Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

Baron Reginald said:
To be fair to The Stranger, The fact that guides for dungeons exist should be telling.
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I think guides just exist for dungeons because some tards/women have crippling anxiety and genuinely believe if they happen to brainfart and die to a dungeon boss, they'll immediately be called a whorefaggot which will cause them to have a heart attack and die irl
 
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Baron Reginald said:
To be fair to The Stranger, The fact that guides for dungeons exist should be telling.
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And people still somehow manage to fuck up even after claiming to watch a dungeon guide, of all things.

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I was never able to perform at my best just trying to cold follow class/rotation guides.
When I was still playing, if a newish player to end-game of MMOs mentioned that they were ready to take their first baby steps out of super casual tier, my advice for them was to follow what I did for all the classes I cared about.
1. Get a roulette buddy to stick with you for several weeks
2. Make YoshiP cry and download ACT
3. Engage in friendly competition with your roulette buddy to try and beat each other (if both of you are DPS) or use them as an accountability partner to encourage you to keep getting better as you go
4. Mix up what you que as every once in a while to see how others perform in your role and compare your numbers to them
5. After you've got a good feeling for what works and pumps out decent numbers, THEN go get the flowchart/class guides and use them to see if there's anything you overlooked while naturally learning the class
6. Fix any mistakes you were making and practice in future roulettes
7. Get as much of your rotation as you can in muscle memory and set your UI up so you can see your cooldowns easily
8. Congratulations! You are now ready to stick your feet in savage or attempt the harder solo challenges. If you did steps 3-7 enough times you'll blow 95% of the population of the water at your gear level just from practice alone.

I've found the simple idea of having someone there to ensure you can't slack off even in casual content helps force the learning experiance along much better.
That said, this method is totally incompatible with most people who want results ASAP, but I think the results and feeling of comfort you'll have with your job will speak for themselves.
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Exactly this. I got better at Warrior the same way back in Heavensward because at least one person in my friend group also played Warrior and played it a hell of a lot better than I did (granted, he's a fucking freak autist who excels in literally any video game he touches). Following a rotation guide just helped refine my understanding of what I was doing and see how everything best worked together. It didn't give me some automatic understanding of how to play the Job – I already developed that much from having played the game since 2.1-ish and adapting to the changes from there.
 
Sorry, I assumed the average person was smart enough to understand the fundamentals of a class by seeing it's core components all laid out before them and go from there. Apparently I'm wrong.
 
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The Stranger said:
Sorry, I assumed the average person was smart enough to understand the fundamentals of a class by seeing it's core components all laid out before them and go from there. Apparently I'm wrong.
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You arent completely wrong, but youre having waayyy too much faith. Remember that there are BK crowns that dont know how the game work fundamentally or struggle to explain a class at its basic level despite having them leveled up. The game encourages brain dead gameplay and players have been getting accustomed to want the game to play by itself(see mods). The moment the game challenge them, they either get some 3rd party plugin or they just complain until yoshi cucks out and bend the knee.
 
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Reading a guide and understanding it are two different things for a lot of people and that's been the case for years in the game.

Not to mention some guides haven't been particularly great or well optimized in the past, like the people who usually rushed to be the first to put out a raid guide, or MrHappy's shit in the past where he'll overcomplicate or overexplain mechanics.
 
00R-Gundam said:
Remember that there are BK crowns that dont know how the game work fundamentally or struggle to explain a class at its basic level despite having them leveled up.
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I genuinely want Mentorship removed. It's such a cesspool of retards that actively harms new players tbh. Kill them, remove their retarded fagtags, make them cry about the 1000+ guildhests they farmed because commendations are too hard for them because they refuse to talk or be nice to people or make bad jokes to lighten the mood and be even semi-competant.
They are never helpful, they are always the worst players I hate them, I hate them, I hate them so much!
 
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Gravemind said:
like the people who usually rushed to be the first to put out a raid guide
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Hector moment.

Baron Reginald said:
I genuinely want Mentorship removed. It's such a cesspool of retards that actively harms new players tbh. Kill them, remove their retarded fagtags, make them cry about the 1000+ guildhests they farmed because commendations are too hard
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I also want it removed. Running Mentor Roulette 2000 times is not content and actively makes most people with the crown hate the people they're meant to "teach" because 99% of the time when they are in a duty that has people who actually need mentoring, they snap back with toxicity or don't have the chat box open at all.

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Most mentors are useless. They cant be fucking bothered to answer shit.

"What should i expect from [insert content]?"
>watch a video about it

"Any advice on Tanking?"
>Watch a video, have tank stance on

They give the most fucking braindead answers or tell you to watch a video/read a guide. They are literally useless. Ive gotten more help and guidance from randoms and buddies than them. Maybe mentorship worked in the initial stages of the game, but now it just serves for faggots to flex(it isnt) that they have spent hours and leveled everything as if they are owned respect.
 
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00R-Gundam said:
You arent completely wrong, but youre having waayyy too much faith. Remember that there are BK crowns that dont know how the game work fundamentally or struggle to explain a class at its basic level despite having them leveled up. The game encourages brain dead gameplay and players have been getting accustomed to want the game to play by itself(see mods). The moment the game challenge them, they either get some 3rd party plugin or they just complain until yoshi cucks out and bend the knee.
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Sure, but then don't complain when someone uses whatever Picto ability y'all were talking about at the wrong time if you also acknowledge the game itself actively discourages improving without using third party tools
 
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00R-Gundam said:
"What should i expect from [insert content]?"
>watch a video about it

"Any advice on Tanking?"
>Watch a video, have tank stance on
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You shouldn't expect someone to know literally everything about the game unless it's me you're talking about. I'd actually post a video instead of saying "look it up lol" though.
 
Tari said:
You shouldn't expect someone to know literally everything about the game unless it's me you're talking about. I'd actually post a video instead of saying "look it up lol" though.
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I dunno, I can explain most things I actually have experience in just fine. I would recommend a video or a guide as supplementary to that if just hearing about it and practicing it aren't enough to fill in the gaps for the individual.
 
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The Stranger said:
Sorry, I assumed the average person was smart enough to understand the fundamentals of a class by seeing it's core components all laid out before them and go from there. Apparently I'm wrong.
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You're severely underestimating how retarded a lot of the people who play this game are and that everyone learns differently and at varying degrees of intelligence.
Some people can instantly pick up how everything works just from looking at a jpeg of job icons. Some need you to literally hold their hand and treat them like an exceptional idiot.

Both you and Grave are right, your methods apply to both.
 
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I honestly dont get what they are fighting about, both are saying people are retarded, but disagreeing on what flavour of retarded they are?
 
Baron Reginald said:
I honestly dont get what they are fighting about, both are saying people are retarded, but disagreeing on what flavour of retarded they are?
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They're arguing about which method of learning and improving is better for general players playing the game. The fact is that they're both right. It's just that everyone is different in terms of how they want to learn or how they can better understand.

Take me for example. I always enjoy the discovery of a job, playing around with it and getting a feel for it myself. It's always extremely rewarding when I'm able to master a job using my own noggin. I could look at guides or watch videos or have one of my very autistic friends explain it to me, but it's not as fun.
On the other end, another person may prefer to study the job with a magnifying glass by using carefully constructed by guides made by people who've mastered the job themselves. It's really down to the individual and what they either find more fun and rewarding, or what they can better understand and feel is more efficient for them.

The average player is a moron and this opens another can of worms of whether people are to blame for being too stupid or if the game should be blamed for not doing a good enough job teaching them.
 
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Had to revert back to windows 10 because my PC got updated without my consent during some POTD.
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