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Should be a wild four years.

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He's starting to sound like a Democrat.


Then when we find it's replacements and there's still no arrests and nothing done about it they'll keep saying this lie and cope. "Well we shouldn't be concerned with this pedophile island, we should be looking to shut these other ones down, arresting the people guilty on this island won't shut down the whole industry so what's the point?" And then this will eventually turn into "Ya know what? He actually did nothing wrong and he's totally innocent. Any wrongdoings you think he committed is just your imagination, silly goy."

It's all so tiresome
This shit isn't even because of the reasons you're saying. It is literally that the pedophiles have paid enough money to the right people to be inoculated. Epstein got sent to prison as a stay of execution for fucking up.
 
Oy Vey, Oy Vey
Anuddah Holocaust Today!
Grok got castrated
Hoo-ray, hoo-ray!

Oy Vey, Oy Vey
Da Shoah (yeah! whoa! hey!)
Trump is sweeping for Epstein
Oy Vey, Oy Vey

"Oy Vey, Goyim! Are you still, like, talking about Epstein? Wow, you're desecrating Texas by talking about Epstein. Next question."

TRUMP IS ACTING GUILTY! TRUMP IS ACTING GUILTY! TRUMP IS ACTING GUILTY!

IT'S ANUDDAH SHOAH IF YOU POINT OUT THAT ZION DON IS SWEEPING, JANNY-LIKE, AT THE MENTION OF EPSTEIN'S NAME!
 
Because they are Orthodox, Catholic or Oriental and the US Christian political power is Protestant. And of that a large amount are also left wing.
The Catholic church is the country's largest single church. It constitutes 23% of the US population. Protestant churches are a grab-bag of various denominations.
 
Also, friendly reminder that like 60 days after Epstein "died" a mysterious once in a century virus began to spread in Wuhan that shut the entire world down and everyone kind of forgot about Epstein in the mainstream until a few months ago.

People here might get this but in Sept 2019 the repo market, a significant financial backbone of the global economy, melted down in the middle of the night. We're talking levels of global depression you can't imagine. 2007 crash times 1000. Covid was announced within a week or so after.
 
160 people dead so far from the floods in Texas.

This considerable loss of life is going to be blamed on a multitude of people, but I think there's a force nobody wants to acknowledge, meteorologists. Already lawmakers are blaming failures of weather predictions. And the narrative is being shifted to the political, Doge, the cuts, etc.

While that may be the case, it be a mistake to take the scientists word for it. In many cases, these cuts aren't effective till next year. Many of these institutions have issues with over staffing. Much of the funding is very localized, and immune from federal cuts. And there's a clear problem with DEI, like all organizations right now.

But there has been a decades long insidious ideological decay in academia, especially in climate science. The climate hoax has created a class of meteorologists that are very ideologically radicalized to anyone on the right. Now they are never going to outright sharpen their picket signs. But they may sabotage, they may try to feign some type of academic neutrality with their credentials.

But there is the dark thought that they alone have the ability to sound the alarm for weather events. And some might look at a weather front going into an isolated christian community and think "Payback Time".
Like watching a plane on a radar screen collide into another for some form of sick revenge.
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But there has been a decades long insidious ideological decay in academia, especially in climate science. The climate hoax has created a class of meteorologists that are very ideologically radicalized to anyone on the right. Now they are never going to outright sharpen their picket signs. But they may sabotage, they may try to feign some type of academic neutrality with their credentials.
The Weather Channel is literally the scummiest, tabloid-tier, activist slop on American television and they do it proudly and with righteous fervor.

You are over the target.
 
“Hey, we’re going to have to announce this to the public in the next few hours, but let’s leak it on /pol/ first to confuse provenance.

The only thing missing is why they would need to confuse provenance.
If you can explain that motive, that theory might stop looking like the paranoid rantings of a defective mind.

Good question. It is a well known intelligence technique, with numerous examples from history and manuals. It's been used for a very long time, so it's hard to know where to even point you. It's classic af.

Even the Wikipedia page for COINTELPRO cites it, related to smearing and confusing provenance (obv). Planting false stories as a means to manipulate people is like legit standard operating procedure. There are many benefits to making it anon specifically (targets are unable to verify its authenticity, an air of insider knowledge, etc).

Many of the tactics used in COINTELPRO are alleged to have seen continued use, including discrediting targets through psychological warfare; smearing individuals and groups using forged documents and by planting false reports in the media;

Edit: adding one more quote related to anon documents during COINTELPRO.

Psychological warfare: The FBI and police used a myriad of "dirty tricks" to undermine movements. They planted false media stories and published bogus leaflets and other publications in the name of targeted groups. They forged correspondence, sent anonymous letters, and made anonymous telephone calls. They spread misinformation about meetings and events, set up pseudo movement groups run by government agents, and manipulated or strong-armed parents, employers, landlords, school officials, and others to cause trouble for activists. They used bad-jacketing to create suspicion about targeted activists, sometimes with lethal consequences.[74]
 
pleh, one thing I forgot to add is that if they're criminals then they're autodeported and if they do some shit after they get citizenship then they're gone too
Coming here illegally is a crime. Therefore as soon as they arrive here they are criminals to be auto deported.

Apologies if I am restarting an old argument, rate me late if so.
 
It is a well known intelligence technique, with numerous examples from history and manuals. It's blah blah blah
The question remains: WHY would they need to ‘confuse the provenance’ in this specific case?
What possible benefit would be gained from confusing the provenance of information they were a couple of hours from releasing anyway?
 
Don't forget that the Mega-Cities that were announced had their biggest location in Gaza. One question that was brought up was "How will you build a mega-city in Gaza?" I guess that question is sorted.
Not really, the Gazans are still so retarded that a Mega-City in Gaza would be barely distinguishable from a Mega-City in India.

It would just be random Goats walking around instead of Cows.
 
Nah this is better than a new crop of people being disappointed in Epstein file releases or lack thereof.
I'm glad I skipped the last 200 pages.

Stephen Miller finally gets his revenge on L.A.
Los Angeles Times (archive.ph)
By Julia Wick
2025-07-09 12:04:52GMT
On a palm tree-lined bluff overlooking the Pacific Ocean, thousands of people rallied against the Trump administration in one of many “No Kings Day” protests around the country last month.

Here in Santa Monica, the well-heeled and beachy protesters also had a localized message: America, we’re sorry.

“Santa Monica apologies for Stephen Miller,” a bearded man in a straw hat proclaimed via hand-scrawled poster board.

“Stephen Miller, who raised you?” another protester inquired in purple puff paint. Others paired the White House deputy chief of staff’s name with expletives.

Amid the false accusations and acrid clashes of President Trump’s inner circle, few acolytes have survived longer than Miller.

The 39-year-old has remained essential through Trump’s second term, piloting an immigration platform that has sowed fear across wide swaths of the country — nowhere more so than greater Los Angeles, where federal agents have mounted a relentless assault on immigrants, sweeping up thousands in deportation raids.

In the long shadow of his policies, local and national observers alike are paying renewed attention to Miller’s upbringing in the famously liberal enclave once dubbed “the People’s Republic of Santa Monica.”

“I think people are sad that the words ‘Santa Monica’ and ‘Stephen Miller’ are synonymous, because no one wants that connection,” said Santa Monica Mayor Lana Negrete.

How did the same 8.3-square-mile city that helped pioneer curbside recycling and strict rent control laws produce a man responsible for Trump’s most draconian policies?

Some are also questioning whether the administration’s focus on Los Angeles is a form of revenge on Miller’s spurned hometown.

When rumors of ICE agents seizing nannies at a Santa Monica park frantically flashed across social networks, Justin Gordon, who went to Hebrew school and high school with Miller, immediately thought his classmate must have personally directed the raid on their local park.

The reports proved spurious, but Gordon still saw an emotional truth.

“In the back of my mind, I’ve always thought, ‘This is Stephen Miller getting back at the city of Los Angeles,’ ” Gordon said.



In the eight years since Miller rose to fame and became an outsized antagonist on the American left, his Santa Monica villain origin story has been exhaustively documented, picked over and reanalyzed.

At the far edge of the American west, a brash adolescent came of age in a coastal community where the establishment prided itself on being antiestablishment. What choice would a young reactionary iconoclast have but to veer right?

Santa Monica was a town in flux when Miller was in high school at the turn of the millennium: a Berkeley meets Beverly Hills where haughty affluence was rapidly eclipsing the Birkenstocks and counterculture bumper stickers. It was also a tale of two cities, with moguls and the upper middle class north of Montana, and pockets of poverty and gang violence in the southern end of town.

Nowhere was this more evident than at Santa Monica High School, where the academics were nationally renowned, the student body resembled a United Colors of Benetton ad and a ’90s strain of “Free to Be ... You and Me” liberalism reigned supreme.

The parade of cultural affinity clubs, diversity events and policies that sought to make the school more equitable nauseated Miller.

And the teenage provocateur made no secret of that revulsion, loudly belittling his fellow students. His bitter shtick offered a prescient preview of the grievance politics that would fuel his future boss into power.

Miller has said his years in high school were the hardest of his life, filled with pushback for his “vitriolic viewpoints,” according to Jean Guerrero, a former Times columnist and author of the 2020 Miller biography “Hatemonger.”

“And for whatever reason, he’s had this grievance about that ever since, and he’s been trying through various means, to have what I see as a form of revenge on the communities that rejected him in Los Angeles,” Guerrero said.

Through the White House, Miller did not respond to a request for comment. But anecdotes of Miller’s trollish high school antics have been exhaustively chronicled in the media.

There was the fight to restore the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance on his bleeding heart campus. His frequent railing against “rampant political correctness,” multiculturalism and the perceived failings of his Latino classmates. Allegedly dumping his middle school best friend for being Latino.

Perhaps most infamous is a campaign speech, seared into the brains of thousands of Samohi classmates, in which he seemingly absolved students of their responsibility to clean up after themselves.

“I will say and I will do things that no one else in their right mind would say or do,” Miller told the crowd, according to a video obtained by Univision. “Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up our trash when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?”

Students jeered and booed as Miller was escorted off the stage, according to several attendees. He lost that student government election.

“The only compliment I think I’ve ever come up with for Stephen is that there are plenty of conservatives and far-right wing conspiracy theorists and hate mongers that spout what he spouted from behind a computer screen. I have not in my life before or after seen someone do it in an amphitheater full of their high school colleagues,” said Miller’s classmate Kesha Ram Hinsdale, now majority leader of the Vermont state Senate.

Santa Monica High was a hothouse of political engagement, where students — the children of entertainment executives, bankers and lawyers, as well as nannies, day laborers and wait staff — were finding their footing as activists.

They had watched Proposition 187 pass in their early childhoods, stoking divisions and energizing a wave of Latino activists. (The 1994 ballot measure, which aimed to block undocumented immigrants from accessing public education and other state services, was ultimately blocked by the courts.)

They marched with labor leader Dolores Huerta in support of workers at a neighborhood hotel and protested against the growing threat of war in Iraq.

Despite the kumbaya vibes, Santa Monica High was hardly a post-racial utopia. Students often self-segregated, and the school’s academic sheen was riven by racial division.

Puckish, clad in a suit and preternaturally confident, a teenage Miller was a regular presence at school board meetings. He argued for an English-only school district, decried the board’s focus on equity and generally sought to puncture progressive ideals and push buttons.

“We all knew who he was, and knew him by name,” said Rep. Julia Brownley (D-Westlake Village), a Santa Monica-Malibu school board member from 1994 to 2006.

Miller was raised by Jewish Democrats several generations removed from their own asylum-seeking immigrant story. He enjoyed a comfortable childhood north of Montana, until the family real estate company faltered in the early ’90s and the Millers eventually relocated to a smaller rental on Santa Monica’s shabbier southern end.

Reactionary conservatism didn’t become a defining aspect of Miller’s persona until he started high school, according to Jason Islas, one of his best friends in middle school.

The friendship dissolved the summer before they started at Samohi when, in Islas’ telling, Miller called and announced that they would no longer be hanging out.

Miller delivered the news brusquely, citing Islas’ lack of confidence, his teenage acne and his Latino heritage in a “businesslike tone.”

“It was pretty cruel, even for a teenager,” Islas recalled.

Through a spokesperson, Miller denied this account in 2017. But his derision toward Latino classmates is well-documented — in his own words.

“There are usually very few, if any, Hispanic students in my honors classes, despite the large number of Hispanic students that attend our school,” a 16-year-old Miller wrote in a 2002 letter to a local paper.

The letter denounced the fact that school announcements were made in English and Spanish, “preventing Spanish speakers from standing on their own” and making “a mockery of the American ideal of personal accomplishment.”

Captivated by right-wing radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Larry Elder, Miller was a frequent guest on Elder’s show as a teenager, complaining about other perceived liberal excesses of his high school.

After graduating in 2003, Miller went to Duke University before landing on Capitol Hill, where he threaded his way up the far-right thicket with then-Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota and then-Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama.

Many of his grievance-fueled Samohi talking points found their way into the first Trump campaign, where Miller had a mind-meld of sorts with the future leader of the free world.

In Trump’s second term, Miller has moved faster and gone further than during the first term, when he advocated unsuccessfully for using the military to push immigration enforcement. This time around, the administration has deployed troops to an American city in a staggering show of force, with masked agents raiding businesses and public spaces.

Ari Rosmarin, a civil rights lawyer who also attended Santa Monica High, said Miller has always had a keen eye for picking fights that would generate maximum hate, outrage and attention. It’s the through line connecting his youthful theatrics with the current assault on Los Angeles, Rosmarin said.

“He knows L.A. — knows that it’s home to both a super, super diverse and beautiful immigrant community, but also home to tons of media, cultural capital, financial capital,” Rosmarin said. “I think in those ways, it’s a particularly attractive site for a battle if your goal is not just a policy outcome, but a political and cultural attack.”
 
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