Assassin's Creed thread

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Checkmate, chuds, Assassin's Creed engaged one morbillion players now. I especially liked it when Assassin's Creed said it's assassin time then creeded all over some guys.

I think Assassin's Creed is a pretty cool guy. He kills Templars and doesn't afraid of anything.

 

[Rebel Wilson]

I liked it when he wore american flag shorts and fought rocky balboa

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

The fact is, the numbers we can actually see (steam players), look like a flop, and that's all there is.

Is that actually true though? According to Forbes it's not:

Assassin’s Creed Shadows Steam Numbers – This is being cited more than anything else and is probably the figure that needs the most context. This weekend, Shadows inched past Odyssey with 64,000 concurrent players to its 62,000 over six years ago. So that makes it the best Steam-performing AC game. Valhalla is not an appropriate comparison point, as its 15,000 peak reflects a game that did not launch on Steam until well after its PC release.

Steam Comparisons – Shadows has come in far below a number of other games on Steam that performed somewhat-to-wildly better. But again, context. Some amount of PC players are on the Ubisoft launcher. Some games being compared are cheaper or even free. It’s likely that AC skews more heavily toward a console playerbase than most. And the overall point here is how Shadows has performed not compared to other games, but in the context of the series. It’s better than Odyssey. Odyssey is not considered a failure. So why would Shadows be with on a higher number? That doesn’t follow.

Now, maybe they're shilling or lying or something and I'm simply ignorant, but this seems logical and accurate, it's surprisingly neutral in tone and actually worth a read imo. Regardless, I like their conclusion, at least the last line anyway:

Conclusion - It would seem that initially, Shadows is a hit somewhere between Odyssey and Valhalla, and player reception is generally positive, on par or even above critics. Its longer term prospects are unknown, though it may not, or probably won’t reach Valhalla’s heights. The future of Ubisoft itself continues to look pretty grim.

 

[Brain Power]

lol, lmao even
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How do you do, fellow kids?

That's the same company that charged you over 100 dollars for a shitty polyester shirt (and got insta consoomed by redditors) because "OMG it's just like teh shirt my fav chara wears in game, but with a tacky stamp and such a kweerkee brand name in the back!" in a previous collab.

 

[sneedem&feedem]

Is that actually true though? According to Forbes it's not:

Now, maybe they're shilling or lying or something and I'm simply ignorant, but this seems logical and accurate, it's surprisingly neutral in tone and actually worth a read imo. Regardless, I like their conclusion, at least the last line anyway:

No, you're not ignorant, you're just a fucking retard for listening to a single thing Paul Tassi has to say. There is no "maybe he's shilling," yes, he is shilling like the good little kiss ass he is.





He literally already got called out in this very thread.

Paul Tassi making a Forbes clickbait article on how the Assassin's Creed controversy is "nothing".
(Archived Article)
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[Get the rope Macaulay!]

We also got a longer section in Syndicate where we got to play as Lydia Frye (Jacob's granddaughter) during WW2 as she takes down German spy bases throughout London like in the Tower Bridge.

that was ww1,

That would be great. I loved the way GTA V used character switching and having the characters be on opposite sides of it would be fascinating.

there have been multiple attempts at that and unless you "on-rails" that aspect its hard to impossible for some reason. like thats the obvious use case for the GTA v style character switching and in the last dozen years not a single game studio has figured out how to do it.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

No, you're not ignorant, you're just a fucking retard for listening to a single thing Paul Tassi has to say. There is no "maybe he's shilling," yes, he is shilling like the good little kiss ass he is.

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He literally already got called out in this very thread.

I hope he's crucified alongside every other liberal, but a broken clock is right twice a day, I'd like to know specifically why what he's saying is wrong, like he's just straight up making up Steam numbers for in-series comparison, or being deceptive with real numbers (how?), or what?

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

SmashJT being a dumb grifter again. Asmongold laughed at Yasuke Similator being higher than ACS on the twitch page so SmashJT has to make an 11 minute video about it claiming that the game was more popular.
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The reality is, it was just someone obviously viewbotting it for the lulz.

https://twitchtracker.com/games/1901448683

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Now, maybe they're shilling or lying

Ohhhhh man. Bad enough you're trusting these people blindly but then you link a Paul Tassi Article.
Do you source your news from Jayson Blair too?

 

[p1138]

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Ohhhhh man. Bad enough you're trusting these people blindly but then you link a Paul Tassi Article.
Do you source your news from Jayson Blair too?

What? I didn't link, post, or do anything regarding Paul Tassi. I called out SmashJT for being an idiot and not taking 2 seconds to check something about Yasuke Simulator.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

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Ohhhhh man. Bad enough you're trusting these people blindly but then you link a Paul Tassi Article.
Do you source your news from Jayson Blair too?

I thought I hated journoscum enough, guess you really can't hate them enough.

What? I didn't link, post, or do anything regarding Paul Tassi. I called out SmashJT for being an idiot and not taking 2 seconds to check something about Yasuke Simulator.

He's talking about me.

 

[Edgy But Dull]

I hope he's crucified alongside every other liberal, but a broken clock is right twice a day, I'd like to know specifically why what he's saying is wrong, like he's just straight up making up Steam numbers for in-series comparison, or being deceptive with real numbers (how?), or what?

>argues that Shadows hit a slightly higher peak concurrent player count on Steam than Odyssey (64k to 62k) and Odyssey was not a failure, thus Shadows is not a failure
>ignores budgets hilariously ballooning out of control in the past decade
>doesn't mention the multiple delays, which added even more development costs onto that shitpile of cash they burned
>doesn't mention Odyssey started development after Syndicate (2015), so it was only 3 years of dev costs while Shadows has been in development since Odyssey, nearly 7 years
>glosses over the 2 hours of credits showcasing that not only was the dev time much longer, the amount of devs working on this was astronomical, hinting at ridiculous dev costs
>doesn't mention that Odyssey also launched on the Nintendo console (the Switch) while Shadows didn't while said Nintendo console is the biggest console at the moment
>doesn't mention that their Ubisoft+ subscription service is available on consoles too, so console sales are likely hamstrung by that as well
>doesn't mention that Ubisoft+ launched in 2019, a full year after Odyssey's release, so all of Odyssey's sales on PC and console on release were at full price
>doesn't mention that this game succeeding isn't good enough, it needs to print money to offset the company's losses from Star Wars Outlaws, Avatar, and Skull & Bones
Wow, it's garbage

 

[p1138]

He's talking about me.

Probably, I'm just confused why he quoted me for no apparent reason other than to complain to you about Tassi.

Although speaking of which, he's just lying by omission and using game publisher talking points as if they're meaningful. The simple reality is that if AC Shadows were doing well, Ubisoft would have stated sales numbers rather than just "2 million players" and it's that simple.

>doesn't mention that this game succeeding isn't good enough, it needs to print money to offset the company's losses from Star Wars Outlaws, Avatar, and Skull & Bones

Don't forget Prince of Persia The Lost Crown, and XDefiant. The two crypto games likely cost next to nothing to produce, so little that they didn't bother marketing them. They shat the bed last year with basically their entire portfolio to the point of an entire year's worth of revenue(it was what, down 50% year over year for winter 2024? you know, when the holidays exist which should be one of their biggest revenue generators?) was riding on the success of Yasuke before Shadows got delayed into 2025.

 

[Observotron]

This game is getting astroturfed to hell and back on reddit.

But I've seen a few more bits of news to extrapolate some data.

Allegedly it was the highest selling game on PS5, no word on Xbox. About 27% of "activations" were from PC, a majority of which are from Steam. It's jumped up on the US's Xbox Top played to 12th place, sitting right behind rocket league.

The SteamDB page estimates between 111-380k steam sales. Using a rough, and most likely inaccurate, calculation - we're looking at 440k - 1.5 Mil sales/ $30- $105mil.

As of right now (Unsurprisingly) Ubisoft's stock has mostly been unaffected.

What I will say, Is I don't trust these numbers all too much, and I wouldn't put it past Ubisoft to find a way to inflate these numbers somehow.

 

[huesofmercury]

so is zack in the room now?

 

[Observotron]

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so is zack in the room now?

Whether or not it relates to a game I like, going to reddit for anything you enjoy is ill-advised.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

>argues that Shadows hit a slightly higher peak concurrent player count on Steam than Odyssey (64k to 62k) and Odyssey was not a failure, thus Shadows is not a failure
>ignores budgets hilariously ballooning out of control in the past decade
>doesn't mention the multiple delays, which added even more development costs onto that shitpile of cash they burned
>doesn't mention Odyssey started development after Syndicate (2015), so it was only 3 years of dev costs while Shadows has been in development since Odyssey, nearly 7 years
>glosses over the 2 hours of credits showcasing that not only was the dev time much longer, the amount of devs working on this was astronomical, hinting at ridiculous dev costs
>doesn't mention that Odyssey also launched on the Nintendo console (the Switch) while Shadows didn't while said Nintendo console is the biggest console at the moment
>doesn't mention that their Ubisoft+ subscription service is available on consoles too, so console sales are likely hamstrung by that as well
>doesn't mention that Ubisoft+ launched in 2019, a full year after Odyssey's release, so all of Odyssey's sales on PC and console on release were at full price
>doesn't mention that this game succeeding isn't good enough, it needs to print money to offset the company's losses from Star Wars Outlaws, Avatar, and Skull & Bones
Wow, it's garbage

To be fair he did mention some of that and the Nintendo one may not be much of a factor if it's not a console the series typically targets or sells well on anyway, but the omission of several of those key facts is important. Thanks for pointing it out.

The simple reality is that if AC Shadows were doing well, Ubisoft would have stated sales numbers rather than just "2 million players" and it's that simple.

True, I'm just wondering how bad the situation is. Praying for the worst lol

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

They already flew pretty close to the sun with the founding of America in AC3 but doing WW2 means they have to villainize Japan or America - which is almost certainly a no-go to investors. Almost doubly so after this release.

According to AC lore (not that Ubisoft gives a shit about that anymore) Roosevelt, Hitler, Stalin and Churchill were all Templars and WW2 was basically a big planned inside job.

There's no fucking way modern Ubisoft would be able to pull something like that off.

 

[30+GameOvers]

According to AC lore (not that Ubisoft gives a shit about that anymore) Roosevelt, Hitler, Stalin and Churchill were all Templars and WW2 was basically a big planned inside job.

There's no fucking way modern Ubisoft would be able to pull something like that off.

That would have been a cool story. I mean, in reality it wasn't that far off, the only reason a war started in the first place was because Hitler stopped playing by the rules, teamed up with Stalin and both Roosevelt and Churchill were too far gone as golem nigger cattle goes. Since they went against the masters of the latter, war was declared, and additionally Roosevelt had a hate-boner against Japan so he let Pearl Harbor allegedly happen on purpose(not unlike what we've seen with 9/11 and "War on Terror" with W).
Plenty of fun you can have with that setting, even if you avoid the big nosed jew in the room, you can play on some of the lesser talked about conspiracies and politics of the era that no WW2 game will touch upon. There is zero chance modern Ubisoft will do anything like that again, however. I'm still surprised they even went along with that Mario x Rabbids XCOM game or that alien invasion Siege crossover, that's what cool studios do and Ubisoft only gives us predictable slop.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Let me take a crack at it:

US/UK = Templars
Free France/French Reaistance = Assassins
Germany = Radical Templars (Just have Hitler and his inner circle be Templars who broke off to use the Eden mcguffins for their own ends)
Rest of the Axis = Templars who side with the Nazi Radicals
SS = Radical Assassins
Russians = Independent (The Assassin backed revolution toppled the Templar backed Czar. Stalin purges was in part him removing any Assassin influence)

Honestly having a storyline about how WW2 (or 1) was such a clusterfuck that the Assassins and Templars team up into their own little subtractions would be pretty cool twist on the two secret organizations locked in am endless shadow war.

Have it be in WW1 and have the templars and assassins be blaming each other for Ferdinand.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

We didn't know how good we had it with Desmond Miles. Lmao.