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[Yamamura]

I think you're thinking of John Deere the tractor/farming equipment company but I wouldn't be surprised with any car manufacturer also being against it.

Is Ford the one who hates customer right to repair?

For what it's worth this article seems to say:
https://patch.com/massachusetts/quincy/car-companies-spend-25-million-against-right-repair

According to campaign finance reports, General Motors contributed $5.1 million to the anti-Right to Repair campaign, Toyota and Ford each gave $4.2 million, and Honda gave $2.8 million. Other car manufacturers such as BMW, Nissan, and Hyundai contributed the rest of the funding.

So it looks like it's pretty much every major one.

I know the urbanists will use this as a point against cars, but I would still disagree that notion. I still think the invention of the car itself is extremely useful tool even if the manufacturers are dicks. The companies that make computers and smartphones (and internet service providers) are sometimes pretty draconian in their unethical business tactics, but I wouldn't say anyone has used that to argue against using computers as an invention as a whole. There's a point the concept of the invention itself must be separated from the bad decisions being made by the people who make it.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

For what it's worth this article seems to say:
https://patch.com/massachusetts/quincy/car-companies-spend-25-million-against-right-repair

So it looks like it's pretty much every major one.

I know the urbanists will use this as a point against cars, but I would still disagree that notion. I still think the invention of the car itself is extremely useful tool even if the manufacturers are dicks. The companies that make computers and smartphones (and internet service providers) are sometimes pretty draconian in their unethical business tactics, but I wouldn't say anyone has used that to argue using computers as an invention as a whole. There's a point the concept of the invention itself must be separated from the bad decisions being made by the people who make it.

It's not like bugmen will give up their electronic devices (the modern bugman will swallow Apple's jizz...which is something that just didn't happen prior to the iPhone) and I doubt they do their own repairs on bicycles.

 

[TowinKarz]

Imagine the filth of the Bodega washroom compared to the Gigachad Buccees Washrooms.

The tender racism of lefties strikes again.

Imagine eventually having to defend filth instead of admitting to it if it comes from POCs, and blaming whites for making the filthy look bad by comparison by having *checks notes* clean restrooms.

You hate to love to hate to see it.

 

[Kiska]

The tender racism of lefties strikes again.

Imagine eventually having to defend filth instead of admitting to it if it comes from POCs, and blaming whites for making the filthy look bad by comparison by having *checks notes* clean restrooms.

You hate to love to hate to see it.

Since when did "the left" have public bathrooms? Isn't the thing with these super expensive and gentrified cities that outside your place or work there's pretty much nowhere to take a piss in if you have to, while in far cheaper places they're quite plentiful and free?

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Just watched the original vid this guy made and it wasn't even that bad. Why were people calling him racist for him saying "why the hell can't I find a regular grocery store with meat and cheese or something?"

Kind of a "They hated him because he told the truth" thing.

Since when did "the left" have public bathrooms? Isn't the thing with these super expensive and gentrified cities that outside your place or work there's pretty much nowhere to take a piss in if you have to, while in far cheaper places they're quite plentiful and free?

"The left" likes public bathrooms but they don't understand that to have public bathrooms and other nice things, you have to have a functioning society and draw the line at unacceptable behavior. On my old 2014-2022 account I brought up something that I heard about back in high school and I'll transcribe the original post here.

Back in the early 1990s, a company from France tested some self-cleaning toilet kiosks in New York City where they had been successfully used in Paris. They had real water, toilet paper, handwashing facilities...but a vocal minority demanded ADA compliant stalls, which not only drove up the cost but also had larger stalls, which could be used for prostitution, drug use, etc., and after the project run they were torn down.

San Francisco, however, took up that challenge. They used the more expensive ADA-compliant stalls (which also took up more space) and it became nothing less than a disaster with drug and fecal detritus, drug dens, prostitution centers, homeless hidey-holes, and the like.

The reason why Buc-ee's can still have public restrooms is that in addition to figuring out a model where they can sell people overpriced crap and appropriately have highly-paid jannies, it's also because most people who visit Buc-ee's know how to properly use a public toilet and not shit on the floor or use it for gay hookups or use it to do drugs. By and large, "urban people" cannot do the same, and it's why you can't just plop down a Buc-ee's in the middle of a city and have it work the same way.

 

[LeChampion1992]

This is another thing I hate with NYC area planners, they're so blindly obedient to Eric Adams they won't entertain any criticism of the MTA like this. When even Russia, who runs their entire country off an economy as big as NY state's, can manage to have stations like this:

you know that 90% of the MTA's funding is lining the pockets of whatever politician is in charge at the time. I truly think that at a deep level they're aware of the grift that's going on and want to join in on it rather than question anything or see the MTA improve, because like all yuppies all they care about is their own and not actually changing things for the better

I will be honest the deep south will have better subways and mass transit than new york or philly and even more diversity but feel more civilized and safer like a first world country.

 

[DavidS877]

By and large, "urban people" cannot do the same, and it's why you can't just plop down a Buc-ee's in the middle of a city and have it work the same way.

The other reason Buc-ee's does well is they exclude truckers. Who tend to be the ones using the prostitutes and drugs in the far-flung places where a Buc-ee's is located. Usually there's a truck stop nearby so they're not left out.

 

[LaxerBRO]

This is another thing I hate with NYC area planners, they're so blindly obedient to Eric Adams they won't entertain any criticism of the MTA like this. When even Russia, who runs their entire country off an economy as big as NY state's, can manage to have stations like this:

you know that 90% of the MTA's funding is lining the pockets of whatever politician is in charge at the time. I truly think that at a deep level they're aware of the grift that's going on and want to join in on it rather than question anything or see the MTA improve, because like all yuppies all they care about is their own and not actually changing things for the better

I would be careful to compare the NYC subway system with the ones in Moscow. The NYC subway was one of the first systems in the world and was privately built as opposed to a state funded system that is Moscow.

Still, I think that Western nations are too soft with vagrancy and disorderly behavior leading to public transit being shit.

 

[Internet Wizard]

The NYC subway was one of the first systems in the world and was privately built as opposed to a state funded system that is Moscow.

It's not like we've had breakthroughs in historic preservation or renovation since, or even public consolidation of transport!
It's a foreign concept to America but that doesn't mean it's a foreign concept to any locality

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

It's not like bugmen will give up their electronic devices (the modern bugman will swallow Apple's jizz...which is something that just didn't happen prior to the iPhone) and I doubt they do their own repairs on bicycles.

You don’t remember the Blackberry craze that preceded Apple IPhones??

Since when did "the left" have public bathrooms? Isn't the thing with these super expensive and gentrified cities that outside your place or work there's pretty much nowhere to take a piss in if you have to, while in far cheaper places they're quite plentiful and free?

The urbanist can’t comprehend the simple pleasure in life of pissing outside on their own secluded property.

The other reason Buc-ee's does well is they exclude truckers. Who tend to be the ones using the prostitutes and drugs in the far-flung places where a Buc-ee's is located. Usually there's a truck stop nearby so they're not left out.

Nowadays a good majority of those truckers are Pajeets so it’s only a matter of time till Buccees gets called racist for not allowing Jeet Truck drivers to use their facilities.

Buccees clean washrooms will turn into Buccees designated shitting streets

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

I would be careful to compare the NYC subway system with the ones in Moscow. The NYC subway was one of the first systems in the world and was privately built as opposed to a state funded system that is Moscow.

the London underground was also privately built, is older still (the first purpose-built part opened in 1863, and many of the former main line stations in the outer suburbs are even older), and it didn't become a fully integrated system until 1933
but the difference is the owners have some civic pride, and many of its historic features are very well preserved

 

[Xarpho's Return]

You don’t remember the Blackberry craze that preceded Apple IPhones??

Blackberry was the "best thing" before iPhones but they weren't common outside of certain circles, and they didn't have the cult of personality that surrounded the iPhone. Apple stores existed in 2007 in nice malls and had been building up its cachet over the years as a luxury brand but it didn't really come together until after 2007. Before Blackberry there were the Palm Pilots with the integrated cell phones and so on, but they had an even smaller audience.

It's like how MySpace existed in 2005 as social media but the Internet ecosystem was wildly different.

 

[Kiska]

The urbanist can’t comprehend the simple pleasure in life of pissing outside on their own secluded property.

Oh no they do, their "secluded property" is just the back alley behind their apartment though

 

[Apple Porcupine]

Checked in on Threads Urbanist and it turns out he's transitioned to BlueSky Urbanist (Archive) because he's desperate for engagement.

Usual talking points taken verbatim from Jason, nothing really new here.

He still uses a car:

He's also strapped for cash despite his bike giving him "more financial freedom":

Only thing of note is his insistence for "third places designed primarily for adults".

Guess he hates kids. Wouldn't surprise me if he's shifted over to the anti-natalism sect, these two kind of go hand-in-hand. I'm sure his wife is fine with that and doesn't fantasize about other men.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Do these people think wild cars roam the world, inhabited by nothing but the machine?

Do they not realize people drive in the cars?

 

[Xarpho's Return]

He's also strapped for cash despite his bike giving him "more financial freedom":

There's that NPC meme that I lost where it was "cars make you poor" and "wow, you must be rich, then" and then

Pretty sure it was on this thread.

 

[Yamamura]

It's not like bugmen will give up their electronic devices (the modern bugman will swallow Apple's jizz...which is something that just didn't happen prior to the iPhone) and I doubt they do their own repairs on bicycles.

Ask them if any of them have actually repaired their e-bike instead of just getting a new one.

He still uses a car:

He's implying the Escalade won't fit but he took a picture of it before it finished parking because it isn't in straight yet. Any car won't fit if you're entering in that angle. The parking lines are designed to fit. They are predrawn to fit. This guy sucks.

Only thing of note is his insistence for "third places designed primarily for adults".

Genetic dead end.

 

[Apple Porcupine]

Do these people think wild cars roam the world, inhabited by nothing but the machine?

Do they not realize people drive in the cars?

This is one of Jason's talking points. Quote from his most recent video:

"An increase in business revenue from bike lanes has been consistently seen in many other cities, and one of the major reasons for this is because car speeds are slower. On city streets, there is a direct correlation between the speed and volume of car traffic, and the financial viability of local businesses. Because cars don’t buy things, people do."

He does literally see it exactly as you described, there are no people in those cars going to and from businesses. He also doesn't even cite any specific studies for this.

 

[Yamamura]

There's that NPC meme that I lost where it was "cars make you poor" and "wow, you must be rich, then" and then

Pretty sure it was on this thread.

Yeah, that was me.

Anyway, I found it funny they keep bringing up this talking point as if they assume everyone is in the same financial dire straights as they are. Like what about people where their car doesn't make up a significant portion of their net worth and their car provides them actual utility. The weather where I am has been below freezing consistently lately. Having a vehicle with a windshield and heater is worth it's weight in gold compared to a e-bike.

Without fail they always manage to bring this up. While cars (in exceptions to classics) don't appreciate in value they enable people more opportunities to gain more value with the utility they provide as a tool. Wanna start a small business, well you're going to need something to make quick runs to collect things at a moment's notice.

Instead of buying anything meaningful with the money saved he spends his money on porn and video games. And unsurprisingly he is a failure to launch. This might seem like a stretch, but it seems like the people who can't drive (barring actual disabilities like being blind) are a lot like this. Perhaps it's because driving involves taking a risk and putting yourself outside of your own comfort zone to do something important. The idea of having any serious responsibilities terrifies them. Why get a job when I can stay home, play games and coom where it's safe.

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[Xarpho's Return]

This is one of Jason's talking points. Quote from his most recent video:

"An increase in business revenue from bike lanes has been consistently seen in many other cities, and one of the major reasons for this is because car speeds are slower. On city streets, there is a direct correlation between the speed and volume of car traffic, and the financial viability of local businesses. Because cars don’t buy things, people do."

He does literally see it exactly as you described, there are no people in those cars going to and from businesses. He also doesn't even cite any specific studies for this.

That's a new level of believing your own bullshit...

I've talked about the exaggeration of transit times but it sounds like he's now the type of person who if you tell him you live in the suburbs and commute to the "city" and tell you it's less than 20 minutes in each direction he'll call you a liar.

Only thing of note is his insistence for "third places designed primarily for adults".

Any place I've lived I've always had a good idea of what I wanted to have in my immediate area within a mile or so (especially if something I wanted to see WAS there and closed down for whatever reason, that was the worse feeling, even if it had been gone for years). These of course varied depending on my situation but I knew what I wanted. A Jack in the Box for those late night meals. A Walmart that didn't suck. A better convenience store. A good little coffee shop. Decent pizza that didn't close at inconvenient hours. A nice park. I knew what I wanted, and if I was unhappy where I was it wasn't due to the amenities or lack thereof.

I think it's clear that these are unhappy people, but it's extremely telling that he's sure that "lack of Third Places™" are the problem in cities yet he struggles to describe what he actually wants and ends up with something that doesn't actually exist. The closest thing he actually wants is an old-timey gentlemen's club (comfy leather seats with cigars, not the type with strippers) at a commoner's price, but he can't actually say that because even if such a place existed it would be verboten to say out loud that you want something more exclusive. (Probably for the better—who'd want someone like him around, anyway?)