Mega Rad Gun Thread

[AGPinochet]

https://www.twz.com/land/army-captain-slams-new-xm7-rifle-as-unfit-sig-sauer-says-otherwise

Looks the like XM7 is getting Shit canned (thankfully)

They're also dumping the M10 Booker tank

AR's on Mars
The Guy who runs Weapon Outfitters (whose only qualifications are running a pretty decent E-commerce website and taking pictures of hot chicks in various states of undress) says that "Rumor Mill" (I would think being the guy he is that he would have better sources than you or me) is saying that NGSW is going to be scrapped



FGC-9 in Myanmar


A-545


Baffle stack of a Type 64 smg


Armenia has invented VHS-2 at home but in 5.45, the T-AB 1A, also is that a Keymo muzzle brake?


Rapper 50 Cent committing a huge crime while in Iraq for a concert (possessing not only a firearm as a Felon, but a a machinegun at that)




Integrally suppressed K31 9mm conversion


Winchester 94 Buffer tube adapter


This is said to have been a Canadian Army Biathlon rifle


Two part clamp on Bayonet lug that can be ordered to fit 19 different barrel diameters by Cogburn Arsenal




You've heard the Urban Youth mumble rap the praises of dat muhfuggin switch, now get ready for whatever the hell this is


I genuinely can't tell you what the material is

Bullpup HK SL-8

HKPro thread on it (doesn't want to archive for some reason

https://www.hkpro.com/threads/sl8-g36-bullpup-project.139652/

Bullpup SVT-40


SKS that takes Glock mags


Said to have been at one point in the possession of Viet Cong


Marlin 795


Some of you may remember some time ago I posted photos of a VDV Serviceman who had converted an AKM into a Bullpup, There's actually a third photo his creation. At some point he added a Hexagon Tactical suppressor

Zenitco has a replacement pistol grip for DP-27's that incorporate an optic mount

 

[quaawaa]

I'll ask here since the innawoods thread is slower than molasses whats a good handgun for backpacking keep in mind I'm more concerned for 4 legged critters than 2 after doing a bit of research I'm heavily considering the Ruger SP101 for the following major reasons:

Carry a .500 Linebaugh:

Concealability: I need a CCW and on backpacking trails alotta people get wigged out when you open carry (people go missing on trails/parks alot)

Every liberal you scare away is one fewer person crowding the trail (actually multiple because they tell all their friends about the "crazy redneck" they saw). Just open carry.

 

[Polock]

They're also dumping the M10 Booker tank

NOOOOOOOOO

my heckin cute tankette....

I'll ask here since the innawoods thread is slower than molasses whats a good handgun for backpacking keep in mind I'm more concerned for 4 legged critters than 2 after doing a bit of research I'm heavily considering the Ruger SP101

From my understanding, "stoppan power" in pistol calibers (.44 mag and weaker) is largely a myth or exaggerated due to the limitations of physics and the anatomical realities involved. The front of the human skull can deflect pistol bullets, the T-Box is tiny, and even being shot in the heart won't actually kill you outright. However all the knowledge I have about firearms is in regards to self defense against humans, not bears.

The most important factors are where your shots land, how many accurate hits you can get, and the type of ammo you're using (i.e. using full metal jacket practice ammo vs hollow point when shooting aggroed humans). To me this means you'd want a higher capacity gun with manageable recoil.

None of this matters if you don't actually practice with and carry your weapon. I've said it before but if you're dead set on a gun and it motivates you to practice and carry it, then fucking get it! Revolvers are awesome, so if you just really want to get the SP101 then get it. If at all possible, see if you can rent a similar sized revolver at a shooting range and try it out first.

I carry OWB with a loose shirt when hiking. I tried IWB but it just too sweaty.

 

[crab fucker]

Realistically anything could stop a bear but it's not necessarily the best choice to plink at a grizzly with a .22lr.

10mm is probably the best choice in terms of an autoloading cartridge to use on a bear, but I saw some data about .357 sig that suggested it would do well too. Any magnum round (except maybe 22 but I legit don't know anything about that round really) should be capable of doing serious damage or warding the fucking thing off. I'm not a revolver simp or anything, but they do have a serious advantage in terms of reliability and ease of use compared to some autoloaders. Main one I can think of is that unless you have a complete freak shit malfunction in your revolver, just about any malfunction won't stop you from pulling the trigger and firing the next round in the wheel. This could make all the difference in killing or 'convincing' the bear to fuck off when it's about to bear (lol) down on you.

Bear spray is obviously a suggestion too, but even if I believe that it works in more than 90% of cases, having a high caliber handgun on me would certainly be a good idea either way.

 

[Hyperbolic Steroids]

As for holsters, handles, etc. I don't have any input. I always use an IWB for my 9mm when I am "innawoods" since I don't personally favor open carry unless you have a long gun, but otherwise a revolver aficionado would have to give his opinion.

I carry in a leather chest holster. I'm not sure how someone with a proper ruck could manage IWB carrying unless you're not using your straps or strapping the gun to your body, can't be very comfy. Across the chest you could just put a button up or zip up hoodie over it and just unzip or rip to draw should you need to. Obviously you'll be printing but I mean you're in the woods, I doubt the bear can tell and anyone you pass on the trail shouldn't be able to tell that easily when you're covered in other gear anyways.

I would say you likely want a flat nosed bullet to get through bone and fat better than a round nose. Bear anatomy protects their vitals pretty well

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This seems more hunter oriented, what with the broadside and all. I'm curious to if a shot to the torso from the front would be sufficient seeing as how there's a lot less singular bones in the way and instead you have the collar bone and ribs to worry about.

 

[Dusty Old Bones]

Any modern production 9mm semi auto from a quality manufacture will work fine, and you are working off of a lot of baseless fuddlore to justify your preference for revolvers.

Well, let's not be too fuddlore in the other direction. Automatics aren't magic wands that erase every problem you point them at. Guns can and do jam. Glocks in particular have problems cycling when being shot one-handed or poorly supported. Getting charged on by a grizzly can immediately erase all but the best drilled practice - it's no time to be fiddling with slide racking, clearing jams, etc.

Revolvers have the advantage of simplicity, initial speed of fire, and reliable operation. If you're bigger, or older, you usually experience an ergonomic and accuracy preference for revolvers. (The old gunslinger larp)
This is entirely subjective though; practice enough with your automatic and you'll be able to bring it to bear (lol) just as quickly and accurately.

Practice is the key in all things - if you settle on a revolver, shoots a few loads of 38 special, them 38p+, then alternating 357 mag, 38, and P so you get used to the recoil. Buy 2 or 3 speedloaders and use them for your reloads. You NEED to get good at reloading quickly and efficiently under fire. (Yes, most urban encounters are settled in 1 shot and chimp brain panics easy, but like FOUNT said, it's easy to get complacent with a magnum. Not getting lazy and drilling reloads are your tradeoff for carrying a wheel-gun)

If you settle on an automatic, I'd get a reliable 9mm Like Ruger, Beretta, S&W, Springfield, etc. If you want to do the style larp, a 1911 is a great, inexpensive and reliable and 45acp is cheaper than 357 (Yes I know, 'Mah 2 Wurld W'...- STFU. They're excellent guns.)

I'd stay away from Sigs because of the drop safe issue and their yiddish response, and Glocks just because they fail battery if you don't cup their balls properly. Siggers and Glocksuckers are the new fudds, eclipsing even AK bros - so prepare for endless rants defending BRAND when you say that in public.

 

[CoolGuy1990]

None of this matters if you don't actually practice with and carry your weapon. I've said it before but if you're dead set on a gun and it motivates you to practice and carry it, then fucking get it! Revolvers are awesome, so if you just really want to get the SP101 then get it. If at all possible, see if you can rent a similar sized revolver at a shooting range and try it out first.

I carry OWB with a loose shirt when hiking. I tried IWB but it just too sweaty.

I Firmly believe in practicing with what you carry back when I was carry a canik MC9 I was putting 100 rounds in it Biweekly, had to sell it to make rent but admittly fairly uncomfortable to carry alright gun for the price if I got another I'd get the S&W shield heard good things about it.
I agree on the shot placement you can probably live through a shot to the foot less so a shot through the heart
OWB is more than likely what I'll be using on a hike I don't want any gun rubbing on my hip or groin for 6+hrs a day

I don't generally agree with carrying magnum handguns for wilderness defense because most guys who use them don't train with them nearly often enough due to recoil and cost

Alotta boomers like them so I'm not surprised kinda odd since boomers typically have more disposable income

and you are working off of a lot of baseless fuddlore to justify your preference for revolvers.

more like nostalgia my dad gave me a S&W Model 10 as a going away present he bought it as a police trade in for 30$ and its one of my favorite pistols I've ever shot, tho when researching revolvers you tend to run into this kinda stuff so I more than likely was parroting fuddlore without realizing it

Whatever you do, the most important part is to always have the gun on you, and the second most important part is train as frequently as is feasible with the firearm. It is not a magical totem of destruction.

I'm super happy people think like this couldn't agree more

Every liberal you scare away is one fewer person crowding the trail (actually multiple because they tell all their friends about the "crazy redneck" they saw). Just open carry.

Libs are like hysteronic karens and will use admin violence and lie about you in a bid to have the powers that be fuck with you there like snakes and theres 2 ways of dealing with snakes
1) Crush there heads with shovels
2) Avoid them
can't really do the first so avoiding them is the best option don't let hubris be your downfall that being said don't be afraid

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

James Reeves took a completely unbiased look at his gifted "The Mini-Fix" from Q in .300 Blackout and says it's good. Kevin, the guy who runs Q, wants The Fix platform(~$3,500 + tax) to replace the Remington 700 blueprint.
A Remington 700 ADL is about $400 on sale, Howa barreled actions are cheaper and you don't have a stock to dispose of. Throw in a trip to a reputable smith to true up the receiver face(If you really wanted to) with a new barrel and a new trigger and add a lightweight MDT chassis - you're still in at maybe a third to half the price of the Q in which you can spend the rest on an optic and can, neither of which are included with The Fix.

I'd presume Q (Kevin) made a significant donation to Jame's law office (remember kid's, he's actually a bloodsucking LAWYER by trade) and probably literally sucked him off or gave him some ass (I'd SERIOUSLY bet James Reeves is either a closeted homosexual or is a bisexual at least) so now James at TFBTV now jerks off Q's shit anytime they send him something.....

No fucking shit. All of the big YouTube gin channels do the EXACT same thing (or they magically stop getting review units and hookers and blow at SHOT Show)

In the real world Q keeps making hype beast guns with insanely overpriced suppressors that are mediocre at best.

 

[myhairisonfire]

You've heard the Urban Youth mumble rap the praises of dat muhfuggin switch, now get ready for whatever the hell this is


I genuinely can't tell you what the material is

That's a hacksaw blade.

 

[Rainbow Idiot]

In the real world Q keeps making hype beast guns with insanely overpriced suppressors that are mediocre at best.

That's mostly true but I still want a 8.6 to mess with.

 

[BikeLock]

ou've heard the Urban Youth mumble rap the praises of dat muhfuggin switch, now get ready for whatever the hell this is

It's the easiest way to have a switch, by just not having one.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I am guessing those were Level 4 rated.

 

[Dean Pentel]

so I have no fucking clue what he's talking about.

Kevin has no fucking clue what he's talking about either.

I'd presume Q (Kevin) made a significant donation to Jame's law office (remember kid's, he's actually a bloodsucking LAWYER by trade) and probably literally sucked him off or gave him some ass (I'd SERIOUSLY bet James Reeves is either a closeted homosexual or is a bisexual at least) so now James at TFBTV now jerks off Q's shit anytime they send him something.....

James is definitely into dudes.

You know who's surprisingly not? Lucas Botkin. He's for sure a backstabbing aspie faggot but he's not actually into gay sex. Still, I don't think he merits beyond the modicum of respect one shows the general public as a gentleman.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Just LOOK at this Combat magnum that's on Guns International! full coverage American Scroll engraving with Stag grips. beeautiful!

 

[Ass to Ass]

I'll ask here since the innawoods thread is slower than molasses whats a good handgun for backpacking keep in mind I'm more concerned for 4 legged critters than 2 after doing a bit of research I'm heavily considering the Ruger SP101 for the following major reasons:

If you have a 9mm, just load hardcast rounds in it. It's certainly true that too much handgun is better than not enough, but it's also true that the handgun you already have is a far less expensive option than the handgun you don't.

Phil Shoemaker killed a Kodiak bear with 9mm hardcast rounds in a defensive gun use. I'm certain it's more than enough for a black bear, which is the sole bear in 95% of areas with bears.

Anyone who tells you that 10mm or .357 Magnum is necessary to stop a bear is a fudd. It's recognized as fuddlore and has been refuted with studies.

Weight: Ironically enough the weight is something I was originally wary of until I realized bear defense rounds for .357 kick like a mule

That makes sense if you run .357 Magnum. As I discussed earlier, it's really not necessary for stopping bears in most any case.

Robust Build: Ruger makes this particular model like a fucking tank hence the enhance weight and 5 round capacity vs the traditional 6

It doesn't matter what anyone tells you: capacity is important to some degree. There's no guarantee you're going to get an immediately incapacitating hit in that five rounds. It took Phil Shoemaker eight or nine to take that Kodiak down.

Aftermarket Support: The Sp101 was released in the 90s and has stuck around for a while so you can find aftermarket shit EVERWHERE

You know what has more aftermarket support than an SP101? A Glock or an M&P 2.0.

Concealability: I need a CCW and on backpacking trails alotta people get wigged out when you open carry (people go missing on trails/parks alot)

People can get wigged out all they want, it doesn't matter. "Oh no, a scary gun! What ever shall I do?" There's nothing they can do about it. Open carry, conceal carry, do whatever you want, but stop caring what cityslicker, nogunz faggots think.

Why a Revolver vs Semi? (Inb4 Fudd Faggot): >tfw you will never be Arthur Morgan
a few but a major reason(s) is dirt and mags, dirt is like sand for trails it gets everywhere and since 10mm is the minimum for bear defense in a semi this impacts reliability in all semis. or as scotty kilmer would put it "more moving parts more stuff can go wrong" Mags take up more space, weigh more (loaded), and usually require belt mounting (for ease of access) , vs 2 speed strips of .357.

1. As someone else said, revolvers almost always have many more parts than semi-autos.
2. As established earlier in my post, you don't need 10mm to kill a bear. They're not magically immune to 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .357 SIG, etc.
3. You really think a speed strip is going to be better because you can throw it in your pocket, despite the fact they're less intuitive than a magazine and take longer to reload your revolver with than a speedloader? It's almost always faster to reload a semi-automatic than a revolver. I carry two spare magazines on a daily basis and they're comfortable as-is, let alone don't print.

 

[Baked Al-Aqsa]

Some guy on Reddit took a Deagle to a USPSA major.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/s/qPd0ISI1kr

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and pilled.

For real though, deagles really do have great single action triggers (and the mk19 ones have an adjustable trigger) and the action is actually very smooth, definitely in 357 or 44 (I don't own a 50AE). The only issue is that it's meant to have really tight tolerances and when things don't have the correct, tight tolerances like the newer American made ones with the cringe cerakotes, you run into real reliability issues. The OG IMI produced mk 1 (which is what this guy was using) and mk 7 have beautiful blued or parkerized finishes and no unnecessary picatinny or weaver rails to clutter up the look. Even the slightly older IWI mk19s, although they have clunky looking weaver rails, still have decent finishes and are compatible with current production parts. Forget about new ones made in the US, unless you desperately need Trump's face on the side or something. Also, whatever you do, avoid promag magazines, but hopefully I don't need to tell you that.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

1. As someone else said, revolvers almost always have many more parts than semi-autos.

I've never understood this point. It's true, sure but a revolver's action parts are entirely sealed from the elements, while a autos (less complex, not necessarily simpler) guts hang out when it's open.

A single action revolver which many outdoorsmen still favor are actually pretty simple inside. My Ruger Blackhawk has like 12? maybe 15 parts in the action and they are completely encased in the frame.

Hardcast .45 colt +p, .44 Mag, .454 Casull, .500 linebaugh, and .480 ruger etc will all penetrate a bear from brain to ass which is what's important in a bear defense situation. IDK if i trust 9x19, the pussy level 10mm loads that are usually available at stores or .357 sig.

most auto cartridges are optimized to kill people. complete through penetration on a human chest takes what? 15 inches or something? on a charging bear to hit the vitals you'll have to penetrate the skull, brain, neck, and into the lungs and heart, hopefully breaking the spine along the way because even with a exploded heart and lungs they'll still be able to run several yards.

9x19, 10mm, .357 sig and .45 ACP will KILL a bear, .45 Colt +P. .44 MAG, .454, .500 and .480 have the ability to STOP a bear.

But of course the best defense is a rifle. a 220gr .30-06 or .300 win mag or .338 win mag or 9.3x62 or .375 H&H or pretty much any of the .45 cal or larger rifles will obliterate a bear if you get a good hit.

likely Projectile path:

 

[Troon_Patrol]

Legal question:

You live in the U.S., you come across a very rare and collectable vintage (about 50 years old) item you want to purchase currently in the possession of a questionable character. Is there a way to find out if the serial number comes back stolen before walking into an FFL and slapping down your ID on the counter, as the ATF commands it?

 

[Ass to Ass]

Legal question:

You live in the U.S., you come across a very rare and collectable vintage (about 50 years old) item you want to purchase currently in the possession of a questionable character. Is there a way to find out if the serial number comes back stolen before walking into an FFL and slapping down your ID on the counter, as the ATF commands it?

Some states offer serial number lookups for stolen guns. I live in Ohio and we have one through BCI, IIRC.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Is there a way to find out if the serial number comes back stolen

as mentioned by @Ass to Ass , some states do, but often you have to have access to the database query tool (through law enforcement) or some state DOJ have a way to send a letter to ask about a specific serial number. the federal tool is for FFLs and LEA only.