Sam Hyde

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Sam is never, ever making it on Rogan
Toe Rogaine and his gaggle of faggots are the epitome of “safe edgy”. The Overton Window has a long way to go before Sam’s edginess becomes safe. I always assumed Sam knew that, but maybe not anymore. The best thing Sam could do IMO is focus on executing his independent projects as well as possible to build off the audience he has, rather than pawing at doors that are closed to people like him in hopes of going on Rogan or being Rogan.
 
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This is my armchair take on the whole thing.
Same Hyde made the critical mistake of confusing someone's bit with their actual self. Maybe this is because he's having this actual problem himself.
My theory about this whole thing is that Hyde thought he'd show up on the podcast of some washed, hacky, irrelevant comedian and dunk on him. This could be funny, but you'd have to pick someone who both lacks self-awareness and actually kinda deserves it (either personally or symbolically.) You'd want to pick someone hacky but not too obvious either. Like rather than clowning on Jeff Foxworthy you might want to pick Bill Engvall instead. Sam's done this kind of thing before with varying degrees of success.
The problem with selecting Harland Williams as a target is that he's only pretending to be a dumb guy. Often times the guys who play the dumb character are the smartest ones in the room. Hyde also seemed to think that just because Williams doesn't say "faggot" all the time that he'd be easily frazzled by offensive speech, again not knowing that a lot of the PG/PG-13 comedians of the 90's still had fucked up senses of humor. Williams has been in the biz for a very long time, and talking about jews, flipping over a table, or trying to bigman him aren't going to phase him.
Williams used his natural obliqueness to his advantage and parried Hyde effortlessly. Hyde usually wins these exchanges by gaining control of the initial conditions of the encounter and maintaining them throughout the exchange. Here, he couldn't do that, his ego cracked, and he had a gorilla-out.

If you come at a master, you better not miss.
I mean even on kiwifarms where we have the penultimate freedom granted to us by dear leader to say nigger and talk about Jews almost everyone is tired to death about hearing about Jews and it's usually a signifier of a shit poster or thread (unless it's actually relevant)

When it comes to saying nigger on the other hand, it still remains a high novelty thing and brings me and everyone else an intense sense of joy, satisfaction and I think some would even argue a deep purpose in life. Nigger.

NIGGER
 
Sam has created a hugbox of an echo chamber in his professional and probably also his personal life where he is never challenged by anyone on his behavior or ideas. Nick is the closest thing he has to a peer and even he demures every single time sam interrupts or disagrees with him on PGL. He occasionally has mainstream comics on PGL, but thats the extent of his interactions with people who aren't essentially just his paid minions.

I think that the trend of having every comedic entertainer become a podcaster/public intellectual is totally incompatible with making great content and being funny. You just turn into a glorified talk show how interviewing all the usual suspects in your specific "sector" and then going on their dumb shows to have the same conversation again.

Sam doesn't seem to be able to even become a podcaster because he is totally incapable of having a conversation in which he is not in total control, talking about anything that isn't on his approved list of subjects, or even being able to fake an interest in anyone other than himself.

If he cares about making good art he should just stop streaming stop pgl, and just release stuff when he has made something he thinks is good.
 
I heard sam did a bunch of shit to him like report Charles to the IRS. Can't remember where.
To me, if someone was that unbelievably shitty to me I would say everything I know about Marky in a heartbeat. Not saying the Marky thing is fake, its just all very strange.

The IRS stuff was a rumor based on some stuff Charls said about the Thot Audit thing from back in the day, he said so himself on a stream back when they got back together
 
Sam has created a hugbox of an echo chamber in his professional and probably also his personal life where he is never challenged by anyone on his behavior or ideas. Nick is the closest thing he has to a peer and even he demures every single time sam interrupts or disagrees with him on PGL. He occasionally has mainstream comics on PGL, but thats the extent of his interactions with people who aren't essentially just his paid minions.

I think that the trend of having every comedic entertainer become a podcaster/public intellectual is totally incompatible with making great content and being funny. You just turn into a glorified talk show how interviewing all the usual suspects in your specific "sector" and then going on their dumb shows to have the same conversation again.

Sam doesn't seem to be able to even become a podcaster because he is totally incapable of having a conversation in which he is not in total control, talking about anything that isn't on his approved list of subjects, or even being able to fake an interest in anyone other than himself.

If he cares about making good art he should just stop streaming stop pgl, and just release stuff when he has made something he thinks is good.
What kind of sucks is that the modern world means the best of the best have to be a 24/7 shitty fucking marketing/sell out machine to even carve out a decent living.

It wasn't too long ago that even a semi-decent musician would be crowded in pussy and bags of money but the money is far harder to get nowadays.

I don't personally buy the whole "Sam Hyde is super rich" angle to things and I think he is still trying to carve out a financially sustainable niche which is certainly easier said than done.
 
Funniest thing to me is seeing retards like this seemingly unravel over it.

Like this “Reasonable Man” account is a full blown autist. Sam is a clown, Harland is a clown. It’s not such a big thing.
These retards are in the thread seething too.

What matters at the end of the day is consensus. And it seems like a 90/10 split that Sam got his shit pushed in by a veteran comedian.

The only people arguing otherwise are Sam nut huggers. I look at this as a litmus test for these fans if they can still see their glorious leader with objectivity. It’s crazy how the manosphere stuff Sam pivoted to is working on these people. He even admitted as early as Hydewars it’s intended to be a grift.
 
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It looks so fucking comfy bros.
 
I don't see how so many people are missing this. Sam chimped out and shouldn't have, absolutely, but there's no question that Harland was intentionally trying to piss him off through out the podcast. And, no, it's not the same as his handling of other guests. "You look like you got raped" isn't some kind of dry humor or quirky "tee hee, I said a sexual thing!" comment. It's literally just "You're a faggot" ever so slightly dressed up.

Never in the history of the word has "You look like a bitch who gets raped" been a playful dig that is intended to solicit some kind of playful retort in response. There's nothing even to work with there. It's not like "I noticed you have a pink shirt on, so you must be gay" where there's some actual observation or medium for a reply such as picking out something Harland was wearing and making a similar insult based on that.

It's just blatant shit talking with a veneer of 'comedy' because it's a 'comedy' podcast. So, if you get upset with it, you're going to get told you can't take a joke or you're thinned skinned, even though there's no joke there. So, Sam initially just said "Thank you" which I think is a good dismissal of the it. But, it's obviously irritated him enough that when we get to the "You're a retarded chimp, go dance for me" part, he loses his cool.
but was sam raped? that is the real question
 
I mean even on kiwifarms where we have the penultimate freedom granted to us by dear leader to say nigger and talk about Jews almost everyone is tired to death about hearing about Jews and it's usually a signifier of a shit poster or thread (unless it's actually relevant)
Penultimate means second to last, you illiterate nigger.
 
Sam thinks Norm and Patrice are some of the best comics ever. Sam also got fucking felted by Harland doing a tamer version of his own bit.

Sam thought he could big league the touring comic with over 20 years of experience who's undoubtedly handled hundreds of Sam Hydes in the audience and in other comedians, and who also beat stomach cancer.
There's literally nothing Sam could do to rile Harland. Instead of just rolling with the punches he got insecure that he wasn't in control of the situation.

The fuck would Sam do if Patrice's fat ass started ripping him a new asshole just for breathing? How would he handle Norm talking circles around him and making him the butt of every single joke without him even picking up on it?
Sam isn't as smart, clever, or as thick skinned as he likes to pretend. If he's not fucking with midwits who get uncomfortable over naughty words said by a guy over 5'10, or he isn't in front of a crowd of his fans, he crumbles.

And that's fine. He just needs to stay in his fuckin lane. It's supposedly worked out great for this long, why fix what ain't broke?
 
And that's fine. He just needs to stay in his fuckin lane. It's supposedly worked out great for this long, why fix what ain't broke?
I guess ego? The whole point was to get on Rogan at some point I suppose.

And I agree with your post. I guess it's also weird he shows up with an entire posse of people which doesn't include Jeet Neptune for some reason? I can understand Nick being there.

Is his TRT/testosterone treatment shit really just making him that aggro? He looked like he did all of the shit in a fairly stable way.
 
It's just blatant shit talking with a veneer of 'comedy' because it's a 'comedy' podcast. So, if you get upset with it, you're going to get told you can't take a joke or you're thinned skinned, even though there's no joke there.

Exactly. It's this unwinnable catch-22 situation. People in this thread are acting retarded about this, and I think there are two reasons for it. Number one, some of them just rabidly hate Sam and are looking for reasons to shit on him - okay, fine, I get that. Number two is a lot more frustrating, and it's the fact that people are, as a rule, too stupid and spineless to understand what's actually going on here. You need a minimum level of intelligence and a functioning set of nuts to understand what Harland is doing and appreciate that his wormy little jew bullshit is not comedy, and it's not even intended to be comedy. Wormtongue-type people like Harland thrive on average people being too dumb and weak to see them for what they are.

The more honest people in the thread have at least called it "trolling," but there's clearly something more going on beneath the obvious. Harland absolutely despises Sam, I assume for political reasons. He hides behind this aw-gee-shucks-I'm-such-a-silly-billy persona, but there is a seething, sneering hatred motivating everything that he's doing here. Sam, being a TRT'd up noticer, instantly saw it for what it was, got furious, and decided to check the fuck out of the situation in the most legally-permissibly violent way possible. Was that a smart move? Probably not. The smart move would be to have not attended this dude's show. But I still don't get this thing where we're supposed to pretend that Sam was just roid raging out of nowhere and for no reason. Again, this is how people like Harland thrive - plausible deniability, gaslighting, and people being too stupid to understand the situation.

I'm also struck by how many people seem committed to pretending that Harland is funny, even outside of this ambush thing he ran against Sam. It's just random nonsense combined with weird gay mouth-and-eye movements. He might as well say "okay, laugh now! This is your cue! Laugh now!" In this thread I've seen comparisons to Tom Green, and that anybody who doesn't get it must be a zoomer. I am a millennial, and I can tell you that people like Tom Green have never been funny. Go back and watch shit like "The Bum Bum Song" and try not to cringe (challenge). Then I see comparisons of those two to one of the funniest guys ever (Norm MacDonald) and I'm just baffled.
 
Exactly. It's this unwinnable catch-22 situation. People in this thread are acting retarded about this, and I think there are two reasons for it. Number one, some of them just rabidly hate Sam and are looking for reasons to shit on him - okay, fine, I get that. Number two is a lot more frustrating, and it's the fact that people are, as a rule, too stupid and spineless to understand what's actually going on here. You need a minimum level of intelligence and a functioning set of nuts to understand what Harland is doing and appreciate that his wormy little jew bullshit is not comedy, and it's not even intended to be comedy. Wormtongue-type people like Harland thrive on average people being too dumb and weak to see them for what they are.
How is it not comedy? This is all professional comedy is, for the most part. Why are we acting like Sam doesn't do the exact same humiliation ritual to his lessers?
 
How is it not comedy?
Because it's not funny and I don't think it's even meant to be funny. It's just sneering politically-motivated derision with a thin coat of paint. People are stupid as fuck and all they see is the paint. In some cases, people know what it is, but they go along with the gaslighting anyway because they want to feel like they're the ones doing it.
Why are we acting like Sam doesn't do the exact same humiliation ritual to his lessers?
Sam absolutely bullies people, I don't think anybody is suggesting otherwise. But "exact same"? No way. You really can't see the difference between the two things? The styles, the overall honesty and masculinity of the thing, etc? Does one not seem quite a bit more like throwing your rock and hiding your hand, perhaps?
 
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