing Chube makes everyone wanna be a comedian, like how The Velvet Underground & Nico launched a thousand bands, except those people liked the Velvet Underground.
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The term “autogynephilic revelry” comes to mind. This is a very classic AGP vs HSTS divide. The AGP, in the throes of his addiction, prattles on about his happiness. The HSTS, a closeted and self-loathing gay man, allows himself to be talked over.
It’s about disassociation, or what he’s not feeling when he’s chubin’. I explained this before, here, in relation to Isaac Uncooked, another tranny lolcow. Olly wants to be a super cool revolutionary freedom fighter, but he’s a chubby Bri’ish fancy-lad with a silver spoon up his ass. He declared (via his SNL825 alt on Xitter) that upon transitioning he magically lost his male privilege:
[Oliver] is saying [he] experiences certain similar points of discrimination and judgement NOW. Because [he] has left behind the male privilege [he] did have before and is living in society as. a. [professional cosplayer of] women. And a woman [cosplayer] who gets both the sexism and transphobic crap like this.
Changed are my own. Under the spoiler labelled, “comparing trans women to black women isn't racist somehow”. Posted on February 11th, 2021 (?) in response to @ManManlyMan1 @KnotsMedusas and 3 others.
That’s pretty stupid - firstly because he will live and die male and secondly because we wouldn’t say someone who grew up wealthy but went broke as an adult lacks class privilege. He wants to be oppressed so bad. It’s why he did a whole video about something that, to women, is, like, a tiny little micro-aggression in lieu of what they actually have to contend with.
Yep. That’s a thing. I attached a paper by Hsu et al. (2015) and have discussed this before. Men who like trannies (“chasers”, GAMPs) are significantly more likely to be autogynephiles themselves. In other words, the only people who are into trannies are (statistically) other trannies. Sometimes out, sometimes closeted, but tranny nevertheless.
This is why so many troons have dated someone who, in time, troons out. HSTS troons like Paris Lees experience it all the time, as ChaCha explained. Part of Nick’s hatred of and obsession with Robbie White was his desire to fuck / be him. Ute Haggen, Shannon Thrace, and other “trans-widows” frequently describe their husbands fucking (HSTS) tranny prostitutes or letting men fuck them in the ass before trooning out themselves. Sometimes it’ll happen to one AGP by another AGP (ex. Nick and Oliver). The point is that it’s all erotic target identity inversions. AGPs want to fuck women so they LARP as women. Others want to fuck femboys so they LARP as that to gain access to them (ex. Keffals, Bobposting). Some are bisexuals and genuinely want both (and then will deny their bisexuality and insist they’re straight and “attracted to femininity” while fucking a full-on dude. I included a live link above with a timestamp at 4:15. Archive (sans timestamp) is here.
In the end, it really doesn’t matter. They’re mentally ill. And it’s a little hard for me to have much compassion for Hontra, Robbie, Paris, and the folks described here:
can promise you that a lot of trans people I know in London do not like Ollie, although their seething about him has softened considerably since he's stopped trying to insert himself into every single trans rights protest
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Boo hoo! They’re mad that some bloated gammon-faced freak is following them around? Instead of what? Staying “in the closet” and cheating with them on his wife, like chasers did back in the ‘80s? Exposing their wives and children to HIV/AIDS like the men in Detransition, Baby? Does seeing Olly make them realize that every man who wants them is some variety of faggot? These gay men who have their fantasies of being straight destroyed… these AGP skinwalkers who find themselves skinwalked… they all treated women this way. And now we’re supposed to give a fuck? I don’t. I hope Olly stays in London, gets more entrenched in tranny politics, and all those trannies concerned about respectability politics or “optics” or whatever can throw themselves into the fucking Thames. These men are getting a fraction of what they inflict in others, and I think that’s great. I included an archive of Destransition, Baby if you want to read about some smug tranny laughing at a woman who had to get IVF. Why was he laughing? Why did she need IVF? Because her husband got HIV from letting a “woman” pozz his neghole with “her” feminine penis. And their son’s name? Nick “the Knife” Fuentes.
Here are some funny pictures:
He says, with a Kubrick stare.
His mom has some crazy super-vision, right? And it’s likely Oliver is colour-blind, like many other men, right? To this day, I have no clue why he paired magenta / fuchsia and red in the same outfit. He should have asked a female for help. The AGP colourblindness strikes again. Truly hideous.
Obviously this is a knock-off of Hontra’s “Tabby” character and his outfits from the video, Cringe. Oliver’s hair is so fucking crispy and gross-looking even though it’s short. Usually hair only gets like that at the ends if it’s very long. The way he always has his mouth open in these selfies reminds me of how Gail Dines would describe the archetypal pornographic woman with a “fuck me” face.
Note, I mentioned Oliver being colourblind, which is funny because I said something about that in relation to Nick, once.
It’s not like the sex chromosomes specifically are involved [in colour perception]. It’s not like that succinctly explains whythere are 8-16 colourblind boys for every colourblind girl. No, it’s not that. [CHUBE] is just too aesthetically sensitive.
Choosing to go to St Andrews of all places say its all about his true feelings about how much things like this matter. ... also, as a mirrorworld bonus, its a lot easier to sell yourself as a radical, and get away with stewart lee standup full rip off up there
Oliver has this thing where he develops friendships online and then fantasizes about moving to wherever that friend lives. Usually there will be some pretence of networking and job opportunities, but sex also appears to be a motive.
To be honest, it gives me the impression that he probably doesn't have a huge social network irl and probably dreams of having that. That's why moving to where ever his new "best" friend lives seems so appealing to him, not realising that having an active social life like that takes a lot of work.
Add that he overall just seems socially awkward (look at his interactions with Paris Lees) and I'd assume a lot of people end up being "busy" when he tries to connect.
And now we’re supposed to give a fuck? I don’t. I hope Olly stays in London, gets more entrenched in tranny politics, and all those trannies concerned about respectability politics or “optics” or whatever can throw themselves into the fucking Thames. These men are getting a fraction of what they inflict in others, and I think that’s great.
I wasn't suggesting anyone was supposed to be on their side, it was more for context that he's not exactly beloved in left wing organising spaces. Unlike the shitlords who made Envy/Desire, their stated objections aren't that he fell down the GAMP-AGP pipeline because even if they're thinking it, that's too wrongthink to say. The criticisms are more about his words and actions - and he's not cancelled, just cold shouldered. Ollie isn't banned from attending trans protests and still is acknowledged as a public figure but he's not viewed as a guest of honour or revered as a font of wisdom. For example he was invited to the Trans Pride press brunch at The Mandrake this year;
and while the Facebook page used a 20 second talking head because PhilosophyTube = clicks and engagement, you'll notice he wasn't part of the panel of leaders from the trans community, he was just a face in the crowd at an event it wasn't exactly difficult to get invited to. Bimini Bon Boulash was treated with more importance, and Bimini's basically just a gobby drag queen with a podcast (but people generally like Bimini). Then he seemingly skipped the actual march and speeches on the day.
This is what makes it funny. If he was "cancelled" or vocally criticised for being a creepy weirdo then he could construct a victim narrative. But "I don't get treated as important and the organisers don't invite me to their parties" doesn't quite cut the mustard, does it? He can't really say much about not being allowed to make everything about himself or for being bad at activism. It's part of the reason Ollie's so rude to his fans, because his fans don't have any real social capital so he just tries to use them to impress people he wants to be his fans.
A little insight into the way he thinks - he actually seems to believe that he's a serious philosopher, yet can't bear to think about, or even acknowledge the existence of, a vast range of ideas because he doesn't want to "have a bad time".
Oliver is taking the rest of December off. He’s traveling to the US. (He says he’s going to a place in the US that is currently zero degrees.) He was in Ireland last week. A commenter says his dress is giving “rich Auntie vibes.” He leaves for the US Wednesday. I guess we can presume to Montana for Tony Reed’s wedding?
Why Can’t We Build Better Cities was his best vid numbers-wise. But it’s not his favorite. His fave is the Judith Butler one. He loves the “acting” with him and Rhees in that one. He doesn’t like to make his “queerness” front and center but he likes at least one vid a year to be The Gay One. He says when they shot that one he had just started working out in earnest. He’s now the strongest and biggest he’s ever been. His fave moment of the year was the moment they wrapped in DEX.
The video on Death underperformed. He was pleased there was a section on Palestine in it though. He thinks his fave look this year is the “cowgirl” one.
He says his upstairs neighbor’s shower leaked onto his light fixtures on the ceiling and they’re all broken. He congratulates a commenter for “yeeting the teets.”
12 million views this year. He added 96,000 subs this year. This year was not as good as last year though. He made fewer vids this year but put more work in to them. He doesn’t know what he’s doing “acting-wise” next year yet. He also may leave the country. He says the acting industry has been “on its ass” this year. He was most scared this year at the premiere of The Acolyte. He practiced his poses again and again before he turned up. He wore the same dress from that premiere to the live Kill James Bond. He’s very grateful for Morgana this year. She’s been one of his best friends and a constant source of kindness and inspiration. She’s like a sister now.
(33 mins) he’s showing the premiere pics and someone says he like looks like Phoebe Walker Bridges. Oliver responds that people say that all the time and it kind of upsets him because she’s almost a decade older than him and several inches shorter. “I’m just a white woman with short brown hair” he says with a bit of acid. He repeats: “She’s like a decade older than me…like…don’t say that…”.
Someone says that Dave Wiskus seems like a good guy. Oliver agrees. He says that Dave is another good friend. He says not only had Dave given him career opportunities this year they’ve also gotten “closer” both as “friends and colleagues.” He says Dave is a “real sweetheart. Shout out to Dave who’s just a wonderful, wonderful sweetheart.”
He signed with a new manager this year and he’s really grateful for them too. He won’t be showing a pic of them though for “security reasons.” The manager is American. Oliver has learned that Americans control the film industry, even in Britain. He says if someone with an American accent turns up on a (British) set, everyone stands at attention. Even if a piece is being filmed in the UK, “it’s being run out of an office in LA.” He says the film industry is booming in Britain, but “it’s booming under the control of Americans.” He says, “if you want in the top level, not the shit level, if you want good roles and to be challenged - particularly if you’re a trans woman and you want to be seen as an actor and not as like Dead Hooker 2- if you’ve got ambition like I do, then that’s where you gotta be baby. So yes, in short, I love having an American manager they are really really great.”
He was approached by publishers to write a non fiction book about how the NHS treats trans people but he turned it down. He says he’s “raw” “rude” and “sassy” on tumblr. His fave films this year were I Saw the TV Glow and People’s Joker. He went to Glasgow to see the premiere. He’s been texting with Vera Drew. His fave fiction book was Wrath Goddess Sing (some tranny thing.) His fave music of the year was seeing Caroline Rose. He pans the camera to show us that he has a pic of Kim Petras on his wall. He had an “uncomfortable experience” with “someone trying to pick me up” at Kim’s concert though. He also liked Slayyter this year. Morgana turns him on to a lot of “angry music” and goth rock.
One of his lowest moments of the year was “when the Cass review dropped.” Also the US election. Before the election he felt confident about moving to the US “when the Dems win” and having a great career. He was very worried about his American friends. Leaving his old agent and signing with the new manager was also a scary moment. There was a month where he was “out on his own” in between the two and that was really really scary. He had a pretty big breakup this year. A multi year relationship ended. He didn’t have time to process it really due to filming. But he did fall in love again. It’s been “truly very special.” He’s planning on growing his hair out a little longer. He met Dylan Mulvaney this year. Dylan is “a tiny, tiny lady.” He hung out with Dylan and Alan Cumming. The challenge show that he’s going to be on comes out on NYE. He felt comfortable because this was BBC entertainment and not BBC news, which he implies is transphobic.
His resolutions are to stop name searching on Twitter and to write a feature film script. He’ll be back in the UK for Christmas with his parents. There’s an acting seminar type video coming soon which is the last pic below. [\spoiler]
PWB *must* have semi recently parred him off in some personal way, either trully dramatically or just casually but inflated by Tubes own narcissistic injury, for him to be going this hard repeating that "she's like a decade older than me" (not quite, 7/8 years)
Or is he trully that socially retarded as to not realise that's not how women talk about each other, ew don't compare me to that old HAG please?
Demonstrating more brilliant chess strategy for acting work, tubey!
Darling of the industry, seems like a good person to not keep your seethe about in check. Just like the literary agent. Just like the trans activists. Just like Contrapoints. Just like the Prince play actors. Just like the universities. Just like the gov contracts. Just like the actress on the Django set. Just like the whole Django set actually. Just like Private eye, The times, the BBC, the entire female sex.
Just like~
Not like people talk. I mean, he talks, only about himself. But other people talk about other things, and other people. Even people they haven't had sex with.
Oh! Has Chube being weird multiple times on his social media about a girl at Kim Pederast been massaged into a different situation? Interesting.
To be honest, it gives me the impression that he probably doesn't have a huge social network irl and probably dreams of having that. That's why moving to where ever his new "best" friend lives seems so appealing to him, not realising that having an active social life like that takes a lot of work.
Add that he overall just seems socially awkward (look at his interactions with Paris Lees) and I'd assume a lot of people end up being "busy" when he tries to connect.
mins) he’s showing the premiere pics and someone says he like looks like Phoebe Walker Bridges. Oliver responds that people say that all the time and it kind of upsets him because she’s almost a decade older than him and several inches shorter. “I’m just a white woman with short brown hair” he says with a bit of acid. He repeats: “She’s like a decade older than me…like…don’t say that…”.
PWB *must* have semi recently parred him off in some personal way, either trully dramatically or just casually but inflated by Tubes own narcissistic injury, for him to be going this hard repeating that "she's like a decade older than me" (not quite, 7/8 years)
It's so fucking rude! And yes, it makes me think that he tried to reach out to her to work on some project together and he got rejected, just as he did with Andrew Wylie. Even taking into account Choob's monumental lack of tact and social skills, it's hard to imagine someone as ambitious as he is would so willingly insult such a successful and well-connected person in showbiz unless the bridges had already been burnt.
His fave films this year were I Saw the TV Glow and People’s Joker. He went to Glasgow to see the premiere. He’s been texting with Vera Drew. His fave fiction book was Wrath Goddess Sing (some tranny thing.) His fave music of the year was seeing Caroline Rose. He pans the camera to show us that he has a pic of Kim Petras on his wall.
Despite all his pretentions, he's still such a typical lowbrow troon. His pre-transition self at least affected to enjoy serious literature like Shakespeare and Nabokov. Now it's all just porn-adjacent garbage and TRA fantasies about murdering and raping TERFs. Gender ideology eats away the brain like Alzheimer's.
It'll be on BBC Iplayer for sure, I dunno how it is accessing it from abroad. I dunno if you just need a VPN and to sign in, I don't think they do anything to confirm your licence or that it would have any effect on a non UK citizen if they did.
I looked through the thread using the search function, but I didn’t see anything that said that. I did see something about a YouTube account called “Stephanie” that may have been related to SNL825. Not saying you’re wrong, only that I tried looking up what you said and found nothing.
I would have more sympathy for him if he didn’t throw people away all the time. Look how rude he is to his fans. He only wants to be friends with the best-of-the-best.
Agreed. Or the Phoebe Waller Bridge stuff people are talking about now. He’s just so rude, which is funny, given the “nice guy” routine he previously employed. As someone else said:
Oh no, I wasn’t saying you were saying that, nor was I directing hostility your way. I’m just saying I would not be able to hold my tongue as you do, I’d lose my temper.
And I appreciate that. It definitely conforms to the online leftist spaces. I’m fairly certain Matt Christman of Chapo Trap House referred to Olly as the “weird British guy”, even though he did an interview with Nick (but I couldn’t find a source). I shared this video before, which describes Philosophy Tube as a discount ContraPoints. There’s something funny about a man saying that a man who LARPs as a woman is a “cheap imitation” of another man who LARPs as a woman.
There’s also other memes made by troons and leftists that satirize Olly. Pooners and Chubelets are a trans invention, for example. Or this post on r/Destiny:
Posted 3 years ago to 269 upvotes and 162 comments. Ratio’edagain.
Or, this post on r/youtubedrama, which, admittedly, is not a “lefty” subreddit. However, I’m including it because it’s a bunch of HBombrguy fans, who are lefties, accusing Olly of ripping Harry off.
u/costbasilisk said:
Philosophy Tube's new video is also about plagiarism!
I remember reading about a troon who got to use the women’s bathroom at work, but then all the women started using the disability bathroom, even though it was more inconvenient. The tranny had a meltdown, but he couldn’t do much because the boss can’t force the women to use the bathroom with him. Someone else remarked that the story demonstrated how trannies really struggle to handle these subtle, feminine forms of exclusion.
Why would he be? He transitioned, like, four years ago. If I was some faggot whose East End dad beat me, and now I’m so buckbroken I pretend to be a straight chick, some hetero-ish fancy-lad like Oliver would piss me off, too.
Or the Phoebe Waller Bridge stuff people are talking about now. He’s just so rude, which is funny, given the “nice guy” routine he previously employed.
His seething over PWB is hilarious. She is literally everything he wishes he could be:
A tall, thin brunette
An award-winning playwright and actress
Who was able to parlay that into a Hollywood career
Okay sure I guess Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny isn't going to get her in the history books, but it's still a hell of a lot better than Dracula's Ex-Girlfriend...
Basically a short film about a HSTS going out with a "straight" boyfriend, but said "straight" boyfriend is revealed to be a sissy hypno fetishist with GAMP/AGP who's only attracted to the protagonist because he's vicariously living out his own self-sissification fantasies (and stealing lingerie to do it). The AGP then decides to start walking about in drag and cringes the HSTSes out. It was not a very good film (although I'll credit the line "two's company, three's a clock" with making me laugh) but it caused SO MUCH seething because it said the quiet part out loud, and the producer had to issue a clarification that it was about "AGPs not transbians, if it was about transbians we would have included programmer socks". It's relevant to this thread because it finally got Contra on the record about Ollie
He bought he own hype from his YouTube channel. When he came out he declared himself as the "most famous trans person in the UK" and immediately started inserting himself to give speeches at various rallies. The problem he discovered was that "famous to Americans who watch breadtube" is not very similar to being famous in the UK, or even famous to British trans people who have their own network of activists and microcelebrities.
His seething over PWB is hilarious. She is literally everything he wishes he could be:
A tall, thin brunette
An award-winning playwright and actress
Who was able to parlay that into a Hollywood career
Okay sure I guess Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny isn't going to get her in the history books, but it's still a hell of a lot better than Dracula's Ex-Girlfriend...
The irony about him complaining about Phoebe Waller-Bridge's age is that most people's point of reference for "what does Phoebe Waller-Bridge look like" is Fleabag, which filmed in 2016.
She was literally the same age Ollie is now (31) when it came out. Even if we're talking about Season 2, that filmed in 2018. The only time she's been in front of the camera since has been for that Indiana Jones film that I don't think many people watched, and even then she hasn't aged that much.
It's possible that he might have reached out to collaborate with her and got rudely rejected - it would be very funny if that were the case, although I'm struggling to picture the situation where they'd cross paths. I think mostly he's probably seething because he doesn't find Phoebe Waller-Bridge attractive, maybe gets on edge that he's being compared to another very posh person descended from Baronets (having read various thinkpieces about Fleabag being Problematic), and maybe would rather be compared to some transgender porn star. Or possibly because people have correctly identified she's his current skinwalking fixation and he feels called out lol
Oof I can feel the narc energy radiating from that video. What do you think the chances are that there is one iota of critisism of Toobs performances in that entire video?
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