Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

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Ellen getting choked out (and apparently she was okay with light pressure before) and that she never once questions afterwards if that was okay goes to show she was very long gone before she pooned out. No, she doesn't get off to it, but that she never once attempted to push her off is telling.

She was likely hoping she would die. Then again, no one pens worse Ellen Page fanfiction than this Elliot feller: This whole, maddeningly tedious exercise in creative writing is Ellen's attempt to have her current state make sense as the most recent step in a flow chart series of plausible, causally sequential events in which the moments she purports to feel good about are, rather conspicuously, the only ones she claims responsibility for - which is why it's all so unbelievable. It's nonfiction authored by a fantasy: the product of a woman who ruined her life, then wrote from the pretense of having achieved her ideal self - Meaning any details grounded in reality (such as the consistent descriptions of her utterly insane, woman-moment BPD behavior, when separated from how she's telling us to feel about it) have to be an accident.

Pageboy has more in common with Audrey Hale's manifesto than it does with most any other celebrity memoir.
 
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Not only that, honestly this is a cautionary tale of what happens when you want to live a hedonistic lifestyle instead of getting serious professional help and having unresolved trauma.
The problem is more that Ellen never wanted to live a hedonistic lifestyle or be an actor. She's spent her whole life trying to pretend to do things and to this day does know what she wants, does, or wants to do. She's like a Mallory Ortberg who can't name and may not even know the life goals or desires she's denying herself.
This is wholesome. Girl does coke, she tries to David Carradine you, you have sex and leave her in the cheap motel before she wakes up. ROMANCE!
This is every night for hipsters or actors or sailors in their 20s. However, you should not choose to do that every night if you don't like it, and if you wind up all sad and whiny because of it, you shouldn't have signed up.
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We start the chapter on a reflection, in the aftermath of her coming out in 2014 and thinking on how she was going to do with her life, she made a list on things to do to help her cause with the gay commnunity.

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"I'm officially gay now, so I made a list of Official Gay Things that I should do."
Just admitting she's an NPC out loud now.

Yep. Those primitive African countries have always been the epitome of woke, and if it weren't for those backward Christians and their lack of tolerance for STD-spreading degeneracy, Africa would today be a wonderful place where AIDS isn't spreading like wildfire and where we've set aside strange notions of sex being binary.
She also doesn't understand that the death penalty is for raping kids and the disabled.
In extreme cases, the punishment will be death. The bill deems such cases “aggravated homosexuality” if the victim is aged below 14 or above 75, has a physical or mental disability, or has contracted through the sexual act an illness that has no scientific cure. Death will also be applicable if the accused is a parent, guardian, or serial offender.
https://qz.com/death-penalty-for-aggravated-homosexuality-in-uganda-1850251250

Admittedly, the news is to blame for this, having misleading headlines like:

Two Ugandan men may face death penalty after ‘aggravated homosexuality’ charge

Before admitting in a small, easy-to-miss line that they were facing the death penalty for raping cripples and little boys:
Another man was charged with “aggravated homosexuality” last month in Jinja district in eastern Uganda for allegedly performing “a sexual act with a child aged 12 of the same sex,” according to Okui.

Homosexuality is synonymous with rape in Ugandan eyes. A big part of that is the history of the Uganda Martyrs, Christian court pages that were tortured to death for refusing the king's sexual advances.
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A witness to the event, the French missionary priest Lourdel, considered that the principal cause was Mwanga's feeling of being despised by the literate Christians who claimed a superior knowledge of religion. Lourdel gave as a secondary cause of Mwanga's action the refusal of the pages to meet traditional royal demands of sexual submission. The king, who by tradition had the power of life and death over his subjects, was angered by this refusal to obey his wishes to have sex with him.

Marie de Kiewet-Hemphill concludes that the immediate pretext, if not the whole cause, was therefore the refusal of the pages to offer themselves to Mwanga Roland Oliver rejects resentment against Christianity as a sufficient reason, since it does not explain why Mwanga took action against these young men and not against prominent chiefs and women among the converts. Sylvia Antonia Nannyonga-Tamusuza draws attention to the same point. J. P. Thoonen in his book on the question agrees with Kiewet-Hemphill's analysis, while recognizing the existence of other political factors. Particularly as some of those that renounced their faith were spared death."

In the week leading to the executions, the Christian Matthias Gayinga rejected the sexual demands of Mwanga's close friend, the Muslim Lutaya, to whom the king had sent him for that purpose. For this he was severely punished, though not killed. His stance was described as a "splendid refusal" by the English missionary A. P. Ashe, who later said it set the spark for later events. His action was followed by the refusal of another convert, Anatole Kirrigwajjo, to accept nomination to a high post "which he could only exercise at the peril of his soul".

While many of the Christian pages often arranged to be missing when Mwanga demanded them, or refused his sexual solicitation outright, one page Muwafi did comply. Mwanga is said to have caught another page teaching Christianity to Muwafi. Mwanga saw this as an attempt "to rob him of his favourite and so far always compliant toy, by teaching him the religion which made them prefer death to submission". Mwanga summoned the pages and asked those who prayed to stand to one side. These, most of whom were between 15 and 30 years old, were then taken on a long journey to execution by being burnt alive. By displaying the courage their Christianity demanded, they helped remove any notion that the new religion was inconsistent with traditional ideals of heroism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Martyrs

Nowadays, you have the World Bank threatening countries like Uganda and Ghana into being more LGBT friendly, further cementing the average African's perception of homosexuality being a tool of foreign interference.
US President Joe Biden described the law as “a tragic violation of universal human rights,” and also directed an evaluation of his country’s aid contributions and investments in Uganda.

The US also announced visa restrictions for Ugandan officials but did not name those affected.

Earlier this month, the World Bank said it would not consider fresh loan requests from Uganda following the anti-gay legislation.

The World Bank’s resolution came days after the United Nations announced the closure of its human rights office in Uganda after nearly two decades in operation, citing a decision by local authorities to “terminate the mandate” of the UN rights body.

Museveni pushed back against criticism of the anti-gay law, while accusing the World Bank of daring to coerce his country “into abandoning our faith, culture, principles and sovereignty, using money.”

“Uganda will develop with or without loans,” Museveni said following the decision.
Ghana's Supreme Court will on Wednesday start hearing a case that has the potential to both threaten the West African country's $20 billion debt restructuring and test the World Bank’s commitment to support LGBTQ rights.

The court is being asked to strike down legislation that would jail those who identify as LGBTQ and punish others — family members, co-workers, teachers — if they fail to inform on them to the authorities. If the court rejects the appeal, the World Bank will face a dilemma: should it continue to support the anti-poverty fight in Ghana or defend liberal values.

It’s a decision that’s likely to reverberate way beyond Ghana’s borders, setting a precedent for how the Bank handles the erosion of LGBTQ and other human rights globally.

But I really doubt Ellen has bothered to research any of this, or really thought about it deeply at all.
 
Its a greek myth, so that would be Elatos Page.
I was referencing the one from The Odyssey. He's one of the suitors and gets killed by Emaeus at the end of the story.
He's played by Pat Kelman (had to look this up) in the 1997 miniseries.
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About this film, anyway - do we know if it's going to be "realistic" like the Brad Pitt / Eric Bana / Dianne Kruger one? Or is it going to be mythic with gods and goddesses? If the latter then Hermes could work as he's the trickster god beloved of alchemists obsesses with transmutation; and Lord knows she permanently looks like she's just run a marathon.
You can do a realistic Illiad because the war did actually happen and the Illiad was the fictionalized version of it, you can't do a realistic odyssey because its 99% fairy tale, literally every single one of Odysseus stops are him dealing with supernatural stuff.
 
You can do a realistic Illiad because the war did actually happen and the Illiad was the fictionalized version of it, you can't do a realistic odyssey because its 99% fairy tale, literally every single one of Odysseus stops are him dealing with supernatural stuff.
Ah, right - Odyssey, not Illiad. Well in that case I don't know what she could play. Odysseus's bow string looking at her. :(
 
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The only realistic role she could have it's the child sex slave of any of the heroes. She's still a shorty and very thin. There is no way that, if she was really a man, someone like her was sent to fight. She would be sent to entertain the troops.
 
I just want to see Ellen cast in a eunuch or castrato role and still do a bad job; so we can move on to the next act of this farcical tragedy of beavers, ninja turtle abs, and speedo anecdotes which never happened. Maybe she'll fuck one of her parents.
 
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hey i'm reading through this thread, so like has Ellen never been with a dude ever? like never even tried to date a boy for appearances or anything like that? you'd think if she was going to transition she'd want to have a beard, especially because it would be an excuse to hang out around other men. like imagine if she dated a boy in high school that played for the soccer team, then she would have an excuse to wear his jacket or his jersey and be around all the other men on the team. have her dragged along on guys nights out, etc.

like for a "male" she sure never seemed to enjoy manly stuff until she poon'd out
Wasn’t Page slated to be one of the biggest names in Hollywood after Juno? Feels like stock has fallen HARD.
they say that for every person that lucks into a smash hit movie. they said it for everyone in the hangover too, and outside of bradley cooper none of them went on to become major movie stars.

Page's career post juno was awful, especially because she had that tomboy thing going on, and thats really hard to make a movie around if its not in the kids genre. her first "big" other starring role post-juno was the Drew Barrymore flick whip it, and it fucking flopped hard. Drew cried because her career was already on a massive downswing and this was her attempt to transition to behind camera roles now that she isn't getting as many leading roles anymore. honestly Ellen just wasn't the right girl for the role. it was a roller derby movie and you have fucking 5 foot tall skinny bitch as queen of the roller rink, but because she had some starpower and no one above her said yes, she got the role and it was the usual post-oscar flop and she ended up back in the indies doing films, her as the female lead/supporting in inception was also a result of her role in juno but outside of that it was a lot of worse and worse performing indies until she ended up doing a netflix show.

but she was never going to be a big name, she was terrible at interviews and her performances weren't that good either, she was serviceable in inception but thats why she was cast, it was a role that barely mattered besides being the author surrogate.
Maybe I shouldn't have sympathy for someone with enough money to have options,
i doubt she has lots of money, if you're not the lead role your paycheck is fuck all, having said that she's easily made over $10 million in her entire career, but i doubt she saved it all.
 
Citation needed, because I can’t find any info regarding Cera making any sort of public statement in support of Ellen/hanging around her after she pooned herself. I imagine it’s just bullshit conjured up by the retards behind this page- half plausible speculation, half desperately hoping it’s true to stroke the fancied image they’ve built up of these people in their minds.
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Wow, just look at all that unrelenting TRANS JOY® radiating off of her in that lower image, versus how her admittedly then-miserable and then-dysphoric self looks in the top one! Yessireebob, her transition has completely and immeasurably improved every single aspect of her life 100%! No regrets! Super times had by all! Yiiiiiikes…you know she’s gonna kill herself someday, right?

The comments are just a bombardment of people pointing out either how depressed she looks in every post-pooning image, or that she made a huge mistake. And lastly, “Real friends stand by you, no matter what”?? Not true. Real friends will intervene when you’re about to do something really stupid/unhealthy/damaging, and urge you to reconsider. True friends will solicit the help of more qualified personnel to help save you if the situation is really dire and you’re about to commit extreme self-harm, should they lack the resources or proximity to administer the help themselves. What a real friend won’t do is stand by and applaud your self-destruction.
 
Church visit? Maybe she's changing the story so it fits the classic narrative of "conservative bigoted Christian family", or maybe I misinterpreted to whole Buddhist thing and she just went to a weird Buddhist cult school but they weren't Buddhist.
to be fair aren't buddhists really homophobic too? like their stance is anti-gay marriage
So many guys would've liked to have seen her topless back in the day
i doubt that
actually also thought about Leonardo DiCaprio, because they worked together on Inception in 2010 so they would be acquaintances from that. But the gossip about him is that he is secretly gay, based on him being long term housemates with Lukas Haas, which is what Cary Grant did with the guy he privately called his husband. Also, Neil Patrick Harris used to claim that when he first got to hollywood he was offered the number for the same bearding service that DiCaprio uses.
as much as i could buy Leo being a fruit and needing a beard, why would he deliberately choose such hot younger women to be his beard? especially when everyone gives him shit about breaking up when they turn 25.

like if you're going to pretend to be straight why be the biggest asshole? if sexuality isn't involved why not pick the most dedicated environmentalist chick? so just at minimum all his fans go "maybe i should go vegan too"
There are similar accusations against his brother.
not allegations, his brother openly admits he did them.
I think I've harped on this a bit in this thread, and she would have been 18-19 when making it so out of her parents purview, but anyone with attentive parents simply wouldn't have been allowed, or have been strongly discouraged to take this job. Ditto for Hard Candy, and she would have been 16-17 and still her parents' responsibility then. It's kind of inevitable - the kids with the least oversight who need someone to guide them, get pushed into further bad scenarios precisely because they don't have that.
i mean most horror movie victims are around that same age, this isn't thirteen where the content is genuinely fucked. we're talking about someone old enough to join the military and serve in an active warzone, she might be retarded but she's still an adult
 
as much as i could buy Leo being a fruit and needing a beard, why would he deliberately choose such hot younger women to be his beard? especially when everyone gives him shit about breaking up when they turn 25.
DiCaprio is long term associated with P Diddy and previously dated and stayed friends with Naomi Campbell, who has a longtime rumour that she's a sex trafficker pimp like Ghislaine Maxwell, which has come up again now because of the p diddy stuff. Both were regular attendees at white parties. The idea is that the models are with him for the exposure boost to other rich men and then marry or date them, with dicaprio getting a kickback. Mischa Barton talked in an interview about how her manager tried to pressure her into dating him for the sake of her career. Someone responded in thread when the chapter was about Dicaprio and Ellen's double date with whoever Peter was that it sounded like a set-up. (DiCaprio's date was his mother and I think they went to disneyland.)

edit: has the quote function changed? you can't hover over it anymore? anyway yeah she was 18 when that happened but she started in the industry at 11 so she was already unprotected for years before that. You need support to fall back on to learn to protect yourself and your boundaries and I don't think she has that. She doesn't seem to have any boundaries.
 
so ellen was 19 when she had her first gyno appointment? thats awfully old.
Matthew Perry's was a recent one who was even whinier than Ellen and he earned a lot more and had a lot more fame to waste in the first place
the difference is that it can be read as snark and he clearly had real struggles, he was a drug addict until he fucking died.
but now it's ok since she is "queer."
this is another reason lesbians seem to have vanished completely, most women want the label but not the image, or still deep deep down enjoy having a dick inside them.
. Also talking about an incident in Paris with Alia
did she just fucking out her? like it would explain her lack of career vs Cera or other girls of her age group and level in hollywood.
And this is when she talks about how really really stressful she was with working with cis men all the time, it was literally killing her, guys!
shouldn't that be the fucking dream for a tranny? literally being "just one of the guys" especially on a nolan set, she probably was the only lady in a group of 200 dudes.
Why is there a movie where Ellen Page plays a little girl who graphically throws herself at Rainn Wilson of all people? Why does Leonardo DiCaprio take his mother as his date not just to premieres but to a literal private double date?
the reason is that she wanted to be in it, Super was made extremely cheaply, like every actor had to accept a minimum wage just for it to get made and they needed "star power" for the female lead role, if Ellen said no the film probably wouldn't exist. its more shocking that probably her last big role post-inception ended up being such a footnote. like if someone asks you to play a rapist in a film for $30/hr would you say yes?

As for the mom thing, you'd be surprised how many former stage moms continue to basically take care of their sons even when they're older. Jake Gyllenhaal's mom has been said to help him cheat on girlfriends and help kick out one night stands. Leo probably has a similar thing going on, family isn't just family, they're accomplices.
 
A lot of stars never grew out of a child phase, as they're constantly spoiled and pandered to all the time. So, in a way they still are dependent on their parents to solve their problems and the parents are ok with it because they have access to their money.

In her book, Naya Rivera said her mom had to be the one making an appointment for her abortion because she couldn't handled it despite she was in her 20s. In the movie about her life, I dunno if it was true or not, Gia Carangi's mother didn't want to stay with her all the time because she had her own life and that made Gia spiral down faster because she needed to be constantly taken care of.

To be fair, DiCaprio's life could have been much, much worse if his mom wasn't around.
 
how bad must Ellen have been at lesbo sex for every one of her girlfriends to think she's straight when she gives off dyke energy
But you know, telling Ellen to put on a skirt for a role that you are paying her to play is LITERALLY killing her and she'll derail the shoot by slamming her head into the wall.
that brings up a great point, she's a terrible actress. think about how many men have had to wear dresses or literally be the opposite gender, like its one of the first thing people learn about acting. "the women in shakespeare were played by men" Beyond that men playing women has been a huge part of cinema, even her own costars have done it, fuck Chris pratt was willing to run in women's heels for a gag on a late night show and would easily wear a skirt or make up for a role, but this dyke can't do it for a role? all her characters have to basically be her.
Evgeny recovered, had a family and lived to the age of 63
thats insane, he looks amazing too, obviously that wasn't taken right at 63 but he looks like the typical happy go lucky guy you'd find in the US that was born in the late 1920s, you wouldn't think he had a tough life whatsoever
im hazy on the timeline but that part was off putting. like swimming shirtless with her male friends is weird if she was old enough to have started growing boobs. and not having a shirt is even more baffling as it wasnt even a pool, if was one of those kiddie wading pool things, so no actual swimming. maybe her friend's dad was a bit of a pedo and wanted to see her shirtless, that or he was very naive and a bit retarded.
people forget she writes like she's Dr.Manhattan and its not necessary for her to be 10 years old in this part of the chapter. i don't remember kiddie wading pools requiring swim trunks either outside of when i was genuinely young like kindergarten age. you literally just roll up your pants or take off your shoes in sit in the foot
parents who sign their kid up to be a child actor in hollywood, particularly when they don't even go with them and supervise, are bad parents and Ellen has a right to feel negatively about them though.
she was literally an adult by that point.
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It's funny, if you go look at subreddits like FTMover30 you'll notice that a lot of them are womanlets. They don't even need to be your classical butch dyke, though a lot of them are.
Same with nonbinary subreddits, although I don't frequent them to the same extent I do FTMover30, or tumblr queers in general. They're all small women who "took control" over their bodies by pooning out.
I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't all such toxic, vitriolic bitches. And I agree, pooning/trooning out is the easier way for a lot of trans identified people these days instead of going to therapy and fixing their shitty attitudes or helping themselves.
it really is rare to see a tall woman troon out or a short dude, like if you're 5'4 why not start identifying as a lady, same with these 5'10 people who are too big to become models, being a man fixes that real easily.

Like Chaz Bono looks so much like a man that if you didn't know better you'd assume he was just an ethan ralph type dude.
transgenderism and autism, Cluster B personality disorders
that's what does it for me, like even if we had a magic potion that could put them in the "right" gender, it still wouldn't work because their brains just don't identify as human.
It doesn't help delusional people to play along with and reinforce their delusions,
and yet the science on dementia is to play along with their delusions and has been the science for over a quarter century now, which tells you how bullshit science has been for awhile now
 
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