2025 Israel vs Iran War

This aged poorly
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Did they do anything about it? Bomb Israel? no, they are fine with it
Israel doesn't publicize or even admit the existence of its nuclear program, it's solely used as a defensive option. If the Iranians got a bomb, they would be parading it around and making themselves completely immune to retaliation while they perpetuate their terror campaigns through their proxies. Some countries are way more responsible with nuclear weapons than others. You don't see the US or anyone else complaining that France has nuclear weapons, despite the fact that the US didn't approve of French attempts to get a nuke during their development.
 
When we consider this current situation from a Realpolitik perspective its really silly. What exactly was Iran trying to achieve with a war against a country it doesn't even share a border with? What would "destroying" that country even accomplish?

Iran's entire campaign against Israel and the USA was purely ideological. It wasn't for some grand external great power objective. It was solely for the state to justify its own internal authority.

Now it has blown up in their face. Literally.
In a perfect world this will result in Iran's authoritarian government being replaced with a more moderate government.
Otherwise this scenario will repeat in perpetuity.
 
>limey faggot Brits backing Trump
Shit, maybe he really did fuck up here
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you would think Iran was threatening to swim out to the middle of the indian ocean and resurrect Osama and power him with fent like he is mother fucking megatron or something

I get they Iran sucks but they are like 1 of 11 medium sized countries that wish us death regularly, why did we just swing on them?
 
you would think Iran was threatening to swim out to the middle of the indian ocean and resurrect Osama and power him with a fent like the he is mother fucking megatron or something

I get they Iran sucks but they are like 1 of 11 medium sized countries that wish us death regularly, why did we just swing on them?
Browns suck, and making them go boom is funny
 
This "myth" of requiring 85% enriched Uranium for a bomb is commonly quoted, but is entirely, 100% completely false. A weapon can be made with less enriched uranium, but is not done by advanced countries because they need merely more material. You can produce a very good explosion with lesser enriched uranium, it will merely take more material, and the explosion will be dirty scattering isotopes and material. It will also be much heavier obviously.
The lowest limit for a bomb I saw floats around 80% (Hiroshima bomb) and that is with reflectors. You may not get any yield with LEU as a lot of bomb weight is simply due to reflectors trying to improve reaction values.
The 80% bomb also had a higher enriched "core" with 99% material. America couldn't get that much in time needed, to make a whole bomb with it.
Technically, you need like 20kg 235U and it doesn't matter if it's mixed or pure. Regular uranium will just slow the reaction down and beyond a certain limit, you will just breed regular uranium to plutonium at which point reaction will stop.

There is also the myth of the implosion device being required - no it does not. It is merely more effective and practical for large scale weapon production. To produce a nuclear weapon with lower grade uranium a "gun type" detonation can be used and will work and is no where near as hard as implosion type devices.
Yes, but is a waste to go for a gun type when you can make a implosion version if you have the knowledge and tooling. Gun type also reverts to air drop bomb as it's really not practical to mount it on a missile.
 
And um, how many times has the USA implemented "regime change" that worked out wonderfully?

SHOULD a regime change happen, be sure that the 60% enriched Uranium will disappear and then we will have a much, much larger problem afoot, because the first target for its use won't be Israel - it will be the USA. Israel was incapable of its attacks against Iran without USA support and weapons, and assistance in shooting down missiles, and now this attack on Iran's nuclear program.

The USA just got in the cross hairs.

This "myth" of requiring 85% enriched Uranium for a bomb is commonly quoted, but is entirely, 100% completely false. A weapon can be made with less enriched uranium, but is not done by advanced countries because they need merely more material. You can produce a very good explosion with lesser enriched uranium, it will merely take more material, and the explosion will be dirty scattering isotopes and material. It will also be much heavier obviously.

There is also the myth of the implosion device being required - no it does not. It is merely more effective and practical for large scale weapon production. To produce a nuclear weapon with lower grade uranium a "gun type" detonation can be used and will work and is no where near as hard as implosion type devices.

Iran can put together a bomb probably now if they wanted to; or they could load their missiles with depleted uranium or enriched uranium and allow Israel to shoot them down and scatter it for them.

There is much risk involved in what Trump just did. Nothing is certain.

Google has been ordered to scrub results relating to enrichment requirements because I fucking know you don't need 85% uranium and now google and the other search engines are literally destroying links to any studies that show or state otherwise.

Don't believe it. It is a stone cold fucking lie.
I looked this up two nights ago on google, the result of searching "at what level of enrichment is uranium considered weapons grade?"
It was 90%, there were like 5 different articles from nuclear bodies.
 
6 GBU-57's by all accounts, 2 per B-2, 9 B-2's in total, wonder what those other 6 were carrying?
Maybe radiation detectors or something
I looked this up two nights ago on google, the result of searching "at what level of enrichment is uranium considered weapons grade?"
It was 90%, there were like 5 different articles from nuclear bodies.
The Little Boy bomb, dropped over Hiroshima, used about 64 kg of 80% enriched uranium.
 
What invasion? Separate out your fantasies from reality. Even the Israelis only are asking to bomb the underground Fordow facility with weapons the US has but Israel doesn’t.
This is going to continue to escalate to that point because Iran is run by fuckin’ ideologies who don’t understand surrender and Trump doesn’t relent until someone says uncle.

This will get significantly worse if Iran decides to close off their oil reserves. Trump will not fuck around, he will put boots on the ground and invade with Israeli support. Trump is already speaking as if we’re poised to go to war.
 
Footage of IAF destroying a Khorramshahr missile and launcher:

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Even Middle East Spectator is beginning to accept that they're losing:
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"Israeli air superiority is unfortunately becoming a real issue." Only now becoming reality? Well on the other hand some credit for coming to that conclusion.

"Iran... doesn't have ...freedom..." Indeed they don't, let's dispense some.
 
Two reports of smoke at Israel's Soreq Nuclear Center, geolocated the area of POV 31.9096985,34.7382722

It would appear that there is also a military base in the area.

I'd like to draw everyone's attention to the fact that this person was asked where they saw these reports, and instead of answering, he simply repeated the claim and added a couple of screenshots. Y'all may wish to govern yourselves accordingly in terms of engaging.
 
Unless the facility was siesmically isolated and experienced a full catastrophic vault collapse and if that was the case there would have been seismic events, its very unlikely Fordow is completely destroyed.

Very fucked up with facilities going to takea very long time to restore? Yes.
Any sensitive equipment a complete write-off for scrap? Yes.
But not fully destroyed and depending on where the bombs ended up hitting, the facility might not be a complete write-off and potentially able to be restored to service (if they impacted and compromised a central area, the facility is likely donezo; ongoing salvage operations wouldbe feasible and it might see use as an underground storage area, but it'll be done as an enrichment and processing area. But If the strata isn't compromised, or not irrevocably compromised, of if its not a central area [or can be bypassed], you could clean up and repair/reinforce the damaged area and get it back into service with a lot of work and time, but less of both than trying to make a new facility).
And any fissile material inside would likely be recoverable if it can be reached.

However its pretty certain anyone inside at the time died of internal injuries from the pressure wave. If scientists or engineers were working, they are off the clock forever.

Which doesn't mean the site hasn't been rendered inoperable. I don't trust the weasel words of the type of person to type that top post.
The site is inoperable with anyone inside at the time dead. The question is "how long will it remain inoperable?".


Might be just shadow from landslide mitigation measures or is it ventilation shafts or whatever. Who knows at this point. You'd have to go walk there and investigate yourself because no side will tell you the truth.

Tunnels being filled with dirt would mean bombs being much less effective (0 void). They don't seem too stupid and everything valuable inside was probably dismantled & removed in day prior. This probably delayed the actual refinement more than anything.
Iran totally knew it was coming, removed all their equipment! They filled the tunnels with dirt in a couple hours to stop the strike they didn't know was coming! Not because their facility collapsed! I'm not coping! Iranian S-300s took out 27 of the 9 B-2s sent to bomb it!

Remember when your retarded ass said the GBU-57 couldn't reach? Move those goal posts, retard! Hurry! Before Iran is about to take yet another massive L.
 
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I'd like to draw everyone's attention to the fact that this person was asked where they saw these reports, and instead of answering, he simply repeated the claim and added a couple of screenshots. Y'all may wish to govern yourselves accordingly in terms of engaging.
CTR has stated he has access to private OSINT sources.
 
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