Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Lorkhan187]

The thing is, I can understand someone writing a way to resurrect someone with the Force, just make it really obscure or really hard to do. Like say, imagine that pool on Dathomir kills someone to resurrect someone else, like how the Fountain of Youth functioned in the Pirates of the Carribean movies. Or the resurrected person has a 75% chance of coming back wrong, and even if they come back right, there's still something wrong with them.

I like how Revenge of the Sith wrote it; the way it goes, you have to be at a certain power level to even try it. Darth Sidious knows all of the Sith lore that Darth Plagueis does, but he can't revive people for shit because he's just not strong enough, he killed his master in his sleep, which means Sidious never surpassed Plagueis in power. Hence why he tried to bring Anakin to his side as his apprentice/foster-son. He even says that only together can they discover the secret. Palpatine knew the lore, Anakin had the raw power, and the fact that the latter lost most of his power after Mustafar meant that Kenobi robbed Palpatine of that opportunity.

Im not inherently against the idea if its somewhat how you describe, to even try it you need to be of a certain power level to give it a try. If your not at that threshold its literally out of your grasp. Palpatine was capable of it or implied to through the Plageuis novel its just that he couldn't risk Plageuis mastering and perfecting his own immortality because he didnt trust Plageuis to share that with him as well as he'd be unstoppable if he could do it. But when writers make it so theres little to no consequence and theres a dozen different ways to do it then it becomes less compelling and takes away from things already established like Plageuis story. The Nightsisters in disney canon get so much screentime in side projects or a disgusting amount of powercreep its nuts. In Jedi Survivor they can teleport restore objects long since destroyed and time travel or alter time to bring things back from the past. Its a bit much i preferred it when the witches of Dathomir were basically the last skilled users of Sorcery both with and without the darkside depending on which clan it was.

Im all for different sects outside the jedi and sith getting some love/light on how they work and what makes them unique, the Matukai being literal monks and taking the aspect of control of ones body to its extreme was cool, same thing with how the Jal Shey try to treat the force less from a religious/philosophical angle and more of a scientific edge. Giving them access to things the jedi and sith might not be as well versed in is fine i've always been of the mindset the force can do just about anything depending on the user, circumstances of use and how willing/receptive the force itself is to your attempts (Even when Plageuis tried to dominate and shift the balance of the force it fought back and spawned Anakin as a countermeasure or the cases where a sith using sorcery goes wrong having disastrous consequences.)

You're dealing with people making excuses, not people who argue logic and facts the way it's traditionally argued with evidence. They're making excuses for dunking on the old canon and upholding the new one, so everything that's old gets tarred and feathered while everything new gets a pass or gets praised. This isn't the first time I've seen it, and with the way Disney SW fans act, it won't be the last. Especially with fans of Dave Filoni. Unlike Tony Gilroy who respects the SWEU, Filoni sees both it and the new Disney canon as something he can stomp all over just to tell the story he wants; like how he altered Kanan Jarrus' origin story with the Bad Batch being present, when in reality, they weren't present in his original comic.

I just dont understand how the mentality works that altering the story for a wider audiance somehow makes it better. Dave filoni has a long history of ignore lore, subverting the rules other writers were given by george back in the old day. The simping for Ahsoka is the most nuts thing, from her being nigh invincible, cheating death 3 times more or less, her beating people in fights completely out of her league or matching them (destroying Maul with little to no struggle someone whose killed Masters that could easily destroy Ahsoka, Surviving Grevious several times, and later on matching Vader in a duel and having him limp away from it) alongside her being shown as better than most jedi of her era both in skill and moral superiority. I didnt even hate her originally growing up watching TCW, i thought she was alright (a few issues with her plot armor but nothing that made me hate her) and even early on in Rebels when she "died" to Vader. It was a good way for her story to end, dying to her fallen master who she abandoned trying to either end him or save him (somehow).

Not even they won. I made a post at least a year ago about how Sidious won in Disney canon and taught the galaxy that only through power do you win.

It’s now a grimdark galaxy of viciously violent warlords

I'd fucking laugh my ass off if Disney ever had the balls to actually make a grimdark style interpretation of Star Wars, i heard that Andor had some cyberpunk/dystopian themes/aesthetic to it but i refuse to believe its anything more than surface level to make people think its for """mature""" audiences.

I use to run TTRPG games set post ROTJ about the Warlords trying to secure their regions or fade into the unknown region to reconsolidate, mixing elements of larger military campaigns for players that wanted to aid/fight the Imperials. Star Wars as a universe can have these things and that was the benefit of it being a galaxy wide franchise. While the heroes and the more noble and altruistic themes and core is shown and alters the majority of the galaxy at large, on the outskirts or in certain planets things differ greatly, based off what a smart group of writers want to do and it doesnt have to fuck up other writers works or the main movies, and can even build off it.

If you feel like watching star wars today Remember to watch the despecialized edition, 4k77 80 83, the 2006 limited edition DVD or the THX vhs set. Even if you're the laziest nigger around you can spend the 10 minutes searching the sea and just downloading it to your phone and casting it to enjoy the actual movie and not the salad lovers retarded bullshit "true vision"

The only real way to watch the originals, i dont get the reasons why they add extra shit in the new disney edits. Greddo saying "Maklunkey" before getting fried makes the scene funny, the first time i saw the scene like that i burst out laughing not expecting it, kinda kills the scene

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Japanese artwork

Were these official?

 

[JayseeDenton]

I know it has been said to death but fuck me disney's alien designs are so consistently piss ugly


And that's in the few times non humans even appear. Andor might actually be the worst offender of this yet, 99% of characters everywhere they go are humans and at least half are mystery meat. I can't remember the last time i saw a rodian, twilek, weequay, gran, or any of the classics.

Anyways saw episode 4 of andor. The shit with the guy going undercover is all i really care about. The isb is okay. Mon monthma is boring, saul is a boring character who i didn't care to see again and andor's story is gay. I don't care about this cunts ptsd or reservations or any of that shit, having few scenes about this in star wars was nice but entire story arcs? Fuck off.

And damn it bitch stop making this fucking face,


find a new fucking face to make you annoying bitch, this goes for all modern actresses. I don't know what you hos think this expression conveys but it's just obnoxious at this point, show a human emotion for the love of god. You're an actress, act.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

To celebrate Star Wars day, I played through KOTOR 2's Nar Shaddaa segment after kicking the shit out of Atris' Handmaidens. It's so funny that people act like Andor was the first time we saw Star Wars plebians live their lives, when the KOTOR games perfected that over 20 years ago, and no one noticed because most of these Hollywood journos don't play video games.

As an exiled Jedi, you had to work your way to gain the notoriety of the gangs and get an audience with the gang leaders who put a bounty on your head, and that means anything from winning a card game to slaughtering entire gang strongholds. Slaughtering three HK-50s with a trashcan droid and rescuing yourself from G0-T0's clutches were the highlights of the level, as is figuring out that G0-T0 is on your ship, and how to make your entire crew into Jedi. By the time I headed to Dantooine, I had more Jedi than I had lightsabers.

Then I capped it off with Order 66 from the perspective of the EP3 video game and the classic Battlefront II. It at least gives the Jedi their last hurrah before getting snuffed out better than the films; where we just see the Jedi get killed by the 501st and the younglings get killed by Vader, which was one of the few scenes in ROTS that just felt pointless, when Palpatine would've likely turned those kids into future Dark Jedi spies or some shit. This time, Anakin has to fight through an entire legion of Jedi, some of whom have a decent chance of killing him.

Then I capped it off with BF2's Tantive IV level and the Death Star duel between Kenobi and Vader in the EP3 game's bonus missions. Aside from the fact that it was once again, vintage Star Wars, combining the movies and video games to make a great experience, I noted how a lot of post-ROTS content paid tribute to ANH as a way to go full-circle. Even the original Lego Star Wars game had a level on Tantive IV which you wreck as Darth Vader.

Im not inherently against the idea if its somewhat how you describe, to even try it you need to be of a certain power level to give it a try. If your not at that threshold its literally out of your grasp. Palpatine was capable of it or implied to through the Plageuis novel its just that he couldn't risk Plageuis mastering and perfecting his own immortality because he didnt trust Plageuis to share that with him as well as he'd be unstoppable if he could do it. But when writers make it so theres little to no consequence and theres a dozen different ways to do it then it becomes less compelling and takes away from things already established like Plageuis story. The Nightsisters in disney canon get so much screentime in side projects or a disgusting amount of powercreep its nuts. In Jedi Survivor they can teleport restore objects long since destroyed and time travel or alter time to bring things back from the past. Its a bit much i preferred it when the witches of Dathomir were basically the last skilled users of Sorcery both with and without the darkside depending on which clan it was.

Palpatine couldn't do it for shit. Even though Plagueis taught him everything. Palpatine just wasn't strong enough to match Plagueis, so he had to kill the guy in his sleep, and he couldn't raise the dead like his master could, hence why he tried to get Anakin to join him, because Anakin probably could do it with the right guidance.

I just dont understand how the mentality works that altering the story for a wider audiance somehow makes it better. Dave filoni has a long history of ignore lore, subverting the rules other writers were given by george back in the old day. The simping for Ahsoka is the most nuts thing, from her being nigh invincible, cheating death 3 times more or less, her beating people in fights completely out of her league or matching them (destroying Maul with little to no struggle someone whose killed Masters that could easily destroy Ahsoka, Surviving Grevious several times, and later on matching Vader in a duel and having him limp away from it) alongside her being shown as better than most jedi of her era both in skill and moral superiority. I didnt even hate her originally growing up watching TCW, i thought she was alright (a few issues with her plot armor but nothing that made me hate her) and even early on in Rebels when she "died" to Vader. It was a good way for her story to end, dying to her fallen master who she abandoned trying to either end him or save him (somehow).

Usually, the "wider audience" means a dumber audience. The kind of audience that screamed at the Prequels because of the politics getting in the way of the action. The kind of audience that wanted dumbed-down good-vs-evil with nothing else. Hence why the Separatists and the Empire became stupid evil, as opposed to the former having good intentions warped by evil means, and the latter desiring order above all else, whether or not they had to do good or evil.

As for Ahsoka, she's been Sue'd up to the point where even Starkiller or Darth Nihilus are less Sue-ish than her, because at least Starkiller gets his butt handed to him plenty of times, and Nihilus' power is outright killing him from within.

find a new fucking face to make you annoying bitch, this goes for all modern actresses. I don't know what you hos think this expression conveys but it's just obnoxious at this point, show a human emotion for the love of god. You're an actress, act.

It's the "Strong Woman" face, they have to do it to show that the girl is tough.

 

[JayseeDenton]

To celebrate Star Wars day, I played through KOTOR 2's Nar Shaddaa segment after kicking the shit out of Atris' Handmaidens.

Weird coincidence, i started a playthrough last week for the first time in about 8 years. I'm doing dxun first because i like to get candyman asap. Got bodied by the handmaidens though because i'm doing a dual blaster counsular build so i have no strength

It's really jarring going between kotor 2 and andor like this. The main things that stand out are
A: The complete lack of aliens in andor
B: Everything in andor looks so downtrodden and dusty. In the old EU even the slums and frontline encampments were very futuristic and tech driven.

It's so funny that people act like Andor was the first time we saw Star Wars plebians live their lives, when the KOTOR games perfected that over 20 years ago

The amount of things plebs claim disney was the "first" of something that the EU did better could fill several libraries. But frankly, years before kotor even the phantom menace game did a great job of this.
https://youtu.be/Uv0SvDMfd_Q?t=6765
The main thing that made me want get kotor 1 when i saw my friend playing it was that the dialogue system and city segments reminded me of being quigon in mos espa.

Also star wars galactic battleground's campaign had a good overview of what civilian settlements were like, and the bounty hunter game had a decent window into it all. And we haven't even brought up star wars galaxies.... man what a feeling of life that game had.

Aside from the fact that it was once again, vintage Star Wars, combining the movies and video games to make a great experience,

I used to do this sort of thing in middle school when the vidya was at its peak. I would play galactic battlegrounds for a bit, then play battlefront parenting it was the same battle, then play jedi outcast pretending to be on a stealth mission within that battle, then play kotor or galaxies pretending to be on leave from the army. There really were so many good fucking sw games back then you could cover an entire world with it.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Weird coincidence, i started a playthrough last week for the first time in about 8 years. I'm doing dxun first because i like to get candyman asap. Got bodied by the handmaidens though because i'm doing a dual blaster counsular build so i have no strength

I save Dxun for last. Candyman aside, I wait until I've gotten full upgrades across the board; there's a lot of good loot from Dxun and Onderon if you're high-level and the difficulty is set to maximum. I once nabbed TWO Freddon Nadd pistols even though it's supposed to be a unique item; my Sith Lord uses them as his backup weapons when he's not using his lightsaber.

It's really jarring going between kotor 2 and andor like this. The main things that stand out are
A: The complete lack of aliens in andor
B: Everything in andor looks so downtrodden and dusty. In the old EU even the slums and frontline encampments were very futuristic and tech driven.

That's because they're emphasizing how everyone else is poor because of the Empire. When in reality, the Empire was one big fat make-work scheme; people are given jobs as bureaucrats, shipbuilders, soldiers, etc.. So if anything, people should have more capital in their pockets. Unless they're enslaving the planet, I'd expect Imperial rule to be tidy, organized, and clean, to the point where it becomes oppressive. (ie. They throw you in prison for littering on the street or not cleaning up after your dog takes a shit.)

The amount of things plebs claim disney was the "first" of something that the EU did better could fill several libraries. But frankly, years before kotor even the phantom menace game did a great job of this.
https://youtu.be/Uv0SvDMfd_Q?t=6765

The Phantom Menace game was fucking hilarious when you play it as a psychopath. The amount of people you can kill, including named characters, makes Fallout New Vegas and Morrowind blush.

The main thing that made me want get kotor 1 when i saw my friend playing it was that the dialogue system and city segments reminded me of being quigon in mos espa.

Taris was Baby's First Coruscant for me when it came to video games. It was quite breathtaking just to look and survey the place. The only other place I saw like it when I was young was High Charity in Halo 2. Such marvels of high-tech engineering. I always thought we'd be living in places like that by the time the 2020s hit.

Also star wars galactic battleground's campaign had a good overview of what civilian settlements were like, and the bounty hunter game had a decent window into it all. And we haven't even brought up star wars galaxies.... man what a feeling of life that game had.

Galactic Battlegrounds showed me the logistics of setting up farming communities and military bases, while Bounty Hunter showed me how being a bounty hunter can end with you arresting all sorts of people, from escaped slaves, to gangsters, even corrupt cops and soldiers. Galaxies was our answer to WoW.

I used to do this sort of thing in middle school when the vidya was at its peak. I would play galactic battlegrounds for a bit, then play battlefront parenting it was the same battle, then play jedi outcast pretending to be on a stealth mission within that battle, then play kotor or galaxies pretending to be on leave from the army. There really were so many good fucking sw games back then you could cover an entire world with it.

Exactly. Star Wars was a genre of its own when it came to gaming; you can have one battle be portrayed by five different games giving you different points of view. It goes to show how Lucasarts, and by extension, Lucasfilm, cared for the fans.

Hoth, for instance, was almost like an Alamo-style holdout against overwhelming forces for the Rebels, but for the Empire, it's like a costly slog where you have to be careful what assets to use to break through the Rebel defenses. I remember having a trying time with both Rebel and Imperial versions of it.

I remember how hard it was in Galactic Battlegrounds, getting the Blizzard Force walkers into position to pound the shield generator and the ion cannon while using the other units to protect the walkers.

But I also remember the Rebel Strike version where you play as the fleeing Rebels, and the Imperials fucking go full STEEL RAIN on your ass when your transports try to leave and the Empire tosses like a thousand TIE Fighters/Interceptors your way, with some TIE Bombers sneaking in amongst them to target your transports; and as the chaos of the battle goes on, you can't save them all, and while you're trying to shoot down some TIE Bomber, another one of your transports explodes and their pilot screams in agony.

Now THAT was a real battle. Chaos, death, and nonstop, pulse-pounding action. It gave you the feeling of fighting an unstoppable force that was set to crush you like a bug.

It goes to show how much Lucasarts and Lucasfilm cared about the fans back then. The companies that they farmed out to make SW games made sure to create quality products. Nowadays, we're lucky to get a Battlefield/Dark Souls derivative SW game.

 

[Adamska]

the Hidden Path

Nice Kenobi suicide note reference. Definitely a smart decision to decide to show just how non-canon this slop all is by referencing the show that was probably the death blow for this IP in terms of people giving a shit.

Also a very excellent reminder for those who still want to try and pretend Dave totally isn't fine with ruining critical original characters in favor of his slop that they're full of shit. Never forget that Dave also was supportive of Luke being a broken down old man.

He's totally not just desperately dumpster-diving into old scripts again, this time probably the shit that never got worked on from both Kenobi/Rebels due to their fucktarded time management.

Trump just made a better Star Wars product than anything Disney has ever done. If they were smart, they'd make it canon and give him an action figure.

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1919053040734072844?t=6qSupBInqytgY6kf2M2UKg&s=19

I actually think this is gayer than the spoken out closed captions bits from the acolyte that goes into how the unlikeable non-character wanted to fuck the sith guy personally.

I don't see how this is any better than when the rat tries to shove message down my throat other than other tribe is doing it. They even chose to do it on Rat Day rather than the Real Day.

The Cad Bane's episode was alright. Cad Bane isn't his real name but was once named Colby. Bane has a former friend from childhood named Niro, who eventually married Arin, who was once in a relationship with Cad, and soon became a new marshal after the death of the old one at the hands of Bane. Arin sired her and Bane's son named Issac.

All this does is make me find him even less interesting tbh.

At this point, Dave retconning the Witches of Dathomir into actual witches may be the most consequential bit of lore defilement in any version of canon.

If I don't acknowledge or accept the Ewok movie for using magic (and that shit got retconned into force usage mind you), I sure as hell won't accept the reverse retconning of the Dathomiri method of force manipulation into magic.

Reminder Dave actually states Talzin isn't a force sensitive as she blasts out electricity spheres, and if I remember right, this was during the stretch of show that George was still sort of plugged in. That totally amazing show has that as a line.

They also are retarded enough to say that the Dathomiri method of Bogan use is okay; it's only the Sith that corrupt the force. Fucking lol.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Ventress not being able to beat the Inquisitor reminds me of all those noobs who play KOTOR while leveling up the wrong stats, and they get totally creamed by the Dark Jedi fights in Tatooine or Kashyyyk. The fact that they did this with Ventress, a Dark Jedi who has gone up against Kenobi and Anakin, and lived to tell the tale about it, either they're trying to redeem the Inquisitors by making them retroactively stronger because people see them as losers, or the writers have forgotten how strong Ventress is. I'm willing to go with the former, although the latter is also possible.

Also, that Jedi kid blurting out the word "Jedi" in the open while Stormtroopers are patrolling the place is just asking for a blaster bolt to the back of the head. At least when Tay started blurting out the word "Rebellion" and "Rebel activity" in a wedding where Imperial officers were present, Luthen moved quickly to have him terminated, because saying those words can get the attention of the Empire, and would bring the heat down on you.

It would've been nicer if their job with that bounty hunter chick and that robot succeeded, and it turned out that Bail hired them to get schematics on the Star Destroyers that he'd pass on to other Rebel cells, to give them a heads-up on what they'll be fighting.

Nice Kenobi suicide note reference. Definitely a smart decision to decide to show just how non-canon this slop all is by referencing the show that was probably the death blow for this IP in terms of people giving a shit.

Also a very excellent reminder for those who still want to try and pretend Dave totally isn't fine with ruining critical original characters in favor of his slop that they're full of shit. Never forget that Dave also was supportive of Luke being a broken down old man.

He's totally not just desperately dumpster-diving into old scripts again, this time probably the shit that never got worked on from both Kenobi/Rebels due to their fucktarded time management.

Not to mention that nothing comes from the Path. OK, so we've got at least a dozen or more Jedi surviving Order 66 using this Jedi ratline. So what happens to them? Does Vader hunt them down at a later date? Do the Inquisitors go full Rains of Castamere on them at some hidden fortress? Do they just hang up their lightsabers and be broken-down losers a la TLJ Luke? These Jedi do not show up in later shows. Not in Andor, Rebels, The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, Ahsoka, Bad Batch, and they're definitely dead in the Sequels. So what did this plotline accomplish?

This is the problem with Filoni jumping all over the place, he's gone full GRRM and not adhering to a proper story arc. Dude hates being constrained by previous lore, and by trampling all over it, be it SWEU or Disney Canon lore, he devalues the consistency of the SW universe.

At least Tony Gilroy respects both the old SWEU and the new canon enough to pretend like there's a consistent narrative. Filoni doesn't even care to try.

Reminder Dave actually states Talzin isn't a force sensitive as she blasts out electricity spheres, and if I remember right, this was during the stretch of show that George was still sort of plugged in. That totally amazing show has that as a line.

That makes no fucking sense; Talzin is basically a female Darth Nihilus, but on a smaller scale; she was trying to absorb Force energy from the Bardottans to empower herself so she can shoot green lightning beams and erect Force energy barriers.

They also are retarded enough to say that the Dathomiri method of Bogan use is okay; it's only the Sith that corrupt the force. Fucking lol.

This is because you have the feminist-occultist crap that's infiltrated kids' media these days. Trying to make demon-summoning witches look good, as if there's nothing wrong with it. We've already seen it with the Acolyte where witches who Darth Plagueis their way to procreation are portrayed as innocent victims of the Jedi. They twist the Force to create life unnaturally, yet we're supposed to root for them.

At least Bayonetta had the honesty to say that kind of shit is probably gonna end with you roasting in hell once your demonic friends got their end of the bargain.

These people are fucking insane in real life. The fact that Star Wars is in their hands just boggles the mind. Especially when you consider the kind of people who used to be involved with Star Wars. Lucas was clearly in line with devout Christians, Hebrews, as well as Buddhists, who don't look kindly upon such occult nonsense. Count Dooku himself, Christopher Lee, stated that getting involved with the occult will end with you losing your mind and soul, and I fully believe him.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

And they were right to cut it out because that scene is boring as fuck. I get flashbacks of the lame "trade routes" plot line from Episode 1.

there's a similar bit where you get to see the cracks of Episode 1 get smoothed over in the editing suite in this spot

david prowse did nothing wrong

 

[GlupShitto]

The difference is that Trump doesn't promote a life of degeneracy. He promotes goodness and morals. Anyone who can't see that is lost and should be taken out back and shot because they're incompatible with American ideals and the future of our great nation.

But I bet you loved it when the dyke parents showed up in skeleton Crew.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

I don't think what's left of the Republic/Resistance would have the resources to do that. More than likely, whatever factions will emerge will just use what First Order/Final Order hardware they get their hands on to establish their own regimes. Saw Gerrera's nightmare of having several different factions with no real unifying goal or endgame becomes a reality. No Empire, no Republic, no Jedi to keep them in check. Like I said, the Galaxy Partitionists and the Separatists get the last laugh, since in such a climate, their ideology will rule supreme, and whatever remnants of the Empire/First Order or the Resistance/Republic will have little to no power left.

I’m not thinking that the ROL is the dominate power in the galaxy. It’s one of many factions that remains in such a fucked up galaxy.

Petty kingdoms from First Order remnants. The Red Order; the Sith version of the Dirlewanger Brigade. The human core worlds isolating themselves as a decadent French Empire. The Hutts blast themselves apart in civil war after several clans get their hands on some Xyston Star Destroyer technology. The Golden Empire of Xim Reborn. The Enlightenment of Mggnal-Mggnal.

A rising force cult (often at war with the Blessed Necrowitches) is called the Nif’loi, an ancient Bogan term translated as Wolf-Blooded or Wolf-Tainted. This warrior cult is able to unlock force abilities through repeated emotional trauma and failure, as the progenitor of the cult once learned through the teachings of her Force Goddess.

 

[Adamska]

The difference is that Trump doesn't promote a life of degeneracy. He promotes goodness and morals. Anyone who can't see that is lost and should be taken out back and shot because they're incompatible with American ideals and the future of our great nation.

But I bet you loved it when the dyke parents showed up in skeleton Crew.

Imagine getting so mad at someone pointing out that you're being a genuine faggot thirsting after something that wouldn't be out of place in the Acolyte you have to make up things about your target like a retard or a drug addict. I criticized Skeleton Crew and called it the least creative coming of age series ever in this thread. I did not like it.

I also remember having to explain clearly how the fat alien kid was playing the cowardly fat kid trope since you are such a spastic you screeched he represented whitey since you didn't even understand the medium that it was soullessly copying from.

It's not melanin levels or organs that explain why this IP is now lame, dead, and gay. It's fucktastic writing made by contemptuous fucks who are both malicious and incompetent. If it was purely melanin, you'd had chimped out and ditched the moment Lando tried to BBC Han by making the moves on Leia.

If it was politics, you should've ditched the moment that the Viet Cong, err, Ewoks, managed to defeat the evil US Military-Industrial combine run by a Nixon stand in. And that's not purely me saying it; George's own metrics compared the more villainous factions in his series to the GOP constantly, given that he referenced Nixon and Bush when relating to Palpatine, and the Trade Federation's viceroy was literally named after Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich.

It's the bad writing, cuntish actors who can't elevate it, bad direction, cowardly inability to try things new, fucktastically incompetent production, fuckawful time and resource management, and more that makes this stuff suck. That's the problem.

 

[BullfrogBill]

It's insane to me that George checking in on the development of some random DS tie in game resulted in this multigenerational lore rape by him, his daughter, Filoni, EA, Disney, Kathleen Kennedy, and basically anyone else who's touched them ever since. I like a lot of TCW, but that team fucking with EU concepts and turning them to coal makes my blood boil.

Remember that Dave Filoni said that the Expanded Universe is "fan fiction" and "not real Star Wars" and that his shows are the real deal. Nevermind the fact that 90% of the concepts in his shows are just ripped right from the Expanded Universe but without any real understanding of what he is stealing and ruining the concepts.

 

[Adamska]

By the way, found the bit where Talzin claims she's not a natural force wielder, since I do think it's one of the greatest moments of stupidity in the Clone Wars, which is saying a lot given how they kept trying to have the Jedi almost figure out about Order 66, and given how dumb they made the CIS command look.

It's in the episode where Windu and Jar-Jar team up to save his girlfriend that alien queen, so thankfully George Lucas was checked out I think when it got belted.

"It may help you to know however that I am not a natural force wielder like the Jedi or the Sith."

She tries to then say it's dark magic, and I guess the cope is that it's her understanding of the force, but nope. She doesn't use the force when she shits out lightning or makes voodoo dolls that have galactic range.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

 

[Dave The Diver]

there's a similar bit where you get to see the cracks of Episode 1 get smoothed over in the editing suite in this spot

Thank you for tagging me. That deleted scene is really interesting and well written... except for a completely different movie that focuses on the workings of a dictator seizing reigns of power by uh.... using an army of specially made clones.

Was a bit sad to see the audience crack up at one of Vader's best one liners, but maybe it's because that was Prowse's undubbed voice.

BTW, in that other thread @ghastlyretard implied there were spoilers around who murdered Luke's parents. I can't find anything on this question so if anyone can spoil the secret/theory for me I'd appreciate it!

The difference is that Trump doesn't promote a life of degeneracy. He promotes goodness and morals.

We're just humble moisture farmers here. Please go back to your containment thread...

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

hank you for tagging me. That deleted scene is really interesting and well written... except for a completely different movie that focuses on the workings of a dictator seizing reigns of power by uh.... using an army of specially made clones.

It's not bad for sure, it reminds me of the extended versions of scenes in the Radio Drama, but yeah, when you see it dragged all the way out TPM's "okay, now lets stop, and talk about trade disputes" doesn't come from out of left field as much
also I'm pretty sure the deaths of Luke's mom and dad are pretty clearly documented on-screen, but I'm guessing that's meaning his uncle and aunt
I don't know of anything either as an EU or a "there was a scene where" but it's nothing I've ever thought about
oooh wait I think I might know
domestic dispute gone EXPLOSIVE

whatcha gonna do
whatcha gonna do when they come for you

 

[BigBadBastich]

Remember that Dave Filoni said that the Expanded Universe is "fan fiction" and "not real Star Wars" and that his shows are the real deal. Nevermind the fact that 90% of the concepts in his shows are just ripped right from the Expanded Universe but without any real understanding of what he is stealing and ruining the concepts.

I don't get why he and Kathleen Kennedy or so many others do this superfluous narrative of shitting on the EU while taking ideas, characters, planets, entire fucking narratives from it to pass as their own. I would rather you just hate the EU and come up with something retarded than do discount Jacen Solo or Ezra Miller going to Malachor a place from KOTOR 2. Was the EU perfect? Fuck no, but it was ours and even if something mediocre came out it had things you loved. The least they could do is acknowledge that, if their pride allowed them to.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I don't get why he and Kathleen Kennedy or so many others do this superfluous narrative of shitting on the EU while taking ideas, characters, planets, entire fucking narratives from it to pass as their own. I would rather you just hate the EU and come up with something retarded than do discount Jacen Solo or Ezra Miller going to Malachor a place from KOTOR 2. Was the EU perfect? Fuck no, but it was ours and even if something mediocre came out it had things you loved. The least they could do is acknowledge that, if their pride allowed them to.

Because it's PR. They do something stupid, then justify it later with some nonsense that they trick themselves and others into believing. Then when shit hits the fan, they pop by the EU cookie jar to steal some ideas.

You're trying to think of things logically; that is not how Corporate America works. They think that since they have the wealth and power, they have the right to decide, damn the truth and its consequences. So they shitcan the SWEU and they print out propaganda about how the SWEU was disorganized and messy, and that it needed to be tossed away. Then they have the proles repeat that message until it becomes the normie narrative.

Then when shit hits the fan, they start making compromises to get people back, like how they used Prequel nostalgia and EU nostalgia to get people back with Season 7 of TCW, the Bad Batch, the Tales series, Andor, Ahsoka, Kenobi, and the Mandalorian. Such a strategy feels so out-of-touch, so haphazard, it'd have been cheaper to keep most of the SWEU canon while trimming a few things down. But such is how they act; they've been so used to being at the top that they barely give a shit about doing what's right, so long as they line their pockets.

 

[Dave The Diver]

Yoda trains Luke in the Way of Terrorism so that he can destroy the Empire's program of tolerance and national healthcare

The Empire Strikes Back But VADER Is The Good Guy