The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[prollyanotherlurker]

I was thinking about why so many linux users online as passive aggressive. And I came to the conclusion that they don't mean to be. To reuse an example I posted earlier.
"How do I install GoG?"
"Use Steam."
"But Steam isn't GoG."
"You have Steam. Why would you want to use GoG."
"GoG has games Steam doesn't."
"You shouldn't want to play those games."

From the linux user point of view, they have no interest in those games and see no value in them.

Or you have my perspective. Gamers deserve to suffer.

for the flatpak issue above. It might have to do with permission issues. Using flatseal might be the easiest fix. otherwise, look into making sure that package has permissions to show video. ( personally I just avoid flatpak, its annoying to me, and I would rather put something in a container myself if I choose to do so, or run things naively)

 

[Judge Dredd]

Or you have my perspective. Gamers deserve to suffer

Maybe. But it's not about GoG specifically. I used X and Y before, but it could be anything really. My point was more general. People want to do something. But you're not supposed to do it, because Linux doesn't do it well.

Speaking of which. I always found it strange when people have the attitude that games and other entertainment are a waste of good hardware. But then I wonder what these people do with their hardware. Word processing, web browsing, and email are well handled by even cheap machines. Maybe CAD and web development?

 

[Akerman]

All of this discussion about what can or can't be done well on Linux reminded me of this gem from way back when:

Woman drops out of college due to that thing called Obonto.

 

[They were once men]

Does anyone else have the issue where they can only launch steam through the terminal and not a shortcut I think it has something to do with hardware accelration but i'm confused why a shortcut would break that.

 

[El Goblina]

issue where they can only launch steam through the terminal and not a shortcut

The first thing this makes me think is that the shortcut you're using goes to some auxiliary script that's malfunctioning, whereas you're launching steam directly.

What distro, etc?

 

[They were once men]

What distro, etc?

just stock fedora kde it's just the normal non flatpak version of steam you get from the 3rd party rpm repos. I'm using an amd card if thats any help

 

[El Goblina]

https://github.com/rpmfusion/steam/blob/master/steam.sh -- looks like my thought was generally correct, try find this file, comment out the exports, and see if anything improves?

 

[They were once men]

https://github.com/rpmfusion/steam/blob/master/steam.sh -- looks like my thought was generally correct, try find this file, comment out the exports, and see if anything improves?

Looks like if i disable Hardware Acceleration in steam I can launch it no problem, I guess some weird way they have it setup which fucks with HA.

 

[ZMOT]

i have literally spent and hour trying to do a simple package update

zypper update....

it's probably the first result putting "update package <distribution>" into any search engine of choice.
this might make me sound like a typical "linux elitist asshole", but a lot of linux questions really do have that simple of an answer.

You're sending him mixed signals, as he's already checking out EndeavourOS. OpenSUSE seems like an odd distro for someone focused on gaming but I'm not able to comment much beyond that.

15.6 is just the latest stable with updates since then. tumbleweed is the rolling release distro which should be up to date (they specifically mention gaming stuff), currently on 6.14:

https://software.opensuse.org/package/kernel-default

you might have to add the non-oss repos for steam etc yourself tho.

Maybe. But it's not about GoG specifically. I used X and Y before, but it could be anything really. My point was more general. People want to do something. But you're not supposed to do it, because Linux doesn't do it well.

or the question is simply retarded, see my "I NEED photoshop to crop and resize images". it's not toxic elitism telling someone he's retarded, especially when it comes from someone who does know better.

 

[The Saltening]

zypper update....

it's probably the first result putting "update package <distribution>" into any search engine of choice.
this might make me sound like a typical "linux elitist asshole", but a lot of linux questions really do have that simple of an answer.

I did figure that out. However I had a number of other issues so I just switched to arch with endeavourOS. Pretty smooth sailing.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Maybe. But it's not about GoG specifically. I used X and Y before, but it could be anything really. My point was more general. People want to do something. But you're not supposed to do it, because Linux doesn't do it well.

Speaking of which. I always found it strange when people have the attitude that games and other entertainment are a waste of good hardware. But then I wonder what these people do with their hardware. Word processing, web browsing, and email are well handled by even cheap machines. Maybe CAD and web development?

idc about the hardware. I genuinely think gaming is a waste of your life. I look at it about the same as people that make their life about gooning or doing drugs. All of them waste it, are distractions from productive things you could do. And the people do them always cope about, no actually it's not bad that I do this.

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

idc about the hardware. I genuinely think gaming is a waste of your life. I look at it about the same as people that make their life about gooning or doing drugs. All of them waste it, are distractions from productive things you could do. And the people do them always cope about, no actually it's not bad that I do this.

literally any hobby is a waste of your life. they are distractions from productive things you could do.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

literally any hobby is a waste of your life. they are distractions from productive things you could do.

Some hobbies you learn a skill, some hobbies you make things. Some hobbies get you outside your house, and maybe even get exercise doing them, or get food for your family doing them.

This is the kind of cope I'm talking about. It's sad people think this is normal now. Not that long ago, if you wasted your life for hours playing video games you were a freak, or a nerd. Now its acceptable for grown men to spend their time, and mental energy on them. Not learn anything else productive, not try to move forward with their life outside of work, if they do have a job.

When I said that they always cope. I remember like 10 years ago maybe. When Joe Rogan talked about how he used to game a lot, and realized, basically what I'm saying now. How mad all the fucking gamers were, that he basically said they're a waste of time. Gave so many copes, brought up professional e-sports, and all this retarded shit. But he was right.

Actually. thinking about it for a second. I don't even think gaming should be considered a hobby. I think it should be considered a vice. Like the other things I compared it to.

 

[Day of the Cope]

Since people are bringing up GOG, I want to (once again) remind people that Heroic Launcher exists and allows you to download and install your GOG library as easily as your Steam library.
Even if you're not on Linux, I recommend using it on Windows since CDPR are a bunch of niggers who've abandoned GOG Galaxy.

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

I don't even think gaming should be considered a hobby. I think it should be considered a vice

So would you consider puzzle games, like a Zachtronics game for example, to be a vice? Theres a lot of value in keeping your brain sharp, especially as you get older.
how about simulators, like DCS, or Assetto Corsa? are those vices? even if they're "realistic", they're still games, and they're a fun way to learn skills like flying or racing, albeit niche.
If a game can get you working together and chatting with friends, like playing an ArmA 3 Operation, is there no value in that?
If a game can get you legitimately thinking about the world around you, the same way a well written book or movie might, is it still a vice?

I think theres an argument to be made that theres a lot of mindless slop out there made for people interested in low-quality pleasures, thats part of why I frankly dont game much anymore, but I think its a bit reactionary to say all of this is like that. or perhaps I misunderstand what you're getting at here.

Since people are bringing up GOG, I want to (once again) remind people that Heroic Launcher exists and allows you to download and install your GOG library as easily as your Steam library.
Even if you're not on Linux, I recommend using it on Windows since CDPR are a bunch of niggers who've abandoned GOG Galaxy.

Im pretty sure GOG can be run off lutris as well, but I've mostly stuck to steam so far.

 

[Harammurabe]

Some hobbies you learn a skill, some hobbies you make things. Some hobbies get you outside your house, and maybe even get exercise doing them, or get food for your family doing them.

This is the kind of cope I'm talking about. It's sad people think this is normal now. Not that long ago, if you wasted your life for hours playing video games you were a freak, or a nerd. Now its acceptable for grown men to spend their time, and mental energy on them. Not learn anything else productive, not try to move forward with their life outside of work, if they do have a job.

 

[Day of the Cope]

Im pretty sure GOG can be run off lutris as well, but I've mostly stuck to steam so far.

Sure, but I find that Heroic tends to be a smoother experience.

 

[Plastic Bag]

Not that long ago, if you wasted your life for hours playing video games you were a freak, or a nerd. Now its acceptable for grown men to spend their time, and mental energy on them. Not learn anything else productive, not try to move forward with their life outside of work, if they do have a job.

It's not "acceptable" though in the wider world, if you talk to real people about this, they will still think you're a freak or nerd. Maybe you perceive it to be this way because you can instantly put yourself in a group of people who all love wasting their time on things. I could argue that's the same with any hobby or skill, though, it can be totally useless outside of its subject area. Fishing? What if you're in the desert? Business macroeconomics? What if you're a Gym Teacher?

Video games are for sure at the bottom of that standard of a "hobby" or "skill", but without being addicted, I don't see a problem with it, although personally I get bored of games after an hour a day, feels like I'm not really doing anything unless it's with friends.

 

[Slav Power]

Maybe you perceive it to be this way because you can instantly put yourself in a group of people who all love wasting their time on things.

 

[elastic eye]

Anyone running an Asus Xonar Essence SXT I or II sound card?