Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

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Forgotten Beast said:
It's depressing to think that A New Hope could convey the concept of "Empire Bad and Oppresive" in thirty seconds, without a single word*, right at the fucking start with the power of visual narrative, music, framing and assorted plastic bits glued together, but in 2025 we need two entire fucking seasons of a TV show and attempted rape to do the same. Poorly.
I know there's an ideological motivation behind it to link it to current politics, but what's the point? This is the safe-edgy equivalent of Captain Planet's subtlety. "Media literacy" my ass.

*excluding the introductory text crawl, but you know what I mean.
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I mean given the politics of Star Wars were given more depth since A New Hope, that scene really can't sell the Empire as bad when there are so many people who act like the Empire are the real heroes of Star Wars
 
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Screamer_2 said:
I think some people are clinging on to the desire for the old Star Wars, but that is dead and gone. This is far better than most of the shit we've gotten. I understand why people like Star Wars man don't like the rape scene but Star Wars isn't a child franchise anymore. I'm a middle-aged person, I don't need stuff aimed at 11-year-olds. I'm not watching Andor to recapture some lost innocence of my youth. I am not watching with kids to relive my youth through them. I'm an adult and it's a show for adults.
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I honestly don't have an issue with rape being mentioned in a Star Wars show that was already known to be darker in tone anyway. The EU had dark stuff happen all the time in their books, it was mentioned before that there's a few occasions in EU books where rape is at least hinted at in certain situations. What I have no tolerance for is the whole "Undocumented immigrant" thing. I was never going to watch Andor anyway but if this were some other random show I had interest in I would have turned it off immediately as soon as they start with that shit.
 
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BullfrogBill said:
I honestly don't have an issue with rape being mentioned in a Star Wars show that was already known to be darker in tone anyway. The EU had dark stuff happen all the time in their books, it was mentioned before that there's a few occasions in EU books where rape is at least hinted at in certain situations. What I have no tolerance for is the whole "Undocumented immigrant" thing. I was never going to watch Andor anyway but if this were some other random show I had interest in I would have turned it off immediately as soon as they start with that shit.
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Undocumented immigrant in Star Wars used to mean stuff like Twi'lek dancing girls being smuggled to Hutt crime lords

Not whatever is going on in Andor
 
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Mr. Racewar1488 said:
I was expecting it to be bad because it's Disney but I wasn't expecting rape to be a part of the Star Wars canon. Is Wookieepedia going to have a Rape article now?
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I never expected Mike Stoklasa's joke that Palpy raped the Force to create Anakin Skywalker would be confirmed as canon like this
 
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It's really starting to feel like Andor's popularity hinges on the Trump Administration and whatever wacky thing he does this week. I mean seriously, an attempted rape scene involving Not!ICE and illegal space immigrants is right out of the headlines.

Also, I can't help but notice how out of place the word "rape" feels in Star Wars. it's like how Disney has characters use real swear words now, this isn't Star Wars anymore. It's just generic liberal sci fi.
 
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On one hand, I suspect the rape was thrown in there to get people to pay attention.

On the other, when it came to The Rise of Skywalker, people clutched their pearls that the Emperor of all people was having sex, as if a fucking Emperor couldn't have all the sex he wanted, consensual and non-consensual.

All in all, great big nothingburger.
 
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Not A Bunny said:
On one hand, I suspect the rape was thrown in there to get people to pay attention.

On the other, when it came to The Rise of Skywalker, people clutched their pearls that the Emperor of all people was having sex, as if a fucking Emperor couldn't have all the sex he wanted, consensual and non-consensual.

All in all, great big nothingburger.
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Former Palpy mistresses popped up again and again in the EU. He knew it was good to be da king
 
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Not A Bunny said:
On one hand, I suspect the rape was thrown in there to get people to pay attention.

On the other, when it came to The Rise of Skywalker, people clutched their pearls that the Emperor of all people was having sex, as if a fucking Emperor couldn't have all the sex he wanted, consensual and non-consensual.

All in all, great big nothingburger.
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I still say Shmi was a love slave in her youth. Which is more plausible, Palpatine had a layover on Tatooine or the Force impregnated Shmi the virgin?
 
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Gondolindrim said:
attempted rape scene involving Not!ICE and illegal space immigrants
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I was getting ready to watch these first 3 episodes.... my friends have been begging me to watch them and I will admit season 1 was one of the only disney wars things i didn't completely hate to the point of wanting to vomit.

Is this an outlier scene or is it indicative of the entire tone?
 
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The handsome tard said:
It does present Boba as a pragmatic bounty hunter but one that still has some level of standards.
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Geee, almost like the kind of character who fans could really enjoy reading adventures of in a mature universe. The kind of character that would become a visual icon of coolness. A character fans could cheer for while also not quite being sure what he would do next... who explores moral grey zones without being a sack of shit. Somebody interesting but also hopeful, Somebody who makes a great main character for a series.

Sounds like the perfect direction to take an immediately recognizable iconic character who's associated with coolness.

or.... you know.... this:

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Nerds who think including scenes like this in their favorite franchies are so gay. Do you think the writer who pitched the rape idea was a sagging sphere of a female or a male who makes a big deal out of being an "ally to women" but surreptitiously sniffs the seats of chairs used by women after they leave a room?

The preferences of the sort of "fans" who are praising the inclusion of the near-rape scene are revealed, they're the sort of people who see franchises like SW as one big toyland they've been immersed in their entire lives and think the best way to make it better is to make it more "mature" and feature "dark themes". It will make it "more compelling" and "believable". One of the most "how an idiot believes smart people think" ideas is that merely depicting something terrible happening is mature and sophisticated storytelling.
 
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Andor season 2 makes a lot of sense when you consider that season 1 was regarded as a side show to be quickly produced and discarded so Disney could have another series to shill disney+ with. The surprising positive reception by both critics and audiences means season 2 has become a prestige show where they can shove their politics and pretentious bullshit down our throats
 
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I still don't get the comparisons to the Wannsee conference brought up that exist to just be like "uh oh is fascism". It had more in common with Iraq and how an excuse had to be made to invade the country to secure the oil. It's just that instead of oil its stuff for the Death Star. I guess the left has abandoned all their rhetoric about colonisation to go instead about fascism.
 
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