GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

I was lucky enough to get a 6650xt for 200 USD. It works great at 1080p for my linux machine. Not sure about newer games, but I can run Lost Judgement at max settings no problem.
 
I'm trying to see if I can figure out what is the issue with the B580 + Ryzen combo and have been looking to see if there are known bugs and issues with AMD's PCIe firmware/chipsets. Some things I found:

X670E has a power management bug causing it to slow down to PCIe 1 levels:

B550 and X570 (Ryzen 5000 gen, I think) bug with PCIe 4 clobbering USB &NVMe speeds:

SMA (what AMD calls resizable BAR) performance problems on PCI 3 mobo:

None of this proves definitively why Battlemage cards perform poorly on 5000 series Ryzens, but it's suggestive.
 
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I’ve been holding off upgrading my Ryzen 3600/1660 TI build, hoping card prices would drop with the latest releases, but everything’s seemingly the exact same.

Worse though, it’d be an upgrade for upgrade’s sake. I play no games other than Rust (love/hate relationship at this point) and the occasional Fusion360.
 
Miller said:
Do people really fall for the gayming laptop meme?
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For Thirdies/noobs, yes. There is a reason, god bless me for uttering this heresy, MSI laptops have still persisted to this day.
 
Since this is also "Enthusiast Hardware" I'm going to mention I finally found my "white whale".
I have a system with 2 x16 slots(well, x16 and x4) I have GPUs in. But only 2.5Gbit motherboard Ethernet.
It also has x1 PCIe 4.0 ports which are 16GT/sec and would be fine for 10Gbit. But there weren't any x1 cards. Now a Chinese vendor has one. "IOCREST PCIe 4.0 x1 10GbE NIC". Marvell Aquantia AQC113 chipset. We'll see how it goes.
 
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Since this is also "Enthusiast Hardware" I'm going to mention I finally found my "white whale".
I have a system with 2 x16 slots(well, x16 and x4) I have GPUs in. But only 2.5Gbit motherboard Ethernet.
It also has x1 PCIe 4.0 ports which are 16GT/sec and would be fine for 10Gbit. But there weren't any x1 cards. Now a Chinese vendor has one. "IOCREST PCIe 4.0 x1 10GbE NIC". Marvell Aquantia AQC113 chipset. We'll see how it goes.
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Does your computer have a wifi card slot? they usually have higher bandwidth then a x1 slot and they do make ethernet port adaptors.
 
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Does your computer have a wifi card slot? they usually have higher bandwidth then a x1 slot and they do make ethernet port adaptors.
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They certainly exist. But 10G requires a giant heatsink and I don't think any MB I have would fit that in the WiFi slot. And they're even too tall to use in the normal M.2 slot as they'd hit one of the GPUs. Thus why this one is a "white whale".
And PCIe 4.0 will be fine until I upgrade to 100G.
 
You're unlikely to find a 10G NIC that uses PCIe4. 10G was mostly widely adopted during the PCIe2 through PCIe3 era, so that's the tech they all use (either 2x8 or 3x4). By the time we got PCIe4 enterprises were already well into replacing their 10G setups with 25/50G, and there was no market justification to develop new 10G NICs just so you could use PCIe4x2 (x2 is really rare) instead.

If you want to add 10GbE to a computer that doesn't have an appropriate slot for either a full card or an M.2, your best option is Thunderbolt adapters. (Thunderbolt is compatible with USB4)
 
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Susanna said:
You're unlikely to find a 10G NIC that uses PCIe4. 10G was mostly widely adopted during the PCIe2 through PCIe3 era, so that's the tech they all use (either 2x8 or 3x4). By the time we got PCIe4 enterprises were already well into replacing their 10G setups with 25/50G, and there was no market justification to develop new 10G NICs just so you could use PCIe4x2 (x2 is really rare) instead.

If you want to add 10GbE to a computer that doesn't have an appropriate slot for either a full card or an M.2, your best option is Thunderbolt adapters.
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Or I could buy the one I named and try it out.
 
davids877 said:
Or I could buy the one I named and try it out.
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That's an Aquantia though. They have recovery issues, if the driver sends it into low-power mode it doesn't always recover, and you'll need to reboot.
 
Fcret said:
I dunno if this has been discussed yet, but - NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX 5070 Ti AIB Models Listed By MicroCenter; Prices Going As High As $1,000+ With Only One Model At MSRP

What's wild to me is that we had a solid couple months or so of 4080 Supers sitting unsold on shelves for like $900 and people turned their noses up at them. Meanwhile it's likely that the 5070 Ti is going to sell out even at $1200.

Basically - suffah waitfags
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I was thinking about upgrading one system I have with a 3060 Ti to something newer with more VRAM. Or upgrading a different system and juggling cards. But all the prices are retarded. Even used 4060 Ti's are ridiculous.
 
davids877 said:
Since this is also "Enthusiast Hardware" I'm going to mention I finally found my "white whale".
I have a system with 2 x16 slots(well, x16 and x4) I have GPUs in. But only 2.5Gbit motherboard Ethernet.
It also has x1 PCIe 4.0 ports which are 16GT/sec and would be fine for 10Gbit. But there weren't any x1 cards. Now a Chinese vendor has one. "IOCREST PCIe 4.0 x1 10GbE NIC". Marvell Aquantia AQC113 chipset. We'll see how it goes.
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https://www.owc.com/solutions/10g-ethernet-pcie-network-adapter

I have one of these in a gen4 x1 slot and it works fine. Never tested it for long sustained high speeds, but stuff moves across the LAN at the stated rate.
 
Drael said:
https://www.owc.com/solutions/10g-ethernet-pcie-network-adapter

I have one of these in a gen4 x1 slot and it works fine. Never tested it for long sustained high speeds, but stuff moves across the LAN at the stated rate.
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I assume you have x1 slots without a back so they can take the wider connector. My MB can't take those even if I modified the slot since one has the CMOS battery and another has a capacitor behind it. But it's the same chipset so hopefully it bodes well for the one I ordered.
 
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I assume you have x1 slots without a back so they can take the wider connector. My MB can't take those even if I modified the slot since one has the CMOS battery and another has a capacitor behind it. But it's the same chipset so hopefully it bodes well for the one I ordered.
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It's an open back yes.
Out of curiosity, I'm wondering if you're in a similar situation I was with one of my builds, where the 2.5gb port is one of the cursed Intel chipsets. That was the reason I changed the one computer over to that NIC.
 
Drael said:
It's an open back yes.
Out of curiosity, I'm wondering if you're in a similar situation I was with one of my builds, where the 2.5gb port is one of the cursed Intel chipsets. That was the reason I changed the one computer over to that NIC.
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No, I just really like 10Gig.
This system gets some AI use which means slinging giant checkpoints to it from time to time from my file server but I don't have enough local storage to keep them there all the time.
 
Did AMD just "win" the price contest by default?
>5070/ti = $900-$1000
>9070/XT = $750-$900
 
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