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What the fuck it's real.

Spoiler: WHO PUBLISHED THIS

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The dude involved is active on twitter IIRC, and it's a masterclass in both trying to pretend there's nothing sexual about his fetish comic and trying to get you to enter his magical realm at the same time. The fact that DC let this happen means that either the trolls are now actively targeting the big two to make them look stupid (since the fart fetish shit is basically the same thing the troons and dykes did to Marvel/DC already, only their fetish was lesbians and transsexuals), or they've lost control to the point that someone was able to push his disgusting fetish comic onto the property and NO ONE caught it or was able to stop it.

Spoiler: Magical realm, if you don't get the reference.

It'd be like there officially being Female Custodes made because someone has a muscle mommy fetish, or some Chaos Space Marine chapter making some sort of living nightmare of a bio-womb to create aspirants for new marines. Thank god the 40k setting is immune to such fuckery.

 

[Overpriced Gaming Chair]

Tyranids in 1995
Starcraft released in 1998
Tyranids in 2001

Personally, I could see the plagiarism going either way (possibly even both.)
I'm skeptical about "Starcraft was originally going to be a WH40K game" - the more often cited factoid is that an early Warcraft prototype was pitched to Games Workshop as a licensed Warhammer Fantasy video game. According to this story, it was either rejected outright, or GW demanded too tight of a licensing agreement from Blizzard.

 

[Male Idiot]

Zerg maybe a Nid ripoff, but both are a rip off of the og alien that spawned all the gross bioconstruct aliens.

Giger's phallic creation spread its seed far and wide, down every franchise's throat and out of their stomachs.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

StarCraft was initially going to be a 40K game but GW got cold feet and pulled out part way through the project.

I'm skeptical about "Starcraft was originally going to be a WH40K game"

I read that was just a rumor.

StarCraft is Real Time Strategy video game, made by Blizzard. Despite being THE most balanced asymmetrical RTS ever and the South Korean national religion, StarCraft is most famous in neckbeard society for the "It's all stolen from WH40K" holy war.

Long story short, there are rumors, denied by both Blizzard and GW, that StarCraft was initially developed as a WH40K game, until GW for some retarded reason rescinded their permission to use the 40K universe (like they don't want a part of the bazillion tons of money Blizzard tend to earn for their gamesback then PC gaming was something only a handful of nerds did, compared to consoles, and Blizzard wasn't an established powerhouse, yet; 1998 was the year PC gaming started booming with HL, SC, etc.).

40k is a blatant Mega crossover fanfic, 90% ripped off from 2000 AD, Dune, Foundation, Doom, Alien, Starship Troopers, Star Wars, 1984, Event Horizon, Hyperion (not this one), H.P. Lovecraft, J. R. R. Tolkien, Paradise Lost, Anime about Mecha and so on, all pasted straight onto Warhammer Fantasy anyway.

- StarCraft - 1d6chan

 

[Edward "Caesar" Sallow]

Fuck sake the Kreig box is awful and the codex is just ass too. 10th just feels like a series of false promises and hype.

THIS DISAPOINTMENT PLEASES SLAANESH

 

[AncientPhosphur]

StarCraft 1 was great. Southerners in space. Absolutely loved how you got this book that had a ton of lore in it while you had Terran flying confederacy flags. A shame SC2 took a shit all over SC1 and multiplayer is just a hyper autistic clickfest. I also liked the Terran Marine design better than 40k Space Marines.

 

[Male Idiot]

1d4chan is just internet autist sperging, as funny as it is.

So do not take it at face value.

 

[Humble Architect]

THIS DISAPOINTMENT PLEASES SLAANESH
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“SUFFAH GUARDFAGS, SUFFAH FOR SLAANESH BISCH! GLORY TO THE HONOURABLE THIRD.”
-Brother Ethanicus Oliverus Ralph, Emperor’s Children 51st Company, 1st Assault Squadron. Notice the decadent colours favoured by the increasingly eratic marines in the legion.

 

[augment]

Starcraft blatantly ripped off Warhammer 40k.

I love this timeloop. Let me go grab something to drink first!

 

[Salt_Merchant]

Removing generic infantry units sucks but the upside is that mayyyyybe they will introduce or reintroduce other unique units.

I dont dislike the idea of removing generic units but only if there is more choice as to line infantry. Each line infantry unit will have a different thematic ability for choice. But thats good when there is 5+ choices, not 3.

GW has probably done this to get more people to buy Krieg (not that THAT was ever in doubt) and in 6-12 months introduce another unit.

removing generic units and instead replacing them with different planet specific versions is retarded.

No one thinks of their guard army as some hodgepodge of different planets armies, no they think of their army as the krieg 347th regiment or the cadian 8th.

now instead your guard army will have catachan basic infantry, krieg heavy weapons, attillan rough riders and cadian kasyrkin, it wont look like a uniformed army, it will instead look like your a kid just pulling all your action figures out of the box and playing with whatever.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

Do the chaos gods exist outside the milky way galaxy? I know the Immaterium runs parallel no matter where in the universe you are, but if any faction ever developed a way to fuck off to another galaxy would there still be Slaanesh demons? Would it be a whole new pantheon of gods? Or is it sort of like how Khorne can take many forms but only cares that the blood flows? If the gods exist outside of our galaxy then why do they care so much about ours? Sure they may draw a lot of strength from ours but across the infinite expanse of the universe there must be countless other galaxies they draw power from.

 

[p1138]

Do the chaos gods exist outside the milky way galaxy? I know the Immaterium runs parallel no matter where in the universe you are, but if any faction ever developed a way to fuck off to another galaxy would there still be Slaanesh demons? Would it be a whole new pantheon of gods? Or is it sort of like how Khorne can take many forms but only cares that the blood flows? If the gods exist outside of our galaxy then why do they care so much about ours? Sure they may draw a lot of strength from ours but across the infinite expanse of the universe there must be countless other galaxies they draw power from.

So The Silent King went beyond the galaxy, found tyranids, and came back. There's also a pre imperium probe that's been beaming back things about orks for 15,000 years. There was also a description given a few years back... can't remember what faction it was, but the warp was much calmer the further outside you get.

While the galaxy and warp are infinite, GW has generally implied everything going on in 40k is local to the galaxy it takes place in. No khorne worshippers beyond the galactic rim? Nothing going on, no power there, etc. If I were a speculative lore youtube channel, this is where I'd point out that it means it's possible that other galaxies have their own bubble of BS going on in the warp, and theirs may not be as fucked as ours got due to the War in Heaven between the Necrons and The Old Ones, or potentially worse. Additionally, since the powers of the warp as we know them(the chaos gods) don't even go deep within the warp themselves, that could very well mean the "deep warp" is similar to the empty expanse between galaxies(or possibly the actual link between dimensions like 40k and WFB, but I've never seen anything that would particularly support this). All of that being said, I wouldn't ever expect much from GW about this unless for some weird reason they actually wanted to clarify the origin of the tyranids some day(did they come from another galaxy, were they just waiting outside the galaxy before the activation of the pharos device, did the old ones put them there, did they leave a different galaxy after scouring it of biomatter, etc) and I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.

Remember, there were pantheons of warp gods(the old ones potentially, the eldar gods, gork and mork, etc.) before and while the chaos gods exist in the warp. Unfortunately the best shot at more expansion on this would have been the Ynnari storyline that GW cut short before the third novel.

The next best shot at GW clarifying anything about anything beyond the galaxy would be The Silent King apparently showing up in the 9th Dawn of Fire book(named The Silent King) but that series has been so fucking all over the place I doubt they'd have time to get into anything that interesting in any meaningful way in one book.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

Hey guys, a new Hammer and Bolter trailer is here, and it involves the Guard! So guess what shows up despite it being completely retarded and nonsensical?


Of fucking course.

GW... you blew it the fuck up. You can't. I'd ask if they forgot about Elysians, Salvar Chem Dogs, etc, because the Guard is officially Ultramarine levels of overused. It's like Cadians, Kriegers, and... actually they have used any other regiments to any fanfare? Not counting those goofy ass Solar Auxiliaries.

 

[p1138]

Hey guys, a new Hammer and Bolter trailer is here, and it involves the Guard! So guess what shows up despite it being completely retarded and nonsensical?

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Of fucking course.
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GW... you blew it the fuck up. You can't. I'd ask if they forgot about Elysians, Salvar Chem Dogs, etc, because the Guard is officially Ultramarine levels of overused. It's like Cadians, Kriegers, and... actually they have used any other regiments to any fanfare? Not counting those goofy ass Solar Auxiliaries.

They already did. It was a novel called "Ashes of Cadia" where.. ffs I hated this one..

Spoiler: Ashes of Cadia spoilers... this book was gay.

Ursula Creed, Creed's daughter, 20-ish or so years later, gets a mission to go back to cadia to retrieve a super weapon to save the imperium. Not only are there massive intact chunks of cadia, and there's still power, there's still a whole fucking generation of cadian survivors now including children. The vault, Creed predicted his daughter would hit the rank of castellan or whatever and be sent there for some fucking reason, so she finds the real vault and it's just a data crystal with coordinates for a potential New Cadia for her to found. She cries because she realizes her father cared and it was her mother that was a cunt. There's a love story between Ursula and a medic that was in a penal legion. The cadian kids get rescued. Some colonel with them is gay and tricks the group to visit his house(that's still standing) so they do that for a bit so he can reminisce about his husband and adopted kids. There's another plot of another penal legionnaire that gets pissed when they surprised the cadian scouting party, the ogryn with them gets shot by a sniper because they spooked them, so she turns traitor and decides to assist the lone remaining death guard marine on the planet, so the group of adventurers can spend most of the story running from them like a fucking scooby doo villain. Did I forget to mention the only reason the mission was even difficult and they couldn't just get easily picked up by their ship was due to the weather? Yeah, it's fucking stupid.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

Spoiler: The stupidest shit I've ever read

Oh my God, why

 

[p1138]

Oh my God, why

I can only assume because at this point they can't just move the fuck on or maybe someone thought it was a good idea?

BY THE WAY, I think I forgot to mention in that stupid fucking book... well I guess I did say there were weather issues. But more importantly... the planet still has a breathable atmosphere. Yeah, I'm just going to let the stupidity of that sink in for you.

edit: Even more stupidly this means there is basically nothing stopping the imperium or just the cadians themselves from taking it back, or even just fucking towing it elsewhere for that matter.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

I can only assume because at this point they can't just move the fuck on or maybe someone thought it was a good idea?

BY THE WAY, I think I forgot to mention in that stupid fucking book... well I guess I did say there were weather issues. But more importantly... the planet still has a breathable atmosphere. Yeah, I'm just going to let the stupidity of that sink in for you.

edit: Even more stupidly this means there is basically nothing stopping the imperium or just the cadians themselves from taking it back, or even just fucking towing it elsewhere for that matter.

My Warhammer friend group was not aware of this readable lobotomy, so at the very least it gave me some kind of entertainment, But in all seriousness, this is just... dreadful.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

So The Silent King went beyond the galaxy, found tyranids, and came back. There's also a pre imperium probe that's been beaming back things about orks for 15,000 years. There was also a description given a few years back... can't remember what faction it was, but the warp was much calmer the further outside you get.

Tyranids I expected but Orks? How the hell would Orks manage to escape the galaxy? They're a local species. Unless the implication is the Old Ones planted them outside the galaxy, but why?

GW... you blew it the fuck up. You can't. I'd ask if they forgot about Elysians, Salvar Chem Dogs, etc, because the Guard is officially Ultramarine levels of overused. It's like Cadians, Kriegers, and... actually they have used any other regiments to any fanfare? Not counting those goofy ass Solar Auxiliaries.

Cadians are going to be the new Dark Angels and create a fleet around the last rock of Cadia. I think Steel Legion is pretty popular. I'm surprised they never did anything with them.

 

[p1138]

Tyranids I expected but Orks? How the hell would Orks manage to escape the galaxy? They're a local species. Unless the implication is the Old Ones planted them outside the galaxy, but why?

Yeah... I dunno. I guess the main consideration would be that orks have been around for 60-65 million years or so, and were originally krorks so with enough time having basically devolved into soccer hooligans, just kinda spread out? They aren't like the eldar who would have at least been intelligent enough to go "nothing out there, can't get to the next one, no point in bothering". At any rate, it's usually in ork codexes. Here it is from page 25 of the 8th edition codex. It doesn't say how far it is, where it is, or even if it's left the galaxy yet, presumably it would have if it were pre-imperial. So no idea.

 

[Mr Clark]

removing generic units and instead replacing them with different planet specific versions is retarded.

No one thinks of their guard army as some hodgepodge of different planets armies, no they think of their army as the krieg 347th regiment or the cadian 8th.

now instead your guard army will have catachan basic infantry, krieg heavy weapons, attillan rough riders and cadian kasyrkin, it wont look like a uniformed army, it will instead look like your a kid just pulling all your action figures out of the box and playing with whatever.

Look, that's fair. It would kinda look retarded.

I was talking about specialisation of units. Offensive, defensive, utility, anti-infantty, anti-tank, objective infantry, terrain infantry etc.

I dont have very strong feelings on it tbh. Its more looking at GW half arsing it