2025 Israel vs Iran War

[ragtime]

We should look into importing chemical castration upon their youth.

But that's inhumane...
Give them cultural castration or whatever South Korea, Japan and western Europe is having

 

[Dawdler]

I don't get if the Iranian missiles are actually aimed or not anymore. Hitting a hospital is just retarded and like quarter the staff there is arab

Like I said before: Israel shouldn't use human shields for their military installations.
But it's funny how they bitch and moan about it when they directly struck a hospital in gaza. Bomb around find out.

Jewish agents are way worse, blatant, and disruptive to forums and discussions (see /pol/) than what's happening ITT.

It is that chans and discords are the most populated with jews just arguing with each other. Shepardic sect vs. secular vs christian, indians and so on. I doubt there's any white people left on there.
For some reason white people talking to eachother and exchanging information and experiences drags these kinds close like nothing other. Like the reality that they absolutely suck is approximating puting holy water on a demon.

If it was Mossad, they would rather shut it down than subvert this alien website. We all have opinions, but that's just it.

They would infiltrate the top ranks and steer the agenda. If they can't control it, yes they will shut it down one way or another.

What those retarded theocrats constantly forget is that peace with Israel is really, REALLY fucking simple - if you want to avoid conflict with Israel, don't attack them.

Did you fall on your head? This time Israel attacked them.

And still this won't bring down the population significantly. It baffles my mind how they breed despite war, economic hardship, uncertain future etc

They are made out of better stuff than you are. Also babies conceived before the war are being born now.

 

[Tyrant_1]

And still this won't bring down the population significantly. It baffles my mind how they breed despite war, economic hardship, uncertain future etc

Humanity breeds way faster during times of turmoil. If Palestinians had social nets and an uninterrupted global market access like America, they'd have a shit fertility rate like in East Asia and the West.

 

[merpalerpaherp]

There were massive trucker strikes just last month, the latest in a string of increasingly frequent protests. The regime has pretty good reasons to be afraid of civil unrest, especially now that their axis of resistance larp has collapsed and they're being constantly cucked and embarrassed by glowkikes.

There's protesting and there's actual civil unrest, they're massively different when you're a dictator who's losing a war and has little left to lose. I could see it turning to civil unrest if the Iranian ground forces were being targeted by Israel but they're not to the extent it'd inspire a degree of confidence. As long as the regime can maintain authority on the street level, there won't even be a chance to organize a gathering large enough to do much of anything.

 

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

This is blatant hyperbole. I would recommend you chill on being so emotionally invested in this conflict half the world away. The IDF has committed verifiable war crimes, but they are not "mag dumping into crowds of women and children." The accusations of "literal genocide" are quite overblown.

I’m not emotionally invested lol, I’m just describing frankly positions with which you disagree. On Tuesday the IDF killed like 70 civilians with heavy machine guns and tank shells. Mag dumping is adding colour because it sounds funnier not hyperbole, because what they actually did (shooting tank rounds into a crowd) is probably worse.

 

[Dawdler]

More videos of the last wave and its aftermath. It's unfortunate the censorship has been making them more difficult to find online. After years of blowing up hospitals and ambulances with no armed people on them it's nice to see some evening out.

Thanks for the find. You know it's gonna be good when you see the launchers spazzing out. This must have been at least one ton warhead. Shockwave ring is insane.
Now where is this guy that said a miss does nothing? It is obvious that even distant detonations wreak havoc to infrastructure. I didn't imagine to see such effects but it appears that detonations are even more harmful to high risers than regular buildings. The shockwave travels all the way to the top.

Because it is a hospital. Unlike Hamas, Israel doesn't use basements of hospitals as weapons caches and hospitals roofs as rocket pads.

My brother in christ: https://truthout.org/articles/bunke...l-were-built-by-israel-former-israel-pm-says/

 

[Shovelbird]

jews are losing it right now

SAMSON OPTION WHEN

 

[EyeGuy]

IDF footage of the airstrikes on the Arak reactor:

On the ground:

 

[Shovelbird]

Iran is always 2 weeks away from a nuke lol

 

[A Cardboard Box]

As long as the regime can maintain authority on the street level, there won't even be a chance to organize a gathering large enough to do much of anything.

The problem with countries like Iran which get their authority not from the consent of the governed, but by an alleged mandate from God backed by the threat of force, is that in periods of significant weakness, or when it is obvious that the current leader's plan is just not working, and is in fact leading them off a cliff, the political and military elite tend to get restless, and could feasibly just overthrow the existing government and seize power. Sure we're seeing some of the generals circle the wagons and some arrests being made, but as the saying goes, coups always start with the colonels.

My brother in christ:

"When we had it we built underground levels to increase the size of the hospital, these underground levels are now used as command centers by Hamas." Yeah I don't see how this conflicts with what I said at all. Now, if you had proof that the IDF was running an air force command post from the hospital which was just missiled by Iran, then we could talk.

I’m just describing frankly positions with which you disagree.

And refusing to acknowledge Iran's part in all of this.

 

[Turkey Beef]

Israel doesn't have the ability to do that. It's why they need the US to fight all their wars for them. The US is one of the few countries that has the ability to project force in that way. The problem isn't the conventional war. The problem is the inevitable insurgency that will happen after. The conventional war in Iraq was over in a few weeks. The problem was all the guerilla shit that happened after. That would definitely happen in Iran. You think those Iranian Republican Guards or whatever the fuck they are called are going to stand and fight just to get slaughtered by ZOG bots? Fuck no. They are going to slink off into the countryside and start engaging in guerilla style non-conventional fighting. Planting IED's hit and runs and so on. It will basically be Iraq all over again. Another forever war the American public no longer has the stomach for.

Funny enough, I'm sure Iran has learned a ton about IEDs from 20 years of Iraq/Afghan too.

>drones
I guess those are also a thing. There's been a huge change.

At first the world was like:
"2024"
"we need to invest in jamming"
"heavy concrete!"

But then the Russians were all:
"2025"
"5,10,15 km of fiber optic spools on now unjammable drones"
"miles of netting!"

Fence-sitting brainlets haven't really been talking about that -- because they only care about those sweet stickers. But still, this is an extremely clever innovation in warfare. Jamming is now largely back to traditional comms and GPS/big drones.

Regarding "drones". The Iraqis and Afghanis didn't use flyie drones -- they buried IEDs wired to a burner cell phone.

"b-but my jamming"

Note the part where I talked about spools of kilometers fiber now being widely available and cheap (bless China). And if you don't have that, you might as well use a raspberry pi and run CAT 5. (Bonus, after you could just cut off the damaged CAT 5 and reuse the rest, or sell what's left for copper scrap).

I really want to emphasize this, because over time, THAT was the biggest worry in those places. Iraqis would shoot mortars timed with ice blocks (set trigger on top of a block of ice that melts in the sun, giving the attacker a few hours to get away), and that is clever, but they still rarely hit anything.

Snipers would result in nasty reprisals (everyone's doors kicked in or blown open).

IEDs would heavily cripple defenseless troops. That required -- and at least got -- an immediate innovation in a change of hull design. I've known someone who was a welder who installed these and probably saved lives (caveat incoming).

""9000" allied deaths"
""just" crippled"

If an IED blew up under your MRAP, you were probably going home. I don't necessarily mean this in a good way. I am talking about injuries where previously, even in Vietnam, someone would have bled out and died. Excellent medics mean that your entire lower half and two arms are blown off, but wow we saved you! You're still alive!!!111 Ain't that great, bucko?!?

People don't talk about the aftermath enough. Disfigured. Destroyed personal lives (wife leaves you, gets all the bennies and the kids, etc.) And, yep, the suicides.

10 TIMES the amount of casualties (which are already managed and don't count contractors and civilians) came from those who had their personal lives destroyed as a consequence of them maybe even just being there and couldn't go on.

The fact is that Iran will likely use that technology to really drive home the point that it is NOT WORTH IT to invade. And yes, it's "psychological", but it's also just a reality situation.

Spoiler: some more semi-related sperging

Going back to this post I made in the other (and quite frankly superior) Israel/Iran thread: I really like how that video is a great demonstration of the speed of light vs sound. I wish I were a teacher of some sort so I could show it to a classroom, and ask some really thought-provoking questions.

"OK class, let me ask a random person"
"Shlomo! OK, so we can clearly see the explosion a few seconds BEFORE we can hear the incoming missile and explosion."
"I counted two seconds. FUN TRICK CLASS -- that means it's 2km away!"
"Now -- here's where it gets REALLY interesting"
"Shlomo! What if I were the one filming that video"
"and what if I had your cousin or rabbi on the phone, who was near, but not at the explosion site"
"would the sound of the explosion still be delayed on the phone?"
"Well go-I mean, professor, I think using this as an examp-"
"Shlomo do you want some more fucking detention?"
"it's free!"
"oh, you don't? Answer the fucking question"
"... no professor, the sound wouldn't be!"
"WOW class! Check out the vaunted ashkenazi IQ on Shlomo"
"smart fucking shlomo, that's right!"
"Can you tell us why?"
"because... the digitized transmission of my rabbi cousin's voice travels by signal"
"Yes, and?"
"... and that basically travels at the speed of light"
"Exactly! And class as an aside"
"this is why you should go on the internet and encourage people in Israel to upload this content!"

 

[EyeGuy]

Israel's defense minister is now openly threatening to kill the Supreme Leader - "a man like this cannot be allowed to exist":

Despite their public "no surrender" stance, the Iranian FM will be meeting his British, French, German and Emirati counterparts in Geneva on Friday to beg them to bail Iran out (spoiler: it won't help).

UPDATE: Katz adds that the Supreme Leader is ordering the deliberate targeting of civilians and that "preventing the existence of Khamenei" is now an Israeli war goal (Amit Segal).

 

[Dawdler]

"When we had it we built underground levels to increase the size of the hospital, these underground levels are now used as command centers by Hamas." Yeah I don't see how this conflicts with what I said at all. Now, if you had proof that the IDF was running an air force command post from the hospital which was just missiled by Iran, then we could talk.

Look, every modern hospital has a tunnel and that means there's hamas in there. A valid military target. /sneed

It has been proven before that Israel was treating terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda in their hospitals. While destroyed building may be unappetizing it doesn't even scratch the surface of what Israel is doing elsewhere.

Chickens are coming home to roost. What else they expected to happen? They can bomb willy nilly and get nothing in return? It's like a bully receiving a hit from an underdog.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Absolutely horrific damage. Israel will not accept a diplomatic deal after this

Iran was ready for talks and the IDF carried out a massive and ongoing surprise attack.
Who would trust them again?

the Ramat Gan Stock Exchange building

Perhaps I've spent too much on time on /pol/ but I'm guessing that's equivalent of a cathedral or grand mosque to many Jews.

Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps statement: “We struck the Soroka site, which was secretly used as a military facility for high-level meetings of occupation leaders. Large caches of weapons were stored beneath it.”

after all the hospitals they hit in gaza it's hard to care

There were innocents in Gaza and innocents in Jewish areas. Yes, it is hypocritical for Israelis to whinge about it, but the bereaved families in Soroka didn't start this war.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

It has been proven before that Israel was treating terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda in their hospitals.

I do not know what this has to do with the price of eggs in China.

While destroyed building may be unappetizing it doesn't even scratch the surface of what Israel is doing elsewhere.

See above.

It's like a bully receiving a hit from an underdog.

Yes the largest state sponsor of terror on the planet is the underdog doing God's work. I find this line of thinking unfathomable. Iran has fucked with and destabilized every nation in the region for thirty years, and somehow they are still the "underdog" fighting the "bully." How can you reconcile this with reality?

Who would trust them again?

As others have said, in order for credibility to be lost, the talks would've had to mean something. If the talks were with a country that wasn't run by a massive piece of shit funding terrorism in every country in the region, then yes, this might mean something, but it's Iran, so the loss of credibility is minimal.

 

[Dawdler]

Israel has fucked with and destabilized every nation in the world

Fixed that for you. The rest isn't even worthy of a comment.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Fixed that for you. The rest isn't even worthy of a comment.

Oh, so you aren't even attempting to debate in good faith. At least you're honest. I give you props for that.

 

[Dawdler]

I attempted. Failure is on your side. I won't waste more of my time.

 

[EyeGuy]

Better version of the aftermath in Arak:

Patients being moved from Soroka to other hospitals:

 

[Super-Chevy454]

The guys of American Thinker added their pinch of salt on the Iran war.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/06/downfall_of_the_ayatollahs.html

https://archive.ph/k6dvs

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/fMUUN

June 17, 2025

Downfall of the ayatollahs?​

By Civis Americanus

KhameneiUntergang (Downfall, 2004) is a movie about the last days of the Hitler regime, including Hitler's nine-millimeter-and-cyanide honeymoon with Eva Braun.

We are now looking at the final days of Iran's theocracy, which is likely to collapse by the end of the week; one week after Israel began military action.

It is well known from history that, when a country's leaders flee the battlefield, the war is over for them.

At Gaugamela in 331 B.C.E., the massive Persian army collapsed when King Darius turned his chariot to run from Alexander the Great, who was personally trying to kill him.

Once his army saw him flee, it lost its will to fight and that is why so many cities in that region are now named Alexandria or its equivalent, such as Kandahar (formerly Alexandria Arachosia).

It is now being reported that the Iranian leaders whom Israel has not killed are running like rats.

According to the Times of Israel: