US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

The government knows who the kids are because they're all enrolled in school and they're all given school laptops.
Here's the simple solution: make the ID requirement... but only for kids.
If you want to access a computer as a kid, you need to use your student ID or school issued device.
Patents with school-age children can set it up as a authentication cerificicate required to log into Windows or use a phone, with a 2-factor authentication override for the parents so only the children need the ID.
When a student logs in using their cerificate, they only have access to a "sandbox" internet
and can only interact and see posts or websites created by those who are in a similar grade as them (unless otherwise approved). So little Tommy can't join a Discord where he'll get groomed, since from his perspective it would only ever have people around his own age.
Filters are implemented client-side, and learning about / setting up parental controls has one parent-teacher night per school year dedicated to setting this up and updating it for the school year.

This honestly would work better

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

whatever works for you trying to save face. I'm gracious like that.

This is not the own that you think it is. Congratulations on taking the disgusting "MUH LOLICON IS FREE SPEECH" line of argument, though.

I'd never call you a retard, bud! Well, maybe as banter...

You remind me of my younger self. I simply think you'll become more jaded as you become older, and you'll probably find the candle of your faith start to dim. Because you'll see the same shit happen, over and over again. The same kind of shitty people will continue to abuse that system, and they will rub your face in it, but only subtly. Just enough for you to pick up on, even if the midwits don't notice or care.

Because you can't legislate human nature away. And yet that has become the goal of government. But, like I said, I'm pretty jaded, and I honestly hope that candle continues to burn bright for you. And I hope the system can be restored to purity, I really do. I'm simply resigned to the fact that it wont. Because there are far more people who don't care and don't want to know. Nobody wants to know how the sausage is made so long as its tasty, ya know?

I am pushing 40. I'm not young. I used to be a lot more jaded as a young man, but then I realized that all the doomer shit was like sucking down a bottle to drown away my sorrows (I did that, too). Trump winning in 2024 is all the evidence I need that the system is working as intended.

 

[YarrBlueballs]

Sorry to disrupt your porn talk session butView attachment 7349514

If this is real then I want every faggot who posted MIGA oh yeah Trump totally will lick Israel's boots MAGA isn't real wah wah wah to be forced into a burger suit.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

If this is real then I want every faggot who posted MIGA oh yeah Trump totally will lick Israel's boots MAGA isn't real wah wah wah to be forced into a burger suit.

The number of doomer faggots who said "THEY'LL NEVER LET TRUMP WIN, THE WORLD IS MAGIC RUN BY MAGIC CABAL!" and never put on the burger suit is quite high as well.

 

[X Prime]

If this is real then I want every faggot who posted MIGA oh yeah Trump totally will lick Israel's boots MAGA isn't real wah wah wah to be forced into a burger suit.

MIGAcademics please respond!

 

[JustSomeDong]

I realized that all the doomer shit was like sucking down a bottle to drown away my sorrows (I did that, too).

You are absolutely correct, here! And I know I can still live my life well despite what is, and do so. I'm not a doomer, I think. I simply refuse to cloud my objectivity with optimism, because it never worked well for me. Yet, I honestly still hope for the whole gay space communism star trek future like a bloody fool, but you know that already from the trek thread, doncha? And while I think Gene was a rotten sonuvabitch of a person, he was probably deadly accurate on one very important thing:

Humanity will have to go through Hell before we mature enough to get there.

And I think we should all be ready to buckle up, cuz we've barely hit the onramp to the Highway to Hell. I may not have much hope for today or tomorrow or next week or even next decade, but I'll be damned if I don't have it at all.

 

[Tanuki Mixed Nuts]

Rights? The Constitution? Free speech? Internet loicense? Nah nah nah. It's a commerce issue. Watch this.

Operate a porn site (bespoke facilitation of media intended to titillate) on U.S. soil? Immediate revocation of the relevant TINs. Class A federal misdemeanor to fiduciaries and operators.

Commercial sale of the same media (furry porn artists and other sickos)? State-imposed fines and jailtime.

Oh, that won't do anything, they'll all move to states where it's tolerated, you say! EXACTLY RIGHT. Shuttle the coom out of at-risk states like Texas all the way back to California.

Vote me for Congress, I'll get your hand off your dick quick!

This is a retarded thing that already exists. Example would be PayPal can and will revoke your account and all funds on it if an invoice or account suggests it might be for "adult" "services", whether its a joke bag of dicks you send to someone or hardcore furry porn etc.

They use the same logic for how they have de-banked Null and the Farms. Its considered high risk or whatever and they just write it off that they are legally not forced to allow you to exchange money.

Assuming it is for a legal service/commodity there should be no reason a bank or service provider should be able to stop you from giving someone else money.

 

[Scrumption]

based off the books i read about it, it was primarily due to the church's practice of polygamy and the threat of Mormons being more loyal to the Church than to the usa. im not a scholar ofc.

i do think the argument in reynolds v. United States, 1879 about polygamy being a banned religious practice makes sense but why allow native americans to have an exemption to drug laws allowing them to have peyote or the endangered species act allowing them to have eagle feathers

The exceptions do not allow Native Americans to just go pluck feathers. The obtain them through the US government’s National Eagle Repository in the US fish and Wildlife Service. They receive dead eagles and distribute the feathers. They aren’t endangered any more.

As for peyote, the tribes obtain it in sustainable ways. The big threats to peyote are habitat loss, illegal poaching, and destruction by feral pigs. Habitat loss is the most significant of the three.

 

[ascension failure]

I don't trust the government to monitor Americans, but I do trust the ability of small bands of men with guns to deal with local sex weirdos.

 

[Nitro!]

Assuming it is for a legal service/commodity there should be no reason a bank or service provider should be able to stop you from giving someone else money.

Pornographers aren't people.

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

MIGA

MIGA

MIGA

MF's out here dragging my favorite Tex-Mex breakfast into this shit. I don't get it. Miga is some bomb ass food.

 

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What is up with libshits trying to obstruct ICE more and more.

Saw a video of one trying to stop an ICE paddy wagon by standing it front of it with her baby.

They just got their new slaves delivered and now the damned Republicans are taking them away, AGAIN. Of course they're resisting. Last time we had to start killing them in the streets to make them give them up.

IRL it was easy to cordon off sections of stores where the 'adult' material was on display and whatnot, but a similar approach to the internet is a tad more difficult. ISPs can block access to adult sites if you request it, but it's usually drawn from a list and doesn't encompass the entire internet, and it differs by ISP. And even on websites that should be safe (youtube, twitch, roblox, tiktok), people still try to skirt the edge of what's acceptable to show kids. If it's present on every square inch of the internet, then you'd need to basically restrict all of it, which considering this website is a pretty good news aggregate and banning its users from accessing it is in the interest of my government, I'm understandably conflicted on.

The argument that parents need to be better parents is one I find personally compelling. In the UK News thread, I also posited that parents don't want to hold the blame on themselves for why their kid became a fuck-up/murderer/whatever, and will often pin the blame on something/someone else in order to ease their own conscience. You see it all the time in America too "he a gud boy, he dindu nothin'", etcetera. Make parents more accountable, for starters, and make it acceptable to discuss the actual negative effects of porn (for now, how it might lead to one becoming trans is taboo) and you should see certain problems become mitigated.

Lets consider it this way.

If a parent allowed their child to walk the mall, and they went down to the adult bookstore, the parent would in good faith expect the bookstore to keep the kids out. There wouldn't be explicit porn posters on the outside windows. The rest of the mall is fine.

This is the "porn sites should verify age" argument. We've been going over this one for a while.

But consider that instead of allowing their kids to walk the mall unsupervised, they let their kids go run free in Harlem or Chicago. Is it safe? On paper, yes, but there's a lot of places those kids can get to that they shouldn't. Industrial sites, gang heavy places, red light districts, places with heavy traffic. Maybe adults in the area report a few kids running around unsupervised, the cops arrive, pick them up, find their parents for them. Their parents are off fucking about and have no idea where their kids are or what they're doing. The parents get fined for neglect, and they learn not to do that again. You fucked each other and a baby came out, deal with it -- it's not our responsibility to make sure everywhere in the world is safe for an unsupervised 3-8 year old.

This is the "kids unsupervised on the internet is child neglect" argument. And I think I actually prefer that, if only because it means I have less chance of having to interact with some Gen Alpha 12 year old online during my day to day life. But boy howdy could you imagine the thermonuclear assmad if you suggested, even briefly, that whores should take responsibility for the children they shat out? That maybe they can't live lives of 24x7 hedonism? I'm not sure society is ready for that.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

MF's out here dragging my favorite Tex-Mex breakfast into this shit. I don't get it. Miga is some bomb ass food.

Isn't this just another form of chilaquiles? Or is it different because it's bread and not tortillas?

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Isn't this just another form of chilaquiles? Or is it different because it's bread and not tortillas?

Chilaquiles = Mexican origin
Migas = Spanish origin.

Slight different flavors. And yes, you find stale bread OR tortillas used in Migas, It's so homogonized now it really doesn't matter though.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Massie is an antisemite but not because of his foreign aid policy which is standard lolbert shit. It's because he follows antisemites on twitter and refuses to meet with Jewish constituents.

For those not in the know, Massie didn't refuse to meet with Jewish constituents. He refused to meet with some clownish activist who wanted to drag him into a room and shout at him for sound bytes for the democrats to use against him, and Massie just told him to fuck off. Upon being told to fuck off the activist immediately started playing the Jewish Crocodile Tears card. "Buh buh buh, I'm one of god's chosen, you can't tell me no, you're a goyim! Oi vey, its annoda shoah!"

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Sorry to disrupt your porn talk session butView attachment 7349514

It’s a non statement, they’ve been trying to build what they can for a while. You can only do so much with the population they have.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Chilaquiles = Mexican origin
Migas = Spanish origin.

Slight different flavors. And yes, you find stale bread OR tortillas used in Migas, It's so homogonized now it really doesn't matter though.

We may not agree on ID requirements for porn sites, but I'm glad we agree on delicious food.

 

[mold]

gonna throw this in here: the question of how much weaponized psychosexual abuse material to tolerate in return for liberty and free speech is one issue and it is extremely legitimately difficult to make this call.

what should not be difficult however is solving the situation where in the US, children have far too much access to the internet where that material is, but it is difficult because our culture is toxic for families.

there is a reason the political discouse is 99% about kids and porn and barely a peep about everything else bad about internet access and kids, and it should be obvious but in case it's not: there are very powerful corporate and government interests who want a screen in every kid's face as many hours of the day as possible. they want the access to attention for advertising purposes and they also want the flowing fountain of educational tax dollars.

porn and free speech is an ideal political issue for careerist politicans because it's not solveable and endlessly generative of upsetting shit under our current legal framework (like abortion before dobbs). actual functional political action: removing screens from k-5. bans on phones at school. return to neighborhood schools. public health campaigns about the importance of free play coupled with legislation clarifying children's freedom to be outside unsupervised. there's a bunch of stuff without touching the third rail of mothers working outside the home.

The majority of families can be trusted to parent appropriately in this area if society at large isn't actively undermining their ability to do so.

 

[Lian Xing]

but it is difficult because our culture is toxic for families.

Only very recently is this the case.

 

[YarrBlueballs]

there is a reason the political discouse is 99% about kids and porn and barely a peep about everything else bad about internet access and kids

Someone posted earlier about the connection between porn and social media, and honestly of the two aspects social media is by far the most dangerous part of life in developed countries. Can there even be broad scale porn addictions without the social aspect? Isn't the whole psychology behind ethots, vtubers, discord channels, reddit, ect, being the social aspect is an inherent binding agent in positively encouraging such behavior?

Hell, this circles back to the tranny issue where trannies have to use social media, it's an inherent necessity in continuing conventionally antisocial behavior without being burnt out.

Social media is the gate to evil, to hyper socialization into areas of humanity that real world interactions severely discourage, and porn sickness is a symptom of this. We can't just deal with porn and expect the issues to go away, this social cancer will just continue to grow anyways.

I am forever thankful my parents kept me strictly off of social media as a kid, and I'm finding this is probably the biggest identifier between good vs bad parents. The wonders of growing up with a dedicated computer room in the house versus iphones is the lack of privacy to end up somewhere doing something you shouldn't. All I did was play Battlefront 2 and KOTOR. Best childhood.