Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Sinner's Sandwich]

If I had a tranny skinwalker, I would troll the the shit out of him/her to make them more miserable. It would be hilarious to have a tranny who wants to be me and has mental breakdowns because they can't.

 

[Misogenes]

I was visiting my grandmother the other day and we were talking, eventually the conversation gets around the the Family Troon and transgenders in general. I get to explain all the "fun" bits like the fetish aspect, cult tactics, et cetera. Seemed to make sense to Grandmom, and she shared some anecdotes of people she knew when she was younger who were probably the type to, if they were born fifty years later, go transgender, but instead assumed they were just lesbians. (Turns out they weren't.)

She also shared her first impression of the Family Troon the first time she saw him in women's clothes, a few Thanksgivings ago. Grandmom was so shocked when he rolled up that she just said, "I love your clothes!" because how do you even begin to untangle that when you're that age?

And she did actually like his outfit, which is hilarious to me because now it's confirmed that the Family Troon dresses like an old lady. Lends a bit of credence to my theory that he's trying to skinwalk his narc grandmother, but for now that's not confirmed.

Grandmom is hopeful that he'll "get over it" someday, but I have my doubts. In any case, probably see him for Christmas (whenever he decides to show up because it sure as hell won't be on time) and then we'll probably have the pleasure of avoiding his company for another few months.

 

[TismFarmer]

How do you say all that to people who are really clueless about it. Who really think that if you love someone you will "accept them as they are", no matter what.

Imagine you found out your husband was sexually abusing your children.
A Pedophile is what they are.
Do you accept them as they are? Or do you accept that there are some things you can discover about who your partner is,that completely negates that love and acceptance.

 

[TismFarmer]

How do people like that get the idea of trooning out? I also know a freakishly tall guy who's starting to grow his hair out long in a concerning way (he's also always been kinda shit-lib political).

I wonder is porn just enough to do it?

Blanchard didn't know why, but he noticed a statistically significant number of AGP's had ultra masculine careers. They were very overrepresented in the military,the police, engineering, and computer sciences.

 

[Misogenes]

Blanchard didn't know why, but he noticed a statistically significant number of AGP's had ultra masculine careers.

Ah, yes, the masculine urge to... (checks notes) be the hooker you want to bang.

Could be a maladaptive coping strategy? Or maybe, by being very masculine, they're more willing to succumb to the coom and dive straight into the fetish lifestyle in that way. Weird that there's some gender horseshoe theory going on.

 

[TismFarmer]

I though there was almost zero evidence for this in humans?

When my sons and their friends went through puberty, they all started to smell like men to me.
His friends, whilst not actually attractive to me (for obvious reasons), still smelled like men and it wasn't a bad smell.
My sons however, as soon as they became 'men' they smelled bad to me! I'm not talking about lack of hygiene, just their baseline smell. My oldest son smells terrible to me but his girlfriend loves his scent.
I think that it's a primitive pheromone thing to make the men who are too genetically close unattractive to you.

Holy Triple Post, Batman!
Sorry everyone. I was catching up and didn't realize til I got to the end!

 

[Aunt Carol]

we all obviously have him saved as his birth name, so someone else asks him what it is and he, bold as brass, says "(name), just like (my name, last name). pronounced the same too"

If a troon you're this close to steals your name, you should be "allowed" to react as strongly as if he named a child after you. Or more realistically, as if you talked about naming your daughter after your late grandmother, and he took that name for his kid.

There's no way he can claim he forgot, or didn't know, or ran across it in an anime and it spoke to him when he knew you already. The #1 connotation he had with this name was you. It's nothing like two people in a friend group who happen to have the same name; your parents gave you yours before you met these people, and he looked at you as an adult and said "me too."

Maybe you should change your name in chat to "Name (Original)."

 

[H3LLH4MM3R666]

When my sons and their friends went through puberty, they all started to smell like men to me.
His friends, whilst not actually attractive to me (for obvious reasons), still smelled like men and it wasn't a bad smell.
My sons however, as soon as they became 'men' they smelled bad to me! I'm not talking about lack of hygiene, just their baseline smell. My oldest son smells terrible to me but his girlfriend loves his scent.
I think that it's a primitive pheromone thing to make the men who are too genetically close unattractive to you.

Holy Triple Post, Batman!
Sorry everyone. I was catching up and didn't realize til I got to the end!

Yes, phermones have been heavily studied and tested in humans, if only because companies would absolutely love to sell a cologne scientifically proven to make women horny. But they never work

I don't know if this is related, but my sister would always hang out on my bed when I wasn't home. Either napping or watching TV. She says it's because my TV is better, but I don't see the advantage. And after I went to college my mom and my sister started taking turns sleeping in my bed. What's up with that?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

so, uh, one of my old university friends has taken my name as their "new" name. my name is insanely unique - according to one website:

• Based on the analysis of 100 years worth of data from the Social Security Administration's (SSA) Baby Names database, the estimated population of people named [name] is 0.

we were all in a big WhatsApp group chat, but it slowly died off, as most do. it picks up again for the annual holiday greetings, and suddenly, this man announces he's going by "she/her" now and would love for all of us to call "her" by "her new name".

we all obviously have him saved as his birth name, so someone else asks him what it is and he, bold as brass, says "(name), just like (my name, last name). pronounced the same too"

he then goes on to say that I'm not [origin of name] either, so it's fair game. he apparently picked it because it "sounded pretty", and gave him "a warm feeling". upon further googling, there a lot of fucking trannies with my name, which is just delightful.

If a troon you're this close to steals your name, you should be "allowed" to react as strongly as if he named a child after you. Or more realistically, as if you talked about naming your daughter after your late grandmother, and he took that name for his kid.

There's no way he can claim he forgot, or didn't know, or ran across it in an anime and it spoke to him when he knew you already. The #1 connotation he had with this name was you. It's nothing like two people in a friend group who happen to have the same name; your parents gave you yours before you met these people, and he looked at you as an adult and said "me too."

Maybe you should change your name in chat to "Name (Original)."

You are entitled to a full on duel, rap battle- something.

This is a power and dominance move and it must not go unanswered. You give him this mile and he's going to take the whole damned country.

If the group does not consolidate around you as the Real Name and squeeze him out, rejecting him with the ruthlessness and efficiency of a well-trained immune system dispatching a pathogenic invader, you need to kick the dust off your feet and move on. Who the hell wants to live in that kind of a crazy town?

 

[Paper Machete]

Ah, yes, the masculine urge to... (checks notes) be the hooker you want to bang.

Could be a maladaptive coping strategy? Or maybe, by being very masculine, they're more willing to succumb to the coom and dive straight into the fetish lifestyle in that way. Weird that there's some gender horseshoe theory going on.

I think there is something about these fields that appeals to guys touched with tism. Especially if it's aspects of those field where they'll be dealing with a lot of mechanics. I also suspect that for a lot of them they like the contrast and get a kick out of having such a fetish while around other men, I have no doubt many of them probably wear lingerie to their day jobs, it's just the sort of stuff they do as they work up to being purely exhibitionistic.

The autism part should really be studied for real legit because it's like nearly every single one shows diagnostic criteria for that. Same with pooners. There is just something about that psychology that makes one very susceptible to it. Perhaps the propensity for developing strange fetishes? Developmentally delayed people can be very sexual in their own tard way and autism is technically a developmental disorder despite some still being what we would consider high functioning. Jobs like the military and the police also (usually) have very strict rules of conduct and hierarchy making them easier environment for someone socially stunted to deal with as they're told in black and white terms what to do and say when.

TL;DR I think it's actually that these types of jobs attract autism and it's autism that's the risk factor.

 

[You're MDNWU]

Maybe you should change your name in chat to "Name (Original)."

"Original and Actual" to really spice it up

 

[Aunt Carol]

You give him this mile and he's going to take the whole damned country.

Thinking on this further, he's said in public that her name gives him "a warm feeling."

Eww. @Helvetia needs to hang on to that phrase, but spell it all the way out. "My name gave you a warm feeling, so you decided you wanted to be known by my name." How long has this name been giving him a warm feeling, since you first met in college? What part of his body feels warm?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Thinking on this further, he's said in public that her name gives him "a warm feeling."

Eww. @Helvetia needs to hang on to that phrase, but spell it all the way out. "My name gave you a warm feeling, so you decided you wanted to be known by my name." How long has this name been giving him a warm feeling, since you first met in college? What part of his body feels warm?

This is the hill to die on figuratively, or it could all too easily become one to die on literally. If you haven't read Gavin DeBecker, now is the time to skim through the cliff notes. There is no way this guy is just clueless and benign. This is an act of overt aggression, and the likelihood is that the passivity of the social group has allowed him to believe he can get away with this much and probably more. Draw the line hard, now, and if they don't back you up, it's time to get out and stick to friends who have more firmness of spine.

 

[Wallace]

Ah, yes, the masculine urge to... (checks notes) be the hooker you want to bang.

Could be a maladaptive coping strategy? Or maybe, by being very masculine, they're more willing to succumb to the coom and dive straight into the fetish lifestyle in that way. Weird that there's some gender horseshoe theory going on.

There is often trauma buried underneath paraphilia. See the above on the troon " skinwalk[ing] his narc grandmother". That is how he gets love from someone who could not give it.

 

[Autism Horse]

so, uh, one of my old university friends has taken my name as their "new" name. my name is insanely unique

What is this with troons picking the weirdest names for themselves? They often pick names average person would only associate with some porn actors if anything. Either that or take a normal name and modify the spelling to look more unique. How am I supposed to treat their new identity seriously?

 

[glass_houses]

we all obviously have him saved as his birth name, so someone else asks him what it is and he, bold as brass, says "(name), just like (my name, last name). pronounced the same too"

I had a co-worker tell me some years back that he'd named his new daughter after me. He was joking... partially. He just really liked the name in of itself.

I didn't have the heart to tell him that he was pronouncing it wrong.

Blanchard didn't know why, but he noticed a statistically significant number of AGP's had ultra masculine careers. They were very overrepresented in the military,the police, engineering, and computer sciences.

Look up Russell Williams. He's the ultimate AGP.

 

[Misogenes]

There is often trauma buried underneath paraphilia. See the above on the troon " skinwalk[ing] his narc grandmother". That is how he gets love from someone who could not give it.

Yeah, the family had a massive traumatic event years ago that they're still struggling with today, so I wasn't too surprised when one of the kids trooned out. I just find it interesting that he seems to be emulating his grandmother, but she did live with them for a while due to unrelated reasons.

Though I guess it makes sense that the kid who was physically abusive to his other siblings would maybe feel more attached to another abuser? I don't know enough about the particulars of the family history but the broad strokes I've heard make me think.

The next thought is, "Can he course-correct with enough introspection and/or outside help?" I kind of doubt it, given that this seems tied to his naturally unpleasant personality, and also, it's not our job to fix anyway.

He'll have to hit the bottom on his own and find out the hard way before the option of change even occurs to him, if it ever does. He's too deep in the cult mindset to listen to advice that will save him a lot more misery later.

 

[The Ugly One]

Blanchard didn't know why, but he noticed a statistically significant number of AGP's had ultra masculine careers. They were very overrepresented in the military,the police, engineering, and computer sciences.

High testosterone produces a high sex drive. So my guess is a high-T guy spends more of his waking hours thinking about and pursuing sexual subjects and fetishes, which makes him more prone to falling into a spiral where the fetish completely takes over his life.

Maybe the competitive drive (also linked to testosterone) is part of it, too. Note how often troons talk about themselves as trying to "outdo" women or pass better than the next guy. Gives them a sense of accomplishment, a "challenge" to master.

 

[Not A Bunny]

This is a power and dominance move and it must not go unanswered. You give him this mile and he's going to take the whole damned country.

It's also creepy as fuck. If you aren't worried about this person trying to take your life from you now, you should be. They may not try and kill you, but this is a fucking weird violation of boundaries. It isn't cute. It might have been somewhat of a compliment if he said he admired you and wanted to pay you tribute, but even then, that's for naming a kid, not oneself.

All the names this person could choose, and they just happen to want yours? It gives me the feeling of Rebecca DeMornay in "The Hand that Rocks the Cradle".

I'd personally get the fuck away from this person, and if your friends don't, get away from them, too.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

It's also creepy as fuck. If you aren't worried about this person trying to take your life from you now, you should be. They may not try and kill you, but this is a fucking weird violation of boundaries. It isn't cute. It might have been somewhat of a compliment if he said he admired you and wanted to pay you tribute, but even then, that's for naming a kid, not oneself.

All the names this person could choose, and they just happen to want yours? It gives me the feeling of Rebecca DeMornay in "The Hand that Rocks the Cradle".

I'd personally get the fuck away from this person, and if your friends don't, get away from them, too.

OP needs to make this her holiday anthem this year.