Mega Rad Gun Thread

[WhoBusTank69]

What do you guys think about cheapo 1911s I know rock island is the best in a budget but I was looking at the tisas tanker model. My understanding is if you stick with 45acp there shouldn't be any issues since the 1911 was designed for a semi rimmed cartridge

Rock Island functions. Tisas Is OK. Springfield gets their incomplete frames from Tisas but quality is generally considered a step up and I think they're a good baseline for "average". Do not buy Kimber.

 

[Devious Dave]

Rock Island functions. Tisas Is OK. Springfield gets their incomplete frames from Tisas but quality is generally considered a step up and I think they're a good baseline for "average". Do not buy Kimber.

I know tisas is turk shit but I know the 1911 Is a pretty simple design sorta so I figured maybe they'd at least run ok as long as you stick with what it was designed for

 

[WhoBusTank69]

the 1911 Is a pretty simple design sorta

I wish. If an enterprising fellow combined the improvements of the Hi-Power's frame and the barrel lockup of the Glock while keeping the 1911's appearance I would buy it in a heartbeat.

maybe they'd at least run ok as long as you stick with what it was designed for

Doesn't really matter, the only changes between calibers are the size of the ejector, extractor, firing pin, and the slide's breechface. The receiver is the same regardless.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I think I might have stumbled upon the original photo that inspired all the Ruger Standard/NT-4 builds I've disproportionately seen over the years.

IIRC, that gun was made to kill guard dogs that the Afghans would put around their hideouts as a early warning system.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Shotgunning drones on the wing:

I wonder what choke he's using lol.

 

[Adolf Hulkler]

Why are suppressors so expensive in america?
Here theyre pretty damn cheap.

Shotgunning drones on the wing:
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I wonder what choke he's using lol.

Biggest gripe i have with using shotguns as drone defense is their shitty range.
That could be remedied by using tungsten ammo however, but theyre fucking expensive.
Even then you just might be in the shrapel range, theres a few videos where a zigger managed to shoot an FPV, which blows up, peppering the shooter with shrapnel as could be seen from the impacts on the ground.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Why are suppressors so expensive in america?
Here theyre pretty damn cheap.


Biggest gripe i have with using shotguns as drone defense is their shitty range.
That could be remedied by using tungsten ammo however, but theyre fucking expensive.
Even then you just might be in the shrapel range, theres a few videos where a zigger managed to shoot an FPV, which blows up, peppering the shooter with shrapnel as could be seen from the impacts on the ground.

10 gauge will get you to 60 yards with the right loads. recoil is no worse than 12 gauge 3 1/2 inch loads.

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

Why are suppressors so expensive in america?
Here theyre pretty damn cheap.

Because there's a mandatory $200 tax and a bunch of other bullshit because nearly 100 years ago they decided to make them part of the NFA and despite popular myth about "poaching during the Great depression" and other such reasons at the time, the fact is silencers were never talked about in proceedings as to why they were added to this gun control bill. That said it's not just the $200 tax. Despite the NFA companies are pushing the boundaries of silencer development with sophisticated 3d printing making some genuinely worth the price. There are a lot of good ones for $500 too. And before you get on me about saying silencer and not suppressor, talk to Maxim. At the time of the bill they were called silencers

 

[An Account]

Because there's a mandatory $200 tax and a bunch of other bullshit because nearly 100 years ago they decided to make them part of the NFA and despite popular myth about "poaching during the Great depression" and other such reasons at the time, the fact is silencers were never talked about in proceedings as to why they were added to this gun control bill. That said it's not just the $200 tax. Despite the NFA companies are pushing the boundaries of silencer development with sophisticated 3d printing making some genuinely worth the price. There are a lot of good ones for $500 too. And before you get on me about saying silencer and not suppressor, talk to Maxim. At the time of the bill they were called silencers

“Erm, it’s only a silencer if it was grown in the SilencerCo valley. Otherwise what you have is a sparkling suppressor.”

 

[♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️]

Kimbers are supposed to be good and you can get one for a lot less than 2500 made by actual americans

appropriately parameterized gunbroker search: https://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Pistols/search?PageSize=24&Sort=13&View=1&Ch-manufacturerName=Kimber&Ch-Caliber=.45 ACP

The only places I've seen Kimbers sold are Walmart so I had assumed they were low-quality mass-manufactured cheapos, but apparently the USMC utilized the "Kimber Desert Warrior" at some point during the GWOT? Can anybody speak to that and the quality of that particular model?

I'm starting to veer away from the whole youth mentality of "I'm gonna make my guns super-customized and unique and easily identifiable and badass looking" and instead more towards the lines of "I just want something that's quality and generally mil-spec that functions in harsh extreme cold conditions and functions well with very easily replaceable parts".

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Why are suppressors so expensive in america?
Here theyre pretty damn cheap.

Ours are required to be registered so they're intended to last as long as physically possible. Can't just go to the sporting goods store and walk out with one the same day.

"I just want something that's quality and generally mil-spec that functions in harsh extreme cold conditions and functions well with very easily replaceable parts".

If you want effective to the point of boredom, Glock 17. It's so boring that it's the easiest answer.

 

[♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️]

If you want effective to the point of boredom, Glock 17. It's so boring that it's the easiest answer.

Sorry, but nothing less than a .45's gonna suffice. Also being LDS it would probably get my Temple Recommend revoked if I didn't carry fellow church member John Moses Browning's handiwork.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

A well oiled beretta is a happy beretta.

1000 rounds through the gts, I'm gonna say it. The frame decocker is much nicer then on the slide. Other then that, it's a 92 with nicer sights and a skeltonized hammer out of the box. Very happy with it.

I feel like I'm in the minority when I say Beretta coating the controls in polymer is a good idea. It might mess with the stainless look on the new Inox but high-contact surfaces being treated like that is a novel concept.

Sorry, but nothing less than a .45's gonna suffice.

Glock 21.
But if you're dead set on a 1911 forever gun, Wilson Combat. Bill knows his shit, and even after he left his company does good work no matter what gun it is.

 

[Legato]

The only places I've seen Kimbers sold are Walmart so I had assumed they were low-quality mass-manufactured cheapos, but apparently the USMC utilized the "Kimber Desert Warrior" at some point during the GWOT? Can anybody speak to that and the quality of that particular model?

I'm starting to veer away from the whole youth mentality of "I'm gonna make my guns super-customized and unique and easily identifiable and badass looking" and instead more towards the lines of "I just want something that's quality and generally mil-spec that functions in harsh extreme cold conditions and functions well with very easily replaceable parts".

I have a Kimber ultra carry II that I purchased in the 90's and it has been super reliable. it was my carry gun for some time. I would trust it with my life and .45 is a fun round.

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

Shotgunning drones on the wing:
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I wonder what choke he's using lol.

I've always wondered if it'd be better to use a shorter shotgun for drone defense. Modern combat sights/ghost ring sights are still pretty accurate even with a shorter sight radius, and you can always use a tighter choke anyway if you're concerned with spread.

That could be remedied by using tungsten ammo however, but theyre fucking expensive.

+P depleted uranium shot

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

Ours are required to be registered so they're intended to last as long as physically possible. Can't just go to the sporting goods store and walk out with one the same day.

At least with the new ATF processing time it is possible to get it approved within hours. Seems to be a few days now though. Beats upwards of a year it was before.

 

[DocAwe]

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Sorry, but nothing less than a .45's gonna suffice. Also being LDS it would probably get my Temple Recommend revoked if I didn't carry fellow church member John Moses Browning's handiwork.

View attachment 6960059

Sorry, but nothing less than a .45's gonna suffice. Also being LDS it would probably get my Temple Recommend revoked if I didn't carry fellow church member John Moses Browning's handiwork.

 

[Club Sandwich]

The only places I've seen Kimbers sold are Walmart so I had assumed they were low-quality mass-manufactured cheapos, but apparently the USMC utilized the "Kimber Desert Warrior" at some point during the GWOT? Can anybody speak to that and the quality of that particular model?

Kimber nose dived in quality around 2013 or so, maybe a little beforehand depending on model. they were struggling with commercial and contract sales volume for what was a relatively small shop and both expanded as well as started loosening QC on MIM and cast parts just to get product shipped. Over time, getting very poor machine work done in the interest of speed and profit. they evened out around 2017 or 2018 and have been kinda mediocre since then with worse finish than old big banner Mauser rifles (big oof) and sometimes sloppy fitting.

the Kimber Desert Warrior is semi-custom and is built by a select few people at Kimber specifically for the contract and some limited commercial sales of overruns. i have old Yonkers Kimbers and they're fantastic pieces for the money asked (compared to an Ed Brown or Les Baer where quality is still better, but not at the prices Kimber offered). Kimber in the best of times was a cheaper Wilson Combat that actually answered the phone.

 

[WelperHelper99]

No.

Frankly I have 0 idea where you can even find a .22 pistol at that price these days.

You want a stupid cheap handgun? Go get a police trade in. That will be a gun worth shooting and worth keeping for around $300-$400

Sportsmans outdoors has a nice selection right now

I mean have you seen those 22 revolvers at Sportsmans? They're single action, but cheap as fuck. I don't think you'd want to keep it forever though lol.

Swedish belt fed BAR conversion

Just get a FN MAG at that point lmao, its what a belt fed BAR is at the end of the day.

 

[BikeLock]

Why are suppressors so expensive in america?

We don't buy disposable suppressors because each one is serialized and comes with a $200 tax stamp.

The only thing the Euros got right about firearms is that suppressors are safety devices, not assassin tools (Thanks, again, hollywood jews, you fucked us on switchblades, balisongs, and stillettos, too).