Alcoholism Support Thread - Down the hatch

[Burger Kong]

I have two alcoholics in my family. I asked one, "Why do you drink? What does it do for you?" and he explained that it stops him from dreaming.

If you drink to the point of getting blackout drunk then yes you probably won't experience dreams. However if you drink to the point you're going through withdrawals one of the often ignored results of that is that you tend to have nightmares.

Results may vary of course but when I tend to go through withdrawals, nightmares tend to be a common part of it.

 

[Sparkletor 2.0]

You have my sympathy, man. It's a constant battle. I'm taking Naltrexone (from Oar Health, all online) and it's been a great help. I didn't drink at all last weekend, and haven't had a drink today, even though it's Cinco De Drinko. Good luck.

The doctor gave me Naltrexone and told me it would make me stop drinking because it makes it so you don't get the desired effect from drinking. That quickly led to me drinking twice as much. It didn't work because I still wanted to get drunk. I needed to really want to stop drinking in order to actually stop drinking.

 

[Cheesy Beavy]

I'm just going to say I'm here for it and appreciate the thread. Got linked to it. Kiwi isn't a totally bad place to be.

 

[Second Alter Ego]

Man I tried to skip booze today and just have soda and I woke up at fucking 3am shaking like a fucking leaf and so anxious my fucking heart felt like it was going to stop
Fucking hell man

 

[Cheesy Beavy]

and just have soda

Another alcoholic I knew did sparkling water. That's perhaps better than soda.

I woke up at fucking 3am shaking like a fucking leaf and so anxious my fucking heart felt like it was going to stop
Fucking hell man

Heart goes out to you bro. I'm with you. I don't think I'm that bad but I don't want to get that bad.

 

[Second Alter Ego]

Another alcoholic I knew did sparkling water. That's perhaps better than soda.

Heart goes out to you bro. I'm with you. I don't think I'm that bad but I don't want to get that bad.

Had to fucking get up and start chugging something NOW NOW NOW fuck this shit I fucking hate myself do not fucking do this to yourself

 

[Cheesy Beavy]

Had to fucking get up and start chugging something NOW NOW NOW fuck this shit I fucking hate myself do not fucking do this to yourself

I don’t want to say to much as it’s the farms of all places but my heart goes out to you. My DM’s are open if you need me. I don’t want to end up feeling like I HAVE to have a drink and that’s a horrible spot to be brother.

Don’t hate yourself. I’m sure several of us could have and have been in a similar positions. Much love.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Man I tried to skip booze today and just have soda and I woke up at fucking 3am

All that sugar and probably caffeine is keeping you up. Try either sparkling water or, if you really need flavour, there are soft drinks that have very low carbs and taste good. NOT "diet" drinks.

 

[Second Alter Ego]

All that sugar and probably caffeine is keeping you up. Try either sparkling water or, if you really need flavour, there are soft drinks that have very low carbs and taste good. NOT "diet" drinks.

I jsut stried to have 1 soda drinkiong it very slpow so I coule have just something to sip omn that was bubbly instead of mixing ist wih anyting an s dsinte d I am fucking wasted lol just rtrying to calm down I am suc h an enormous fucking retard I fuckignf hate myself I am such a fuck up I cnt fcingk do anything right I jhsyt get fucking wasted nbeftor work and klsdj fs lkafjfdsaklgkkjlgkjlggfdsjkfdjkhghghghg fuck me I want to die fucking lmao

 

[Jerk Sausage]

I imagine you're talking about the actual drinking but I'd like to point out that withdrawals also tend to get progressively worse the more you go through them. It's called "kindling":

A lot of people aren't aware that this is a thing.

Everything progressed.

• The anger, depression, anxiety, stress levels before/after drinking. I was not an angry person for the majority of my life but became a major asshole to anyone I could be at the end of drinking.
• The frequency of drinking.
• The insanity of thoughts and actions while drunk.

My withdrawal symptoms I didn't give much attention to at the time but they were pretty severe and definitely getting worse over time.

• Weakness of muscles, especially my legs shaking going up and down stairs.
• Vomiting episodes going longer and longer.
• Impaired short term memory, repeating myself in conversation.
• Tremors and constant nightmares.
• Super high blood pressure and resting heart rate.
• Closed eye hallucinations. I'd constantly see my work chat whenever I closed my eyes for a day or two after ceasing a binge.

fuck me I want to die fucking lmao

All of my conceptions of what was right for me and what other people need to do brought me to near death. I was so convinced I was intelligent and had all the right answers to justify my actions. If I was so righteous yet foolish enough to think alcohol was my best friend that alleviated all my woes, why did I continue following it after I had clear evidence it would only lead me to death?

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

I jsut stried to have 1 soda drinkiong it very slpow so I coule have just something to sip omn that was bubbly instead of mixing ist wih anyting an s dsinte d I am fucking wasted lol just rtrying to calm down I am suc h an enormous fucking retard I fuckignf hate myself I am such a fuck up I cnt fcingk do anything right I jhsyt get fucking wasted nbeftor work and klsdj fs lkafjfdsaklgkkjlgkjlggfdsjkfdjkhghghghg fuck me I want to die fucking lmao

Drink water. Lots of water. You'll get over the GABA rebound in about 3 days. It is going to suck, and then it will suck less.

In a week you won't be sweating at night. In two weeks you'll stay enjoying things without alcohol again. In a month your whole body is going to be acting much more normally. Just stick with it.

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

I jsut stried to have 1 soda drinkiong it very slpow so I coule have just something to sip omn that was bubbly instead of mixing ist wih anyting an s dsinte d I am fucking wasted lol just rtrying to calm down I am suc h an enormous fucking retard I fuckignf hate myself I am such a fuck up I cnt fcingk do anything right I jhsyt get fucking wasted nbeftor work and klsdj fs lkafjfdsaklgkkjlgkjlggfdsjkfdjkhghghghg fuck me I want to die fucking lmao

Buy some GABA and L-Tyrosine. Drink electrolytes. Take a different route home from work, avoid the liquor store.

My liquor store is in view as soon as I go outside or on the balcony, it sucks.

 

[Jarl Varg]

Keep a supply of Altoid's or mints on hand. If you start feeling the urge, start eating them. Guaranteed to make anything you drink taste horrible.

 

[Burger Kong]

My liquor store is in view as soon as I go outside or on the balcony, it sucks.

Nowadays you don't even need to leave your home to get more alcohol. With apps like Ubereats you can get it delivered straight to your home. On one hand this is pretty bad because it helps support alcoholism. On the other hand a lot of those alcoholics were probably going to buy it anyway and it's probably for the best they weren't drunk driving to the liquor store.

So it's a bit of a moral conundrum. On the surface helping these alcoholics get more alcohol and kill themselves seems like a terrible thing. However if doing this means you're stopping them from drunk driving, getting DUIs and potentially running over innocent people is the more moral thing to bring alcohol to their place to prevent any of that from happening?

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

Nowadays you don't even need to leave your home to get more alcohol. With apps like Ubereats you can get it delivered straight to your home. On one hand this is pretty bad because it helps support alcoholism. On the other hand a lot of those alcoholics were probably going to buy it anyway and it's probably for the best they weren't drunk driving to the liquor store.

So it's a bit of a moral conundrum. On the surface helping these alcoholics get more alcohol and kill themselves seems like a terrible thing. However if doing this means you're stopping them from drunk driving, getting DUIs and potentially running over innocent people is the more moral thing to bring alcohol to their place to prevent any of that from happening?

I've used those apps when it was 1:55am and I wasn't about to rush to the store. Then again normal people buy enough to last them at least for the day or week. Those wine aunts get their half gallon of wine and fuck off for a few days, and there's people who go back multiple times a day.

 

[Nigger Respecter]

Alright I’m about to talk about how psilocybin helped me out

Since covid I’ve been a drunk. I had some shitty habits before then but losing my job a week after it started just ramped it into overdrive. For five years it’s been many many cycles of drinking like an asshole, trying to stop, then getting back into it. And it’s not just the drinking, it’s the hiding, the scheming, the shame, the money wasted, the weight gain, the embarrassment of it all. Never thought I’d get out of it. Even tried the naltrexone thing but that just made me feel like absolute death

So a little while ago, I went to a friend’s to hang out. There were gonna be some drinks so it was an easy decision. Well another friend showed up with some mushrooms, which I haven’t done in a long ass time (10+ years). Well I ate those suckers cause why not, and I proceeded to have a very eye-opening trip. It was very introspective as they typically are, and I thought a lot about booze and how shameful my behavior has been. A notable moment was when I was holding a beer during this trip and could physically feel the “poison” flowing through my veins. I was disgusted

Next day, I tossed out the secret bottle of bourbon I had tucked away. Since then, not once have I even had a small craving for booze. And my mood in general has been fantastic. I feel normal. As normal as I can be, anyway

Not only that, but I’ve actually gone out to meet friends for drinks twice since the. First time I had one beer and didn’t like it. Second time I had two beers and was totally fine with just that. Didn’t need to get more the bar, didn’t feel any compulsion whatsoever to get more on the way home. I was literally just drinking beer because I was in a normal social setting and that was totally fine. Crazy shit

You can find many stories like this online. Mushrooms are a gift from God. If you are struggling with alcohol, give them a shot. Fuck, what’s the worst that could happen?

 

[Jerk Sausage]

I've had similar experiences with mushrooms and other hallucinogens, but the problem for me is that whatever the revelation/feeling given by them is fleeting, and doesn't carry into long term behavioral/habitual changes. It might follow me for a couple of days or weeks, but eventually without some constant driving discipline to follow, I fall back into the same shit. I've seen others try to form a micro-dosing or once-in-a-while habit of doing hallucinogens to constantly have those small benefits of mental shifts, and that's not a path I want or recommend.

For a mind in a constant spiral of despair, it can definitely break the cycle. But that cycle picks up where it left off if the root causes aren't addressed.

 

[Nigger Respecter]

I should have added that I am also microdosing and it’s been fantastic. I’m sure I could fall off the wagon at some point but I can’t predict the future and can only tell you what’s been working for me for a while now. Certainly been working better than anything else I’ve tried

 

[Second Alter Ego]

Um I drank a bunch of shit and passed out and when I woke up the world was covered in spiders for like half an hour how long do I have to live is that due to the liquid jew or something else, asking for a friend

 

[Jerk Sausage]

Um I drank a bunch of shit and passed out and when I woke up the world was covered in spiders for like half an hour how long do I have to live is that due to the liquid jew or something else, asking for a friend

If it's not the excessive liquid jew, then it'd be quite a coincidence that you started hallucinating spiders for no reason at all. Yes that's a "normal" side effect of severe alcohol abuse; Delirium Tremens. Were you hearing things that didn't exist as well? Bloody nose or blood in your vomit? Shaking and sweating? Welcome to the last level.
Personally, these kinds of things only cropped up in my last year of drinking. It goes away after a day or two (though the anxiety and self-loathing takes weeks), but the severity of these things just escalates from here until you stop or die.

If you look up the symptoms of DT and feel like you're on the severe side, it might be time to consider rehab/detox because this can be fatal. I'm lucky, not all are.