Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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That was...actually decent.

Like even the twist was genuinely funny.
Don't know why people in the thread talk about this so favorably.

While the twist ending was predictable the fact that there was an actual sweet conversation and Loona even getting some character development just to go fuck you and die good hearted straight man!
They think they are writing dark humor but all they do is be mean spirited.
 
Don't know why people in the thread talk about this so favorably.

While the twist ending was predictable the fact that there was an actual sweet conversation and Loona even getting some character development just to go fuck you and die good hearted straight man!
They think they are writing dark humor but all they do is be mean spirited.
Eh, I don't see anyone particularly loving this joke. If HB was a properly produced show, this short would probably be a throwaway b-plot in an episode about Moxie and Millie hanging out with neo-nazi jihadist bikers.

Writing this I realized, episode 1 S1 did almost the exact same gag with the murder family. Immaculate individual(s) turns out to not be what they seem. The only other payoff you could do is that turns out the guy is just that perfect. That might have actually been a better payoff, I reckon in this case.

Speaking of early HB, the Pilot which everyone likes features them murdering and dismembering a child. It's weird how this edgy comedy turned into an outwardly serious melodrama. It's the complete opposite of what it was pitched on!
 
Phobia implies irrational and intense fear or fear based hatred. It doesn't matter to me if you frame it as a positive because "Being [noun]phobic is good acksually!" it's still the same result of pinning some form of irrational fear based bias on a guy that never showed any signs of that.

Touche, it's more like well-informed hatred.
 
And I would have liked some explanation as to why Loona's clip only had two bullets. Maybe she says in distress, "Dammit, Moxxie!" to expand on their office rivalry as well as the latter's role as the firearms guy.
I found that weird too, almost like a payoff without the proper setup, maybe they didn't want Loona to be the one that finished off not-Mr. Rogers so they could had Blitzo do that? Because outside of that his participation in this mission felt very pointless.

Speaking of Blitzo:
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Don't know why people in the thread talk about this so favorably.

While the twist ending was predictable the fact that there was an actual sweet conversation and Loona even getting some character development just to go fuck you and die good hearted straight man!
They think they are writing dark humor but all they do is be mean spirited.
I didn't particularly like the short. I thought it was really boring. I really only laughed at the guy's initial reaction to Loona. It's nice to see a human character reacting to how most people would when seeing one of these things in real life instead of just being dumb and/or corny. The joke does get ruined because they decide to linger on the whole death sequence way too long (which is just a problem with Helluva Boss's writing in general. Something could be initially funny but because they drag it out it ruins the comedic effect). Also I just didn't really feel anything for Loona's "character development" because I know it's not going to translate to the actual show itself, so why should I care if Loona had a nice conversation with some rando? It's not going to matter in the long scheme of things.
Eh, I don't see anyone particularly loving this joke. If HB was a properly produced show, this short would probably be a throwaway b-plot in an episode about Moxie and Millie hanging out with neo-nazi jihadist bikers.

Writing this I realized, episode 1 S1 did almost the exact same gag with the murder family. Immaculate individual(s) turns out to not be what they seem. The only other payoff you could do is that turns out the guy is just that perfect. That might have actually been a better payoff, I reckon in this case.

Speaking of early HB, the Pilot which everyone likes features them murdering and dismembering a child. It's weird how this edgy comedy turned into an outwardly serious melodrama. It's the complete opposite of what it was pitched on!
People really forget how dark this show used to be. Rewatch the pilot or any of the episodes of Season 1 when Brandon was the lead writer. There's an entire episode where IMP is encouraging an old man to commit suicide. This short wouldn't have been so out of place back in season 1. It's just really out of place now because the show has changed to be a melodrama musical where you're supposed to be on the side of the protagonists.
 
I found that weird too, almost like a payoff without the proper setup, maybe they didn't want Loona to be the one that finished off not-Mr. Rogers so they could had Blitzo do that? Because outside of that his participation in this mission felt very pointless.

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Lmao the part where he pictures himself and Stolas with the kids was so fucking retarded :story:I was kind of rooting for Blitz but now I hope that stupid faggot keeps bitching out clients for going after gays and ruins his business.

There's part of me that hopes Blitz and Stolas end up in what The Graduate was implying i.e. they sacrifice everything to be together in a flight of fancy then break up after like six months. I know it's mean-spirited but think about it: Had these two spent any amount of time actually living together? They could hate each other after a week.
 
Had these two spent any amount of time actually living together? They could hate each other after a week.
Well, Stolas is sleeping on Blitz’s couch after the trial now. Blitz made him breakfast, and he bitched about it, so that’s a real good sign.
You know what else is retarded? Stolas weeping and making those sad bird sounds when the Karen client mentions that her ex husband might’ve cheated, followed by Blitz trying to be like “W-well, cheating isn’t that bad!” Already projecting themselves onto this situation before it even happens, my god.
 
I didn't particularly like the short. I thought it was really boring. I really only laughed at the guy's initial reaction to Loona. It's nice to see a human character reacting to how most people would when seeing one of these things in real life instead of just being dumb and/or corny. The joke does get ruined because they decide to linger on the whole death sequence way too long (which is just a problem with Helluva Boss's writing in general. Something could be initially funny but because they drag it out it ruins the comedic effect). Also I just didn't really feel anything for Loona's "character development" because I know it's not going to translate to the actual show itself, so why should I care if Loona had a nice conversation with some rando? It's not going to matter in the long scheme of things.
I watched it just a little earlier today and kinda found it funny, if a bit oddly paced and stiffly animated (likely due to how once again both of these shows originally intended for squash stretch funnies shifted to standing still melodrama shit it takes a while to get into the groove of actual dynamic animation) was surprised that despite it being like that it had a form of comedy similar to the earlier episodes. Not as good, but not that bad. As you said though this isn't gonna carry over into the "actual show" so it doesn't even fucking matter.

I did find it kinda weird yet funny though how the mr. rogers reference guy was kinda drawn like the fucking dr. seuss grinch. Like specifically after he rethinks his stance on christmas and gains the a10 aryan eyes.
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He even does the grinch's little crossed hands thing.
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HE EVEN HAS FLESH COLORED GRINCH FINGERS WHAT THE FUCK
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There's nothing wrong with being a transphobe.
>"There's nothing wrong with being a transphobe."
>proceeds to shit on Mr Rogers of all people and call him a transphobe


Are you fucked in the head or something? If you felt the ABSOLUTE NEED to tack on, "nothing wrong with being a transphobe" as the last sentence to justify your argument then clearly, to you personally, you think there's something wrong with it and you're trying to keep a neutral stance on the farms for good ratings. We can all see you for what you are. Did your feelings get hurt? Are you gonna go cry to mommy and daddy that the internet hurt you?
Cope, seethe and fucking dilate more, nigger. You missed my point entirely and made up a whole different argument - Good job for being ultra retarded 👏👏👏👏👏


In the spirit of the actual thread, someone decided it best to upload HB to the Internet Archive back in 2023 and it's still being updated with the newest ep already in there.
https://archive.org/details/helluva-boss-every-episode
 
Not bad, but a wasted/pointless short, it would have been much better if the dude was living his life (being a good person), while Blitz and Loona are stalking him, until Blitz kills him at the end because rent doesn't pay it self, and then have Loona feel bad.

I still hate this shit, seriously, who thinks this looks "good".
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Altho the biggest question I have, is not-Mr. Rogers in heaven?

The "worst" he did was pocket sand Loona for reveling her Hound form, this is the issue with HB concept, you mean to tell me that Heaven doesn't know about IMP killing people in earth?

One of my friends made a good point, Hazbin should have been Charley fixing the inside problems in hell, while the Angles are targeting Imp's.

Unless your self aware, (in which Viv isn't) you can't have it where one series is about redeeming people, while the other series is about killing humans, in the same continuity, because I would also have to ask.

How the fuck does Charley not know about Blitz killing people, creating the overpopulation problem to what she want's to fix?
 
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Charley not know about Blitz killing people, creating the overpopulation problem to that she want's to fix?
Because it's in a different show. They may be in the same headworld but the continuities don't connect. Or, they shouldn't.
..Although that Amazon deal has me worried, is Blitz gonna be a massive plot point in HH now?
 
Not bad, but a wasted/pointless short, it would have been much better if the dude was living his life (being a good person), while Blitz and Loona are stalking him, until Blitz kills him at the end because rent doesn't pay it self, and then have Loona feel bad.

I still hate this shit, seriously, who thinks this looks "good".
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Altho the biggest question I have, is not-Mr. Rogers in heaven?

The "worst" he did was pocket sand Loona for reveling her Hound form, this is the issue with HB concept, you mean to tell me that Heaven doesn't know about IMP killing people in earth?

One of my friends made a good point, Hazbin should have been Charley fixing the inside problems in hell, while the Angles are targeting Imp's.

Unless your self aware, (in which Viv isn't) you can't have it where one series is about redeeming people, while the other series is about killing humans, in the same continuity, because I would also have to ask.

How the fuck does Charley not know about Blitz killing people, creating the overpopulation problem to what she want's to fix?
On some level I kinda get what they’re doing with Loona’s eye and hair. Anime tends to do it a lot for some reason or another, like prioritizing facial expressions. Sometimes it’s inoffensive, other times you wonder what the point is, which is the case here.
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I’ve also seen the argument that you can’t even blame the guy that hard for freaking out when he sees Loona’s hellhound form. Because to us she’s just some cute furbait, but in the context of this universe he just saw a girl turn into a werewolf from Hell. That would be horrifying to…most people.
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Altho the biggest question I have, is not-Mr. Rogers in heaven?
The series implies that who goes to Heaven and Hell is completely randomized since its shown not even angels know what gets someone into Heaven.

The "worst" he did was pocket sand Loona for reveling her Hound form, this is the issue with HB concept, you mean to tell me that Heaven doesn't know about IMP killing people in earth?
THEORETICALLY HEAVEN SHOULD KNOW GIVEN THE SHIT WITH THE CHERUBS AND THE HEAD SERAPHIM HAS A FUCKING OMNIPOTENT CRYSTAL BALL WHILE WORRIED ABOUT AN UPRISING YET DOESN'T SEEM WORRIED ABOUT THE FUCKING IMPS MURDERING PEOPLE

One of my friends made a good point, Hazbin should have been Charley fixing the inside problems in hell, while the Angles are targeting Imp's.

Unless your self aware, (in which Viv isn't) you can't have it where one series is about redeeming people, while the other series is about killing humans, in the same continuity, because I would also have to ask.

How the fuck does Charley not know about Blitz killing people, creating the overpopulation problem to what she want's to fix?
Thankfully Vivzie removed the problem being overpopulation and instead the head angel being an over paranoid nutjob being manipulated that there's some Hell uprising yet Charlie still thinks the problem is overpopulation despite knowing some of the truth.
 
They could have at least said who wanted the Mr Rogers/Ned Flanders mashup character killed. That might've made it fun.
This is all we got on the client, which again really worsens when you make Helluva Boss into a genuine drama and have it be set in the same universe where angels are genuinely worried about a demonic uprising.

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The ending felt very Whedon-esque to me. For all the glurge-y melodrama in Vivzie's writing, she hardly ever (if ever) undercuts the emotion of a scene with a joke like this. I admit that I just finished watching HB, so I'll eat crow if I'm forgetting something.
I get the feeling a lot of people didn't like the ending. But Vivziepop fans are hiding behind the usual "Well what do you expect they're demons" excuse that always seems to become irrelevant when it's back to "Aww look how sad Blitzo is"
 
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