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Gerelatha said:
IIRC RDNA3 lacks any sort of dedicated ML hardware so I wouldn’t hedge my bets on it
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It can do tensor operations, just not as fast as NVIDIA since it relies on vector units rather than dedicated tensor units. But it's fast enough that XeSS runs on it using its downgraded DP4a mode. So there really should be no excuse for FSR4 not working.
 
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4090 Chad said:
You’re forgetting the “pay us money” excuse.
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They've tried to make FSR as accessible as possible up to now. Making FSR4 an RNDA4/UDNA+ exclusive would be a change of pace.

If it's technically possible, then RDNA 3 + RDNA 3.5 are likely if only because that's what the iGPUs they are shipping right now use. Those could actually benefit from AI-based FSR at 1080p.
 
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
They've tried to make FSR as accessible as possible up to now. Making FSR4 an RNDA4/UDNA+ exclusive would be a change of pace.

If it's technically possible, then RDNA 3 + RDNA 3.5 are likely if only because that's what the iGPUs they are shipping right now use. Those could actually benefit from AI-based FSR at 1080p.
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The real question is will the next gen mobile APUs have access to the new FSR? That would be huge for the handheld market to have access to a nonshitty upscaler to use to go with improved performance the next gen chip performance.
 
4090 Chad said:
The real question is will the next gen mobile APUs have access to the new FSR? That would be huge for the handheld market to have access to a nonshitty upscaler to use to go with improved performance the next gen chip performance.
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It is extremely likely that mobile is a high priority. From an interview last year:

AMD plans for FSR4 to be fully AI-based — designed to improve quality and maximize power efficiency
Jack Huynh: On the handheld side, my number one priority is battery life. If you look at the ASUS ROG Ally or the Lenovo Legion Go, it’s just that the battery life is not there. I need multiple hours. I need to play a Wukong for three hours, not 60 minutes. This is where frame generation and interpolation [come in], so this is the FSR4 that we're adding.
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The handheld APUs like Z2 Extreme have excised the NPU so far, so FSR4 probably won't leverage that at all. I think RDNA3.5 is a shoo-in, and then RDNA3 if there is no difference between the two on AI cores (IDK).

We don't know very much about next-gen Zen 6 APUs yet, except they might use a 12-core desktop CCD and an I/O die with 16 CUs (I assume RDNA4) on top of an interposer.

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Betonhaus said:
I ended up buying a nvidia 3060 for $75USD
I'll know in a month or so if it works or not.
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That's almost certainly not a 3060. Probably something older with a flashed bios so your PC will show it as a 3060. Best of luck to you though.

The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
If it's fake you might get lucky and still get something worth the money, like a RTX 3060 Mobile 6GB in a PCIe card.
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It's probably a gts 450 or something similar. At least that's what all the scam cards used to be.
 
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The Ugly One said:
Unless you also got to give an NVIDIA 30 series a spin around the same time and realize what you'd missed.
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I got a 3080 from the 3070 so I've used the raytracing and dlss but honestly aside from 2 or 3 games , I don't really care for those features matter that much. DLSS especially in the best cases it looks alright otherwise its ass. Raytracing is worth it when implemented well otherwise it doesn't make sense to turn it on. I cant complain about prices though I didn't spend too much on either card.
 
The updated DLSS model shows a nice improvement with a big reduction to artifacts.

 
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