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The PC is wasted on a B650-P motherboard that, according to my searches, has caused way too many headaches for other users
What do you mean? B650 is more than good enough for most gaming setups. You don't need the X*70 chipsets unless you really need tons of external I/O and storage.
 
Is it failure prone or something?
It's fine, it's just not superb.

Kingston's NV line is a budget line without a DRAM cache. This used to mean the performance is mediocre, since the controller has to actually read the flash to figure out where to read the flash to retrieve a specific block, while a cache lets it store that metadata in a much faster DRAM chip instead. Small files will also fit in the cache, letting the drive pretend that a write was instantaneous and then handle actually storing it on the flash at its own leisure.

It's not as big a problem nowadays. Drivers and operating systems have gotten cleverer, so the difference between a cacheless drive and one with a cache isn't as big.
 
Not sure, but people overly sperg about NVME specs in general...especially if you're just using it for gaming or whatnot. So many people are convinced you need top of the shelf PCIE 5.0 tlc drives.
Oh, that's what I thought. For games and crap like that read speed is what matters. Save files won't be 190GB write operations.
 
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There isn't much point in going beyond PCIe 3.0 NVMe. It's all diminishing returns from there.
Your first jump was from HDD to SSD. The entirety of SATA3 is getting saturated, no more physical delays.
Your second jump was from SATA to NVMe. Now you're no longer restricted by SATA3 speeds and you're getting gigabytes/s worth of transfer speeds so file operations are speedy. In practice it's 1-2 seconds faster in loading software.

Now when you jump from PCIe 3.0 to 4.0/5.0 you only get another second or two worth of the practical software speed benefit for a substantially larger price, as well as heat output and power draw. SATA3 SSD's are being slowly phased out as they were merely a stopgap (Crucial stopped manufacturing the MX500 for example), and in the future we'll be relying solely on NVMe for our SSD needs. But once again, you're getting very little improvement with newest PCIe versions so staying at 3.0 is perfectly fine. It's still fast, but it's cooler and cheaper.
 
Is it failure prone or something?
I asked about the NV line SSD in the same thread and was told about its' low quality, answered by the Farms' local Saber simp.
What do you mean? B650 is more than good enough for most gaming setups. You don't need the X*70 chipsets unless you really need tons of external I/O and storage.
I'm not asking for an X*70 mobo, I'm worried about that specific B650 model because from what I searched on both reviews in PCPartpicker, reddit and amazon, that specific mobo has issues in both its' BIOS and the mobo's error prone issues in reading any component installed in the chipset, be it the RAM, GPU or even the M.2 slots it has.

Always check which mobo is worth getting via reviews. The last thing you want is a dead part that ultimately eats up your budget and setup, especially if that dead part is an essential component of your build.
 
There isn't much point in going beyond PCIe 3.0 NVMe. It's all diminishing returns from there.
Your first jump was from HDD to SSD. The entirety of SATA3 is getting saturated, no more physical delays.
Your second jump was from SATA to NVMe. Now you're no longer restricted by SATA3 speeds and you're getting gigabytes/s worth of transfer speeds so file operations are speedy. In practice it's 1-2 seconds faster in loading software.

Now when you jump from PCIe 3.0 to 4.0/5.0 you only get another second or two worth of the practical software speed benefit for a substantially larger price, as well as heat output and power draw. SATA3 SSD's are being slowly phased out as they were merely a stopgap (Crucial stopped manufacturing the MX500 for example), and in the future we'll be relying solely on NVMe for our SSD needs. But once again, you're getting very little improvement with newest PCIe versions so staying at 3.0 is perfectly fine. It's still fast, but it's cooler and cheaper.
Bro there is a notacable difference when downloading files to my 990 vs my Crucial drive which has a 6600 write speed. lol.
 
Late nitpick but the CPU+GPU is the only thing I see here that is good in my opinion. The PC is wasted on a B650-P motherboard that, according to my searches, has caused way too many headaches for other users. The exact model of the ram and SSD is not exactly stated so I am not sure how reliable/gimped it would be (like God-forbid the SSD is a Kingston NV3 or some shit). PSU is also another problem, yeah its 750W, but which brand? Is it Seasonic, Corsair, Fractal or some cheapo Chinkshit PSU? Lastly is the AIO. Yeah it will work now and its not 120mm but it will became a pain in the ass to repair after a few years or so.

Either way, good luck.
SSD is a Western Digital Blue, so not the best but not chink shit
AIO is a cooler master version
PSU is powerspec branded, but is 80+ gold.
 
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Now when you jump from PCIe 3.0 to 4.0/5.0 you only get another second or two worth of the practical software speed benefit for a substantially larger price, as well as heat output and power draw. SATA3 SSD's are being slowly phased out as they were merely a stopgap (Crucial stopped manufacturing the MX500 for example), and in the future we'll be relying solely on NVMe for our SSD needs. But once again, you're getting very little improvement with newest PCIe versions so staying at 3.0 is perfectly fine. It's still fast, but it's cooler and cheaper.
Most of the deals I see these days are for PCIe 4.0 SSDs, so I think PCIe 3.0 is displaced except for cheaper sources like the used market. PCIe 4.0 SSDs don't have the heat, power draw, and expense of PCIe 5.0, although that might improve soon since mainstream/cheapass PCIe 5.0 controllers are appearing.
 
So I guess the 9060 XT 16gb isn't worth scalping? Seems like there is a good amount of supply. I ordered one in case I didn't get my prebuilt but it seems like I should cancel it.
 
So I guess the 9060 XT 16gb isn't worth scalping? Seems like there is a good amount of supply. I ordered one in case I didn't get my prebuilt but it seems like I should cancel it.
after Nintendo flooded the market and some Nvidia cards flopped the scalpers may not have enough liquidity to snap up the AMD cards.
 
So I guess the 9060 XT 16gb isn't worth scalping? Seems like there is a good amount of supply. I ordered one in case I didn't get my prebuilt but it seems like I should cancel it.
It's difficult to justify paying more than $400 for it, since GPUs below/near/above it will have better price/performance. It's a small die, so if AMD commits to it, they should be able to supply it and drop that price closer to MSRP. Cutting production of the 8 GB model would also be helpful.
 
AirPods Max are really good headphones too.
I tried them the other day and I was caught off-guard by the soundstage. Music sounded like it was coming from speakers all around me instead of plain old headphones, it was really nice.

The only personal deal breaker is they're on-ear instead of over-ear, over-ears are the ear version of a recliner chair.
was told about its' low quality, answered by the Farms' local Saber simp.
I don't want to be "that guy" but he doesn't know as much as he thinks he does...
 
The only personal deal breaker is they're on-ear instead of over-ear, over-ears are the ear version of a recliner chair.
Huh.
Guess I just have really small ears then. They're definitely over-ear on me.
 
Is it Seasonic, Corsair, Fractal or some cheapo Chinkshit PSU?
All 3 of those companies stick their own logos on chinkshit PSU's. If you want a company that makes their own PSU's look at Super Flower and Silverstone.

The exact model of the ram and SSD is not exactly stated
A review cited that the SSD is a Western Digital SN580 Blue drive.

Lastly is the AIO. Yeah it will work now and its not 120mm but it will became a pain in the ass to repair after a few years or so.
A few years isn't that bad for an AIO, but I'd expect it to last 6 minimum.

The PC is wasted on a B650-P motherboard that, according to my searches, has caused way too many headaches for other users.
MSI has one of the more user-friendly BIOS menus I think, and that particular motherboard model is pretty good overall. PCie 5.0 is the only major feature it's missing.
 
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