Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[RodgerDodger]

I can imagine the possibility that Greer is just so retarded that he thought his finances allowed for IFP status. But it would be quite strange if his statements here don't match his disclosures in the IFP application. He had money he could use for discretionary purposes when he filed his action, so my question is what he told the court about that money in his IFP application. Did he just not mention it? Did he lie and say it was bound up or spent already? Maybe he did mention it but is so retarded that his language obfuscated the reality of his assets.

I'm sure the District of Utah will be right on it.

The beauty is he probably has no idea what he filed at ECF #1. That was years ago and he doesn't keep records.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

Everyone's getting their panties in a wad over NOTHING. It's totally not fraud, Greer had the money, yes, but he didn't want to spend it on court fees, he wanted to spend it on other things. If he had spent it on fees, he wouldn't have been able to afford that other stuff, which means he is IPF.

This is easy stuff, guys, and no amount of legal shenanigans and stalking can make it fraud.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The beauty is he probably has no idea what he filed at ECF #1. That was years ago and he doesn't keep records.

How has this never occured to me? Despite it all, my brain just never picks up this sorta of Russ-thinking.

 

[Napoleon III]

I'm actually kinda surprised this isn't part of the requirement to file IPF IFP, just to avoid issues like this were someone's head canon declares they are poor or 'saving up' (for whores) therefore they can waive fees.

im sure the court thinks no one would be stupid enough to lie or that not enough people lie for it to be a requirement. its also something that could be remedied (?) with paying the fee when finances change or with charges and sanctions in russ' case.

The way courts do it now is basically fine actually or it would be. It actually makes sense to use something like an honor system that you can verify at a later date because it creates an example of how someone behaves. Easily verifiable processes are absolutely fantastic for settling disputes. But courts are stupid and lazy and often fail to use this method.

Keep in mind as well that a tax document is basically the same thing but with better record keeping and third parties making it harder, but not impossible, to lie.

 

[King Of Braves]

I want to believe this has dragged on as long as it has because Hardin is setting up an insane slam dunk that will make sure Russ never gets to abuse the court system ever again, but I'm almost completely certain this is just a continued failure from the ongoing joke that is our judicial system.

 

[mindlessobserver]

How has this never occured to me? Despite it all, my brain just never picks up this sorta of Russ-thinking.

You are not retarded enough. Maybe try and drop something heavy on your head. Like the Statue of a Confederate general? I've heard that's a good way to learn how to think like a retard.

 

[Swole McPole]

How has this never occured to me? Despite it all, my brain just never picks up this sorta of Russ-thinking.

Russell stored all his legal documents in a U-haul van. He'll file a photograph of the U-haul van as proof of their existence.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

You fuckers. You absolute imbeciles. You jokes of a lawyer that make Wrekita look like he sits on the Supremes.

Of course Greer can be IPF with his moving expenses - after all he is the moving party!

 

[S.C.U.D.]

The beauty is he probably has no idea what he filed at ECF #1. That was years ago and he doesn't keep records.

He's also moved on.

 

[Artificial Stupidity]

The magic never stop with Russ does it.

 I worked out IPF stands for "idiot paralysed face"

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Stop giving Greer advice! He probably hasn't thought of that one trick to get women yet.

wait a fuckin' minute, could you depose a witness at olive garden? if so greer can save THOUSANDS

 

[mindlessobserver]

Sure would be funny if Hardin got depositions from the hookers about how much money greer was spending

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Given how he sounds when he talks, he might be better off going with an electrolarynx, those things they give to smokers that create a synthetic voice for them when they have their larynx removed/bypassed.

 

[Goofy Logic]

I am no longer looking for volunteers.

The reach of the Kiwi is legendary.

How has this never occured to me? Despite it all, my brain just never picks up this sorta of Russ-thinking.

That's because you are likely not as impulsive as Russell is. He is likely trying to remember what he put down in that ECF by hashing over his living conditions at the time. Of course, he has to put it down as a blog post and submit it as "additional authority"

 

[RodgerDodger]

Sure would be funny if Hardin got depositions from the hookers about how much money greer was spending

Why would he need to? Greer has testified to how much he spends on hookers like its almost good thing or a necessity.

 

[GaryGray]

In any event, $16 x 40 x ±50-ish = more than twice the federal poverty level in 2020.

Greer works part time so there is no guarantee that his wage can be extrapolated as working 40 a week and 52 weeks a year. The safe choice is 20 a week for 13 weeks a year.

 

[HackerX]

Sure would be funny if Hardin got depositions from the hookers about how much money greer was spending

Hrm. Wouldn't that imply paying for their time? Null and Greer becoming Eskimo brothers is not something that was on my radar.

 

[Harvey Danger]

The beauty is he probably has no idea what he filed at ECF #1. That was years ago and he doesn't keep records.

The judge himself can see the records even when sealed, can't he?

Please God, let Russ have completely misremembered what he put in ECF 1, and got it all wrong today.

 

[Pedophobe]

The reach of the Kiwi is legendary.

NVLL VLTRA

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

The beauty is he probably has no idea what he filed at ECF #1. That was years ago and he doesn't keep records.

I didn't think that, but you're probably spot on. He probably forgot and can't access the filing now because it's sealed to the public. He could be totally contradicting his actual filing without any idea that he's doing it. It would explain why he was quickly filing supplemental authorities when he found an old record or thought of a new argument to bolster his defense. If it's obvious, I'd think the judge would say something about it.

Greer would be better of if he just said he stands by the IFP application without anything else.