Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[FeatherPlucker]

I don't think you can stop these people. Once the cult has "trapped" them, they're usually stuck for life.. particularly the male-to-female troons. Block/ghost and move on. Your friend is essentially "dead".

The creepy sexual stuff is downright innappropriate, and if ever directed at you, I'd tell him to fuck off (politely and firmly).
I'd "politely" ghost him with no announcement or fanfare. Back off and vanish, he's been taken in by the cult, he thinks he's a Demi-goddess, superior to you... or worse case scenario, sees a potential relationship with you as a way to "affirm" himself.
If you blow up in his face he'll just character assassinate you or suicide bait you... so block and ghost is the only way... in my opinion.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Once the cult has "trapped" them, they're usually stuck for life.

It's why they want the kids.

When you're young, your life has a way of imprinting on you. The younger you start anything, the easier it is for you to pick up and the more it's rooted in your brain and body. Everything: health, habits, socialization, relationships.

The older you are, the less things tend to take root and the easier you can be convinced not to do anything out of sheer inertia.

If you get a kid, they're not only imprinted with the idea that they're on a path they can't stop, but if the base is broken with their family, it will be for their whole lives.

That's why the concept of "trans kids" is so fucking sinister. It's not just "we'll transition your kid", it's also, "we'll kill your relationship with your kid permanently, so even if you can stop us, you'll never get them back."

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

I recall some discussion about Homestuck in this thread before, and I had a theory which popped back into my mind about it in relation to this issue, so I'll paraphrase it here:

The old MSPA site where the comic used to be hosted for a long time ran NSFW ads advertising trans porn webcomics. That plus the SJW culture of Tumblr probably intersected at one point given how big the Homestuck community was on Tumblr at its height. Andrew Hussie probably realized that his primary demographic was teenage girls on Tumblr, so he made it blatantly obvious he was pandering to them all while implying he planned the entire story years in advance, and he (admittedly and deliberately) doubled down on things by making every last character in the comic gay because MUH PROGRESS.

 

[The Lawgiver]

NSFW ads advertising trans porn webcomics.

I don't remember trans porn comics, but I do remember there being NSFW webcomics advertised, and those were around long before homestuck. I don't think the gay melodrama shit was pre-planned with how meandering and stretched out it was, butI think the shit with LE turning out to be a funny little bald green space alien autist kid that through sheer force of will became near god levels of strength only to decide to run a goofy fucking time travel mafia might've been given how it was like one of the actually few actually funny bits.
Also I think it's important to point out a lot of the currently most vocal parts of the "homestuck fandom" you run into online are comprised of the kind of people that either don't read the comic or "skip past the problematic parts".

 

[Baraadmirer]

the other day she started deliberately making her voice crack because she thought it was a cool sign of progress but man did it make me sad.

This tells me the person you know doesn't have singing as a passion. Most of the stories I hear from singers who transition are that they lament losing their range.

 

[Virtual Boring]

Just lost another one and when I spoke up and provided examples of what happens. They sent cops to my house under "suspicion of suicide." I was speaking in a local community trying to help people, been there for years. I'm incredibly sad but I made it entirely clear I could not participate in a community where that was acceptable. They covered for the tranny who I know did it.

Sad story but there's gonna be a lot like that. Total bitch move, but that is apparently what's allowed.

 

[Kiislova]

Just lost another one and when I spoke up and provided examples of what happens. They sent cops to my house under "suspicion of suicide." I was speaking in a local community trying to help people, been there for years. I'm incredibly sad but I made it entirely clear I could not participate in a community where that was acceptable. They covered for the tranny who I know did it.

Sad story but there's gonna be a lot like that. Total bitch move, but that is apparently what's allowed.

So let me get this straight. You raised concerns regarding what happens what and some troon sent the cops on you, and then the community covered up for the tranny, even though they/you know it was the troon.

And as s result of them covering up for the "wellness check" attempt you fucked off.

 

[Virtual Boring]

So let me get this straight. You raised concerns regarding what happens what and some troon sent the cops on you, and then the community covered up for the tranny, even though they/you know it was the troon.

And as s result of them covering up for the "wellness check" attempt you fucked off.

Correct. I'm done playing games and covering for them. I'd rather pull from the community than be subject to that kind of crap.

Edit to correct my grammar and also to say: It ain't worth it at this point. As much as I wanna stand up, I am comfortable with what I have and you know they tend to threaten it.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

So let me get this straight. You raised concerns regarding what happens what and some troon sent the cops on you, and then the community covered up for the tranny, even though they/you know it was the troon.

And as s result of them covering up for the "wellness check" attempt you fucked off.

The troon just did the irl version of what they do online.

Ever post wrongthink on FB or Reddit or another more pozzed site- even something you didn't realize was wrongthink because it wasn't especially edgy- and suddenly get a bunch of spams to your inbox from some bot telling you to call 988 if you are thinking about suicide? Trannies routinely use the "I'm concerned about this poster" button as a way to harass others.

This one just took it to real life. Which it's lucky OP was smart and cool headed, that kind of thing can go south quickly.

For people who bawl all day and night every day about how suicidal they are, trannies sure do seem to think mental health, and the resources needed to protect people in true crisis, is a big old joke.

 

[and I must scream]

Just lost another one and when I spoke up and provided examples of what happens. They sent cops to my house under "suspicion of suicide." I was speaking in a local community trying to help people, been there for years. I'm incredibly sad but I made it entirely clear I could not participate in a community where that was acceptable. They covered for the tranny who I know did it.

Sad story but there's gonna be a lot like that. Total bitch move, but that is apparently what's allowed.

I'm sorry, I swear I'm not trying to be thick, I just don't fully understand. You lost another what? A friend or someone from the community to the trans cult?

 

[BIG SHOT Autos]

A bit of a powerlevel, but fuck it, I'm tired. A friend of mine is plotting to run to America through Mexico as an illegal immigrant to troon out, despite openly admitting that she was groomed into it. I hope it goes nowhere. If it does, I will never forgive the third party involved in all this.

An update of sorts, 5 months later.

Spoiler: I'm a bit emotional

I was hoping she will drop this idea. No. She's still set on buying a ticket to Mexico, illegally crossing the border, getting into jail and waiting for the aforementioned third party (which actively enables her to do all this shit) to find a lawyer to bail her out and go into the court to prove she's seeking for political asylum, then later get a job that covers tranny surgeries and go on HRT and chop off her tits.

For starters, she literally has nothing to offer as a proof of oppression other than "el ge bee tees are not welcome in my home country and I can't transition to validate my special xenogender identity". I scratched the surface years ago and even back in the day, as the bare minimum you needed to have an irrefutable, documented proof of active oppression against you, and even in case of you getting arrested for stuff or video evidence of you getting beaten almost to death, it was still hard to prove that you need an asylum. Living the life of an average citizen that is too lazy to work and wants to chop off breasts is not an opression.
More so, I was recently getting info on immigration issues that citizens of general local area specifically experience, for unknown reason. Even legal migrants that seek for asylum are getting jailed for indefinite amount of time, with no way of getting help, and on top of that getting pressed by all sorts of criminals that are getting caught on Mexican border. The post I read even specifically highlighted that young lonely white women are getting it the worst. No surprise.

I expected this information to be a wake up call. No. Her response is that she knows that jails are horrifying, and that's why she's working out and tries to eat well, to prepare for the most horrific abuse imaginable. One of her main concerns is that her pronouns can be disrespected and she will be put in cells with women instead of enbies. As if that matters. As if anyone will care. Says she's morally prepared to what's coming, including getting cuffed or shackeled, and be transported God knows where for days without a chance to call anybody.

If she will somehow manage to survive and get what she wants, which I highly doubt, HRT poisoning will kill her. She has serious hormonal and gastrointestinal disorders which already make her life unpleasant, but this will quickly render her disabled at best. The cognitive dissonance coming from her still amazes me, every once in a while I post about health in our friend group, and she fully agrees with the terfiest points you can imagine: how important healthy hormones are, how important it is to have a body that is fully intact, how even "sex appropriate" HRT comes with severe side effects even if people who take them have deficiencies or health issues that lower their natural levels. How hormones mess your mind. How addictive is plastic surgery. And yet, there she is, laughing in the female restroom with me, saying she can't wait to move to Portland and grow a beard.

I can't. What is this for? Why?

Should I already mourn the loss? Like, as in, prepare she will pass away soon, either from this retarded plan or transition? I don't know. I feel sick. I can't do anything about it. It's hard not to become petty and try to doxx the third party I mentioned, I hold personal vendetta against him for reasons. But what good will it do? It won't stop any of this. If I will openly criticise this whole thing, which I know the overwhelming rest of people in this group consider psychotic but don't say anything about it, the third party faggot will turn it to look like I'm just an evil person that doesn't want him to be a "good friend" and "save" this girl from opwessiwe govewmint.

I just. I don't know what else to do, but pray. I can't simply brush it off and distance myself emotionally. It's horrifying. It's. Fucking. Psychotic and demonic. This all feels like a fever dream.

...Would have been a funny lolcow story if it wasn't so horrifying.

 

[You're MDNWU]

I was hoping she will drop this idea. No. She's still set on buying a ticket to Mexico, illegally crossing the border,

Should tell her there's gonna be tranny hunting death squads come Monday when Trump is in office.

Would be better off getting raped in a Mexican jail.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Friend from college decided to become a tranny. I assumed he’d be some kind of fag, nobody hated gays more than him. He was a huge pushover, kind of a meek/kid like nerd. Nintendo, Uber Christian parents, that kind of thing. Was athletic/fit and could have scored lots of poon if he was less spergy. Not terribly happy about it.

Edit: I think I was kind of a shitty friend to him. When I say he was a pushover, I picked on him more than I should have. I can't say for sure but I think I was basically his only IRL friend. We had a mutual friend, but that friend only hung out with him if I was around... A while before he moved I was kind of getting bored of hanging out, but I kept doing it both out of concern for him (because of that) and because I knew you don't just end a friendship because you're not feeling it for a short while. I missed him later. He was too online and the first warning sign was one time when I suckered him (Mr. Religion) into looking at some fucked up Nintendo Rule 34 and I saw him crack a pervy smile. Years later, chatting on Steam, he was all uWu and furry avatar and stuff like that. It wasn't a surprise that he fell into that hole.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Her response is that she knows that jails are horrifying, and that's why she's working out and tries to eat well, to prepare for the most horrific abuse imaginable. One of her main concerns is that her pronouns can be disrespected and she will be put in cells with women instead of enbies.

She sounds so fucking insane. There is no way to make someone this fucked in the head see the error of their ways. Some people are just too retarded to exist. It's tragic but that's what she wants. She is a trans cult member and it looks like she is on some kind of spiritual quest to be "reborn as a man" aka transitioning.

 

[Aunt Carol]

prove she's seeking for political asylum, then later get a job that covers tranny surgeries and go on HRT and chop off her tits.

Couldn't she get a job where she is, save money and then get an on-demand mastectomy from the cheapest place within a budget flight's distance?

I mean, logistically of course she could do that. But it's boring, and work isn't fun. I wonder if the attraction of her idiot plan is that she doesn't actually have to do anything. She can talk big about how she's going to fly off and get herself imprisoned; if she were talking about how she's going to get a job, people would expect her to be making visible daily effort.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

illegally crossing the border, getting into jail and waiting for the aforementioned third party (which actively enables her to do all this shit) to find a lawyer to bail her out and go into the court to prove she's seeking for political asylum, then later get a job that covers tranny surgeries and go on HRT and chop off her tits

this is the most batshit insane thing i've ever read. Maybe rat her out to her family or to american authorities so they get to her first if she is really so mentally deranged as to go through with it.

 

[Black British Nerd]

I've never been trans but I am on the other side of the fence being someone who is probably seen as someone that trooned out by others.

Growing up I was a special needs kid because I could not handwrite etc TLDR I have a rare disability but most onlookers would assume I probably have worse autism than most on the spectrum and tism caused many problems.
In school I had to use a laptop in class before it was normal to do so back when other students couldn't. I was forced to sit next to a teachers aid sometimes (who didn't help and just made me look retarded) go to special needs classes etc.

So my entire life in school was being ignored or bullied, apparently kids called me Hodor behind my back (the retard from game of thrones).
I would only hang out with other special needs type kids and I was the lowest of them. I was legit like lowest or second lowest in social status in my year level.
I'm an autogynephile and throughout my school years I was looking at a lot of gay coded content on youtube etc.

Right when school finished I realized I wanted to be female and I got hit hard with gender dysphoria. I knew I could not pass as a woman though.

I also had a lot of resentment from how I was treated growing up so I actually took the path of manning up and trying to become a cool guy driven by a kind of narcissistic ego.

During this time I was still repressing my AGP as much as I could but would inevitably coom to shit like sissy hypno. This groomed me into thinking I was bisexual despite being a straight guy with autogynephilia.

One day my mom was using my phone and found out I had hooked up with a man and hell broke loose at home. Due to my background of being retarded my parents were quite overprotective and this included not liking me trying to man up and socialize. After the gay thing there was a lot of tension when I would try to get out of the house.

Not to get into all the dramas TLDR I am a crap person and I got my crap genetics from my parents.
With tism making it hard for me to move out of home I eventually got into legal dramas with parents and was nearly homeless living in a share house.

After a year or so away from family I had actually transformed into a cool person at least on the surface. I was sleeping with a new woman about once a month (a cringe thing to say) but it is sort of a metric that I have changed socially to an extreme degree, I was in lots of self improvement type circles and people were quite impressed with me and some thought I would turn into one of those self help grifters you see online.

During this period though I was actually deeply depressed and felt like my life was over due to past legal dramas with family and I was still sleeping with men due to AGP.
TLDR I outed myself as gay and leaned into AGP a bit more. Because I had spent a year or two just trying to meet girls this turned me into a kind of local lolcow in these rightwing self improvement circles. It's mostly my fault obviously but I basically only outed myself to a couple of friends who started spreading stuff. I also had an incel type enemy that were jealous of me. (He thought because I was very tall, white and masculine that somehow everything was easy for me which doesn't even make sense in terms of appearance as I had autism face). I also handled the situation poorly and acted retarded.

Anyways I get off the internet and live a quiet life.
I realized that I was AGP and started trying to spread awareness of AGP.
The aforementioned hater realized who I was when I wrote on 4chan and as I was not on social media thought what I was saying meant I was trans. He and started impersonating me pretending I was trans and did this for years. I caught wind that they were trying to spread I was trans before this.
I suspect he is a troon as well to be this obsessed and he has said sus things.

I still have gender dysphoria to this day I have had it bad for about 9 years its not going to go.
I have been living as a massive loser post social spiraling for about 6.5 years and I am finishing seeing a therapist soon who I started seeing 6 years ago (was a total scam) but leaving him might be changing my mindset.

I am on a new twitter talking about AGP and the other day I made a post explaining how a trans basketball player was AGP to the few twitter followers I have. https://x.com/Manwithagp/status/1878565840213180709

It went viral and I ended up getting hate messages from many trans people which is making me reflect on things a bit right now.

 

[Cuckoman]

to find a lawyer to bail her out

Ain't gonna be no bails to escape from Trump's LGBT death-camps.

 

[Tetopettenson]

This tells me the person you know doesn't have singing as a passion. Most of the stories I hear from singers who transition are that they lament losing their range.

the thing is she was in choirs for a decade and wants to sing as a part of her career to this day. shes convinced that her higher range will all end up translating into lower range somehow. im really scared to see reality hit her, she says shes done her research but how can you not know that testosterone will completely destroy your voice???

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

the thing is she was in choirs for a decade and wants to sing as a part of her career to this day. shes convinced that her higher range will all end up translating into lower range somehow. im really scared to see reality hit her, she says shes done her research but how can you not know that testosterone will completely destroy your voice???

Delusions are powerful beasts that many men have fought and lost countless times.

If you still want to try, point out to her that many real boys loose their ability sing during puberty and it never recovers. Some of it is because they don't bother to relearn to sing but not all. Physical changes can make signing well impossible and there is absolutely nothing she can do about it if she gets bad vocal cords. Also there is nothing she can do preventatively to ensure a good or even decent voice. It's all luck and, if you think she can take it, the odds are not in her favor because biology is bitch and her sex will fight against a good man voice.