Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Taser Confetti]

I do like the idea of 10mm for a PCC, especially if it's loaded with full power rounds. For a little foldy boi that can be a companion for road trips or small pest control on a farm/ranch I could see it being better than even an SBR.

What’s your definition of small pests? In my mind that’s referring to stuff like foxes and raccoons that can be dealt with by a .22 Magnum.

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

You can get screwdrivers like this, or what I reccommend is to get a screwdriver set with a bunch of hollow ground bits, as that allows you far more options.

To add to this, if you're looking for such a set that is very self-contained and will work for 95% of screws you'll encounter, Klein makes a great 13-bit driver that can be had all day long for $20-30. Hollow-ground flathead bits and also covers Philips, torx and even square/Robertson bits - all packed into the butt.

 

[Dean Pentel]

What’s your definition of small pests? In my mind that’s referring to stuff like foxes and raccoons that can be dealt with by a .22 Magnum.

Those (although I very much dislike killing foxes and won't unless there's absolutely no alternative), coyotes, armadillos, and feral pigs. I recognize feral pigs aren't small pests but you get what I'm saying.

Speaking of .22 WMR, I wish I'd been smart enough to jump on some Marlin 883s and 983s in stainless when I saw them on the market back in the day. Heck, even one of their XT-22s in stainless with a tube mag would be fine. I'm a big fan of Marlin's microgroove barrels.

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

Smith & Wesson has beaten KelTec to the punch and officially announced their 10mm foldygun first.
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Honestly the best trail gun would be a 10mm handgun with some sort of holsterable flux raider deployable stock type chassis system.

 

[Baked Al-Aqsa]

Does anybody own one of these? Can someone explain to me what the hell "triple action" is or why you would want it over the double or single action this service handgun already has? I must have watched a dozen videos on this gun and while people soyjak over how good le triple action is, nobody can explain why it's such a good idea.... that literally no other pistol in existence has this triple action crap.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Can someone explain to me what the hell "triple action" is or why you would want it over the double or single action this service handgun already has?

It's something that someone made that didn't break after being put into execution, also their national pride.

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

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Does anybody own one of these? Can someone explain to me what the hell "triple action" is or why you would want it over the double or single action this service handgun already has? I must have watched a dozen videos on this gun and while people soyjak over how good le triple action is, nobody can explain why it's such a good idea.... that literally no other pistol in existence has this triple action crap.

Interesting. So it just keeps the main spring compressed, but allows the hammer to be down safely. I guess the big upside is when you're issuing DA/SA guns to a lot of conscripts (South Korea, it's a Daewoo) it allows the hammer to be safe and down, but without the heavy long DA pull which a lot of shooters struggle with accuracy on. A best of both worlds supposedly. Interestingly a company still makes a gun doing this for retard prices

https://lionheartindustries.com/

 

[Club Sandwich]

Does anybody own one of these?

i still have one when they were imported for a short time as surplus K5's in the 90's. good pistols. the triple action is functionally a trigger variation between a single action short travel that releases the hammer and double action long travel that both cocks and releases the hammer. there is a transfer lever that interacts with the hammer on a false sear shelf to keep the hammer spring compressed while allowing the trigger and hammer to fully travel forward while maintaining a relatively light trigger pull. it feels sort of like like a primitive DAK or LEM trigger in some ways and some people prefer a long travel with a lighter pull than a typical DAO, but also do not want a cocked hammer at all times.

 

[SAR545]

its been a while kiwifrens, got the MR1 chopped down to proper RX4 storm specs.

 

[BananaHand]

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Does anybody own one of these? Can someone explain to me what the hell "triple action" is or why you would want it over the double or single action this service handgun already has? I must have watched a dozen videos on this gun and while people soyjak over how good le triple action is, nobody can explain why it's such a good idea.... that literally no other pistol in existence has this triple action crap.

Triple action, also known as fast action allows a lighter trigger pull weight of a single action trigger with the length of it as a double action trigger. It's where the hammer is cocked back, like in single-action mode, yet bumped forward in single action mode. Essentially it functions the same as having it in a decocker mode, and prevents troops from letting the hammer forward and NDing it when decocking it manually (a la the TT-33, 1911), as the previous ROK pistol in service is a M1911A1 and having similar problems of troops NDing into clearing barrels when decocking like the Americans.

More modern pistols with decockers took over, or that the original Daewoo pistols were not built with good quality control (some NRA publications claim that the accuracy is poor and many pistols have bad to even non-existant rifling).

In other militaries the Beretta 92 and the Sig 22X series pistols were higher quality and had better quality control, and Beretta would love to have licensed production or sell Italian and American pistols. South Korea wanted to make their own indigenous designs, and completely avoid having to deal with contracts, royalties, and fees associated with licensed production, they got burned by Colt in the domestic production of the M16A1 and Colt wanted steep and expensive fees and the Koreans didn't want to continue paying them.

Lionheart makes more modern triple-action pistols, initially made in Korea and now made in America. They are quite expensive though, but at least they don't share the QC issues as the legacy Daewoo ones.

 

[Baked Al-Aqsa]

I suppose I have a little bit more insight now: The gooks wanted to make something distinct just to not not owe Westerners money, whether or not the idea was good.

TO BE FAIR, this worked out pretty well with the K2. If I had to make a distinct indigenous designed service rifle using soviet ideas and colt machinery that was already purchased, the K2 would be a great thing to make, and it so happens to be a great rifle in its own right (for its time anyway).

its been a while kiwifrens, got the MR1 chopped down to proper RX4 storm specs.

Oh man. One of my first rifles was a Benelli MR1. I sort of wish I didn't sell it? But then again, I couldn't find accessories for it and for some reason mine just wouldn't zero properly.
Godspeed you weird wops. I wish you guys designed weird cool guns just to make weird cool guns again.

 

[The Dude]

i still have one when they were imported for a short time as surplus K5's in the 90's. good pistols. the triple action is functionally a trigger variation between a single action short travel that releases the hammer and double action long travel that both cocks and releases the hammer. there is a transfer lever that interacts with the hammer on a false sear shelf to keep the hammer spring compressed while allowing the trigger and hammer to fully travel forward while maintaining a relatively light trigger pull. it feels sort of like like a primitive DAK or LEM trigger in some ways and some people prefer a long travel with a lighter pull than a typical DAO, but also do not want a cocked hammer at all times.

Back in the early Aughts FN had a variant of the High Power that had a similar system. Once cocked in single action the user could then push the hammer back towards the firing pin, but stop short of coming into contact with it and locking into position to prevent firing if dropped. When the user pulled the trigger it would move the hammer back like a double action, but the trigger pull was MUCH lighter due to the main spring already being under load. All the trigger pull was doing was moving the hammer itself and tripping the sere.

 

[BikeLock]

i still have one when they were imported for a short time as surplus K5's in the 90's. good pistols. the triple action is functionally a trigger variation between a single action short travel that releases the hammer and double action long travel that both cocks and releases the hammer. there is a transfer lever that interacts with the hammer on a false sear shelf to keep the hammer spring compressed while allowing the trigger and hammer to fully travel forward while maintaining a relatively light trigger pull. it feels sort of like like a primitive DAK or LEM trigger in some ways and some people prefer a long travel with a lighter pull than a typical DAO, but also do not want a cocked hammer at all times.

As an HK LEM trigger enjoyer, it sounds exactly like how the LEM trigger works. The hammer is in two pieces, with a cocking piece of sorts that holds the power of the mainspring back, engaged with a sear, allowing the rest of the hammer to go back at rest on the hammer latch. To fire the trigger bar moves the hammer back to the engagement point, at which time the cocking piece is released by the sear, driving the hammer into the firing pin.

It sounds more convoluted than it is.

 

[Among Us Gaming]

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Does anybody own one of these? Can someone explain to me what the hell "triple action" is or why you would want it over the double or single action this service handgun already has? I must have watched a dozen videos on this gun and while people soyjak over how good le triple action is, nobody can explain why it's such a good idea.... that literally no other pistol in existence has this triple action crap.

Why?
You can have an SA/DA, with the hammer down, and still have the trigger pull weight of the gun in SA.
Also an important note about these guns, they use and are fully compatible with Smith and Wesson 59 series magazines, so mags are available and affordable.

 

[Bassomatic]

What’s your definition of small pests?

Future doctors under 5 foot tall.

Ugh been so busy I still haven't shot my new gun. That was my v day gift

 

[Romulus augustulus]

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Does anybody own one of these? Can someone explain to me what the hell "triple action" is or why you would want it over the double or single action this service handgun already has? I must have watched a dozen videos on this gun and while people soyjak over how good le triple action is, nobody can explain why it's such a good idea.... that literally no other pistol in existence has this triple action crap.

There was a 1911 and Hi-power mod that allowed the hammer to be down while cocked and locked. it would only spring backwards to the firing position when the safety was flicked off. was supposed to make it impossible for the gun to fire if the hammer sears failed. can't go off half cocked if its not cocked (but it is). also makes it less snag prone and possibly more comfortable to carry. "Fast Safety System"

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

The Glock 19/17 fit "bitch" hands just fine, and for that matter, new Beretta 92's with the "Vertec" grip (straight) fit "bitch hands" very well, too, especially if you use the trigger that was also designed with it that has a shorter reach.

If we want to be "old school" about it, the Hi-Power grip also tends to fit "bitch hands", too, along with the CZ75.

Now that I think about it, the original Beretta 92 grip is fatter than a USP 45, and about as fat as my FNX, which kinda makes them an outlier for 9mm pistols, imho.

Glocks have horrific ergos

the S&W M&P line, derived from the Sigma more or less, is very popular and are about $100 cheaper for the LE package compared to the Glock blue label and comparable for price at retail (S&W M&P 9mm full size is around $520, and a Glock 17 is closer to $550). the CZ-USA P10 has been made in the US for quite a while (import ones say made in Czech Republic and have a Kansas City rollmark) and is in the $400 range.

people do buy them, and they're often cheaper as well or very similar in price with CZ P10 having a price advantage. they do not have mind share though, as you demonstrate. also it's quite easier to find Glock LEO trade ins than the M&P which dump the price significantly if you want to include used guns.

The M&P is usually sold for a good deal less than MSRP all day online. Not so much for Glocks.

there's been some internal messages to distributors and service centers. i can't comment on specifics, but i will say that the P10 will hit $350 or under about a month prior to release of the new model. same mag compatibility though high cap mags might need a base plate swap.

Sweet now if CZ would just make a P10 with a safety....

Thank God. Also the 17 rounders use the same spring as the 15s which I just decided not to mess with them much. It would be nice if the new model has 17 flush fit. The P10 for $350 optics ready is an insane deal. The trigger to me is perfect for a carry. No grit. Solid wall. Not much travel. Not too light. Love it

CZ makes some slept on pistols.

I never understood the whole Glock clone market, myself. Without diving dick first into politics, the Glock 80% kits were always going to sell like crazy for 101 reasons. Everybody else trying to build a better mousetrap or a slightly cheaper mousetrap imho never made it worth the $$$ instead of just buying a real Glock with decades of factory based fine tuning since day 1. I find everything they aesthetically did after Gen 2 pretty pointless. Besides a rail for light and ambi mag release for the lefties nothing really was accomplished imho. Adjustable backstrap? Really? Adding another part to a utilitarian service pistol? Yeah, no thanks

Because the Glock clones let you have a Glock with better ergos and features from the factory for the same or less money.

daggers don't shoot on their own : )

PSA supremacy at it again

Also, the US military is still buying M4s

https://soldiersystems.net/2025/03/14/us-army-issues-intent-to-sole-source-procurement-of-m4-m4a1-carbines-from-colt/

I cannot WAIT for the M7 to get shit canned

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

Sweet now if CZ would just make a P10 with a safety....

Ah c'mon. Well the next one is supposed to be a FCU so maybe they'd have an option. The Czech military replaced their shadows with P10's I wonder if theirs have safeties

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Sweet now if CZ would just make a P10 with a safety....

I have to ask...

Why? It's a striker gun with a trigger dingus.

 

[The Dude]

There was a 1911 and Hi-power mod that allowed the hammer to be down while cocked and locked. it would only spring backwards to the firing position when the safety was flicked off. was supposed to make it impossible for the gun to fire if the hammer sears failed. can't go off half cocked if its not cocked (but it is). also makes it less snag prone and possibly more comfortable to carry. "Fast Safety System"

That might have been what I was talking about. I only ever saw one HP with it and it was over twenty years ago, and admittedly my longterm memory has dulled in my old age. I don't think FN offered that variant for very long.